Presentation is loading. Please wait.

Presentation is loading. Please wait.

© AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Flight Operations Web Conference – 05 May 2009 RTOW charts, Frequently Asked.

Similar presentations


Presentation on theme: "© AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Flight Operations Web Conference – 05 May 2009 RTOW charts, Frequently Asked."— Presentation transcript:

1 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Flight Operations Web Conference – 05 May 2009 RTOW charts, Frequently Asked Questions

2 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Flight Operations Web Conference NEW concept Flight Operations topic presented during 20 minutes Questions may be asked in real time Answers to some selected questions will be given after the presentation (please stay on line after the end of presentation) This type of Web Conference will be organized on a regular basis

3 Thierry PAYA-ARNAUD Performance Training manager Presented by: RTOW charts, Frequently Asked Questions

4 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts - Content Minimum speeds Acceleration altitudes V1 evolution Speeds checks Limitation Codes Flex corrections T MAX, T FLEXMAX

5 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts - Min Speeds VMC, VMU…

6 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. What is the meaning of the grey bar ? FAQ about takeoff charts - Min Speeds

7 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. A grey bar indicates that a takeoff speed is close to a VMC limitation. This limitation can be :  V1 limited by VMCG  V2 limited by VMCA This indication is given so that the pilot pays particular attention to the aircraft control at these low speeds. FAQ about takeoff charts - Min Speeds What is the meaning of the grey bar ?

8 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. How come V1 can be lower than the minimum V1 given at the bottom of the chart ? FAQ about takeoff charts - Min Speeds

9 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Minimum V1 given at the bottom of the chart is calculated by adding  the maximum VMCG on the global set of points (Complete chart) +  the maximum (V1-V EF ) (Complete chart) For a given point, V1 can be less than this minimum value if (V EF = VMCG) and (V1- V EF ) is less than max (V1 - V EF ) FAQ about takeoff charts - Min Speeds How come V1 can be lower than the minimum V1 given at the bottom of the chart ?

10 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts - Acceleration altitudes

11 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Why are there stars in place of the min and max acceleration altitudes ? FAQ about takeoff charts – Acceleration altitudes

12 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Minimum acceleration altitude is calculated as the MAXIMUM of the ‘min acc. Altitude’ values on the global set of points Maximum acceleration altitude is calculated as the MINIMUM of the ‘max acc. Altitude’ values on the global set of points It may then happen that the min acc. altitude is higher than the max acc. altitude : in this case, stars are displayed in the chart and the min and max acc. altitude values must be read in a specific chart. FAQ about takeoff charts – Acceleration altitudes Why are there stars in place of the min and max acceleration altitudes ?

13 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – Acceleration altitudes

14 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts - V1 evolution

15 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. How come V1 can increase while the weight decreases ? FAQ about takeoff charts - V1 evolution

16 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. In this example, we are Obstacle and Brake energy limited. To reduce TOD, it may be interesting to increase V1 but V1 is limited by Max Brake Energy speed The brake energy limitation depends on weight and the thrust When OAT increases, the Weight decreases and the thrust decreases When OAT increases, Max V1 limited by Max brake energy speed increases. FAQ about takeoff charts - V1 evolution How come V1 can increase while the weight decreases ?

17 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – Speeds checks

18 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. When applying influence corrections, do I have to check the speeds against the minimum values given at the bottom of the chart ? FAQ about takeoff charts – Speeds checks

19 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Yes, when  More than one correction is applied If no correction or only one correction is applied, the speeds are OK. No speed Check against ‘min speeds’. FAQ about takeoff charts – Speeds checks When applying influence corrections, do I have to check the speeds against the minimum values given at the bottom of the chart ?

20 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – Limitation Codes V1 V2

21 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. On a weight chart, can I interpolate between 2 weights with different limitation codes ? FAQ about takeoff charts – Limitation Codes

22 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Yes, because  the automatic temperature chart used to build the weight chart is accurate enough (slight trend below Tref, step of 2°C above Tref) FAQ about takeoff charts – Limitation Codes On a weight chart, can I interpolate between 2 weights with different limitation codes ?

23 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – Flex corrections

24 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. When applying corrections on TFlex for QNH or bleeds, why isn’t there a correction on the speeds ? FAQ about takeoff charts – Flex corrections

25 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. The speeds are directly linked to the takeoff weight for a given runway length and braking capability of the aircraft In case of QNH or bleed correction, the only affected item is the engine thrust FAQ about takeoff charts – Flex corrections When applying corrections on TFlex for QNH or bleeds, why isn’t there a correction on the speeds ?

26 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Actual TOW Needed Thrust Flat rated Thrust WeightThrust EGT Limit OAT Bleeds correction Flex Temp full Thrust ΔTFlex Temp correction FAQ about takeoff charts – Flex corrections When applying corrections on TFlex for QNH or bleeds, why isn’t there a correction on the speeds ? Flex Temp Bleeds ON

27 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. The flex temperature correction is calculated so that the thrust after TFlex and Bleeds correction is equal to the thrust needed without bleeds. As the aircraft braking capability is not degraded, the speeds don’t need to be modified. FAQ about takeoff charts – Flex corrections When applying corrections on TFlex for QNH or bleeds, why isn’t there a correction on the speeds ?

28 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – T MAX, T FLEXMAX Why do I have temperatures above the TMAX indicated on the bottom of the chart ?

29 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. 54 FAQ about takeoff charts – T MAX, T FLEXMAX TMax is the MAX certified OAT For dispatch The RTOW chart is used for MTOW determination and for FLEX computation The range of temperature covers OAT up to TMax AND temperature Above Tmax, Up to TflexMAX Why do I have temperatures above the TMAX indicated on the bottom of the chart ? Last value of OAT for Dispatch Temperature for Flex only

30 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – T MAX, T FLEXMAX I received new charts for a new aircraft. Why is the max temperature displayed on the chart much higher than before

31 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. FAQ about takeoff charts – T MAX, T FLEXMAX To improve customers operations, The maximum Thrust reduction has been increased This is available as ‘Extended Flex’ option On this example, the TFlexMax is increased from ISA + 43°C to ISA + 72°C The new charts computed for aircraft equipped with Extended flex option will provide temperature much higher than before I received new charts for a new aircraft. Why is the max temperature displayed on the chart much higher than before

32 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Questions Questions?

33 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Questions Question: For the same conditions, if there is the same TOW for CONF 2 and CONF 3, which one is more favorable? Answer: According to FCOM, use the configuration that gives the highest flex. If both of them provide the same level of flex thrust or if you cannot flex, use the one with the highest flaps setting. This may change in specific conditions. Please refer to FCOM P2.

34 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Questions Question: I understand that when the code changes between 2 boxes, one can interpolate between the take off weights. But can we also interpolate for the speeds, which at times change dramatically? Answer: Yes. Interpolation shall be done for all parameters (weight and speeds).

35 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Questions Question: Sometimes, ATC requires the aircraft to enter the runway using alternate runway entrance. The take off runway distance available is then reduced. And the crew needs to update the take off speeds accordingly. How can we handle this? Answer: There is no simple way to handle that with paper RTOW charts. A specific chart may be used for a very often used taxiway, but that increases the number of charts. The use of LPC (software on board) allows this type of computation.

36 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Questions Question: I've checked the landing distance performance of our A using the FOVE landing module. The difference between normal landings distance vs. abnormal, especially on contaminated runways seem to be negligible. Answer: The impact of failure during the flight depends on the failure case. This impact is given in the QRH with failure coefficients. Some of them are low (1.1 or 1.2) because the failure only requires higher speed and has no effect on braking capability of the aircraft. In any case, keep in mind that the distances given by the QRH or the LPC are reference landing distances and that the crew shall retain a runway with sufficient margins.

37 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Questions Question: Similar for takeoff, how do you calculate MIN ACC ALT and MAX ACC ALT for go-around with Engine Out? Answer: There is no MIN ACC ALT or MAX ACC ALT definition for go-around. What has to be checked in case of a go-around is that the aircraft remains above the plane (i.e. surface) defined by the missed approach gradient. You can refer to the presentation held in Paris Conference this year for more details on go-around procedure check.

38 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Question: Why has the Bleed corrections to Flex increased a lot recently? Answer: The Anti-ice corrections increase is linked to an Octopus change. You can refer to PEP 4.4 reasons for change. The principle of anti-ice corrections on takeoff charts have been modified: the reduced temperatures list (below 10°C OAT) is used only to determine weight and speed corrections, the complete temperatures list is used for flex temp correction. The same principle is used in the FCOM. As a consequence, Flex corrections for anti-ice may have been updated in the FCOM and takeoff charts corrections must be recomputed. Questions

39 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Question: With TmaxFlex of ISA+75, for sure you would go below 25% max legal thrust reduction? Can you explain? Answer: Airbus re discussed this 25% max reduction and obtained a new certification from authorities for this modification. Keep in mind that it was already possible for other manufacturer to go beyond 25% using Flex on Derate. Questions

40 © AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Question: Can you please discuss Airbus philosophy for operations with the A320 on runways with a width less than 45 meters? Answer: Operating on a runway with a width lower than 45 m implies an increase in VMCG to be able to control the aircraft inside the limits of the runway as described in the regulation. This VMCG increment is automatically taken into by the software provided the runway width has been correctly entered. Questions

41 Proprietary document. By taking delivery of this Presentation (hereafter “Presentation”), you accept on behalf of your company to comply with the following. No other property rights are granted by the delivery of this Presentation than the right to read it, for the sole purpose of information. This Presentation, its content, illustrations and photos shall not be modified nor reproduced without prior written consent of Airbus S.A.S. This Presentation and the materials it contains shall not, in whole or in part, be sold, rented, or licensed to any third party subject to payment or not. This Presentation may contain market-sensitive or other information that is correct at the time of going to press. This information involves a number of factors which could change over time, affecting the true public representation. Airbus assumes no obligation to update any information contained in this document or with respect to the information described herein. The statements made herein do not constitute an offer or form part of any contract. They are based on Airbus information and are expressed in good faith but no warranty or representation is given as to their accuracy. When additional information is required, Airbus S.A.S can be contacted to provide further details. Airbus S.A.S shall assume no liability for any damage in connection with the use of this Presentation and the materials it contains, even if Airbus S.A.S has been advised of the likelihood of such damages. This licence is governed by French law and exclusive jurisdiction is given to the courts and tribunals of Toulouse (France) without prejudice to the right of Airbus to bring proceedings for infringement of copyright or any other intellectual property right in any other court of competent jurisdiction.


Download ppt "© AIRBUS S.A.S. All rights reserved. Confidential and proprietary document. Flight Operations Web Conference – 05 May 2009 RTOW charts, Frequently Asked."

Similar presentations


Ads by Google