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35 Experiment/Observation Common Characterisitcs (Mildly Provocative)

36 Richard P Mount View from Experiment/Observation Driven Science 36 Experiment/Observation Common Characteristics Dominated by large, expensive devices and projects Correct project planning includes data- management hardware and software development –Not acceptable to build a $1Billion device and then face a Data-Management crisis –Development might be much more valuable if performed in a wider context Often hundreds or thousands of users Geographically distributed users

37 Richard P Mount View from Experiment/Observation Driven Science 37 Consequences of Common Characteristics Less worry about workflow management – part of the project from the start Multi-user concerns: –Keeping track of millions of data products (files?) created by people you barely know –Performance issues due to many concurrent queries –Data movement, grids and networks really matter to international collaborations Visualization can be a useful tool but rarely a major issue Responsiveness is a key issue –Taking months or years to answer a simple question is almost deadly

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39 Richard P Mount View from Experiment/Observation Driven Science 39 Characterizing Scientific Data My petabyte is harder to analyze than your petabyte –Images (or meshes) are bulky but simply structured and usually have simple access patterns –Features are perhaps 1000 times less bulky, but often have complex structures and hard-to-predict access patterns

40 Richard P Mount View from Experiment/Observation Driven Science 40 Hydrogen Bubble Chamber Photograph 1970 CERN Photo

41 Richard P Mount View from Experiment/Observation Driven Science 41 Storage Issues Disks: –Random access performance is lousy, unless objects are megabytes or more independent of cost deteriorating with time at the rate at which disk capacity increases (Define random-access performance as time taken to randomly access entire contents of a disk)

42 Richard P Mount View from Experiment/Observation Driven Science 42 Latency and Speed – Random Access

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