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1 Conflict of Laws Michael Green 221-7746 Office: 260 office hours: TTh 11:30-12:45 or by appt.

2 Personal jurisdiction Choice of law Recognition of foreign judgments

3 An Oregonian goes to California, where a Californian punches him. He returns to Oregon and sues the Californian in Oregon state court. 1) Does the court have power over the Californian? 2) What law should the court use? 3) If it issues a judgment for the Oregonian, must a California court recognize it?

4 Personal jurisdiction Choice of law Recognition of foreign judgments Constitutional Sub-constitutional

5 Prosser: “The realm of the conflict of laws is a dismal swamp, filled with quaking quagmires, and inhabited by learned but eccentric professors who theorize about mysterious matters in a strange and incomprehensible jargon. The ordinary court, or lawyer, is quite lost when engulfed and entangled in it.” Kim Roosevelt: “Choice of law is a mess.” William Reynolds: “Choice of law today, both the theory and practice of it, is universally said to be a disaster. The agreement on that proposition, among all branches of the profession, is nearly universal. “ Joseph William Singer: a “confusing morass”

6 choice of law

7 What are you doing when you do choice of law?

8 - A Pennsylvania husband and wife get into a car accident in New York. - The wife sues the husband in state court in Vermont. - Pennsylvania has interspousal immunity; NY and Vermont do not.

9 It’s like statutory interpretation: The Vermont court is trying to determine whether Pennsylvania officials want their interpousal immunity law to apply to Pennsylvania couples who get into accidents out of state...

10 It’s like international law: There is a division of lawmaking authority that transcends states (and nations). Vermont does not have the power to determine the capacity of Pennsylvanians to sue one another after having accidents in New York.

11 It’s like procedure: The Vermont court needs to choose whether New York or Pennsylvania law should be used, and it has its own rules (like its rules for service or joinder) to make that choice.

12 The Traditional Approach

13 Alabama Great Southern RR Co v Carroll (Ala. 1892)

14 § 386. Liability To Servant For Tort Of Fellow Servant The law of the place of wrong determines whether a master is liable in tort to a servant for a wrong caused by a fellow servant. § 377. The Place Of Wrong The place of wrong is in the state where the last event necessary to make an actor liable for an alleged tort takes place.

15 territorialism

16 Assume everything happened in Mississippi: Plaintiff and Defendant were from Miss., the fellow employee’s wrongdoing was there, and the harm occurred there. Can Alabama law extend to the matter?

17 Story: [E]very nation possesses an exclusive sovereignty and jurisdiction within its own territory. The direct consequence of this rule is, that the laws of every state affect, and bind directly all property, whether real or personal, within its territory; and all persons, who are residents within it, whether natural born subjects, or aliens; and also all contracts made, and acts done within it…. Another maxim…is that no state or nation can, by its laws, directly affect, or bind property out of its own territory, or bind persons not resident therein, whether they are natural born subjects, or others.

18 Assume an Alabama court has jurisdiction of the case. Can it use Alabama law?

19 From these two maxims or propositions there flows a third... that whatever force and obligation the laws of one country have in another depend solely upon the laws and municipal regulations of the latter, that is to say, upon its own proper jurisprudence and polity, and upon its own express or tacit consent.

20 comity

21 Beale: Law being a general rule to govern future transactions, its method of creating rights is to provide that upon the happening of a certain event a right shall accrue. The creation of a right is therefore conditioned upon the happening of an event.... When a right has been created by law, this right itself becomes a fact.... A right having been created by the appropriate law, the recognition of its existence should follow everywhere. Thus, an act valid where done cannot be called into question anywhere.

22 vested rights theory

23 Beale: [T]he territorial law has the right to make such rules as it pleases for the solution of the conflict of laws....

24 legal realism

25 Holmes: If you want to know the law and nothing else, you must look at it as a bad man, who cares only for the material consequences which such knowledge enables him to predict, not as a good one, who finds his reasons for conduct, whether inside the law or outside of it, in the vaguer sanctions of conscience.... Take the fundamental question, What constitutes the law?... [I]f we take the view of our friend the bad man we shall find that he does not care two straws for the axioms or deductions, but that he does want to know what the Massachusetts or English courts are likely to do in fact. I am much of his mind. The prophecies of what the courts will do in fact, and nothing more pretentious, are what I mean by the law.

26 lex loci delicti

27 “Up to the time this train passed out of Alabama no injury had resulted. For all that occurred in Alabama, therefore, no cause of action whatever arose. The fact which created the right to sue, the injury, without which confessedly no action would lie anywhere, transpired in the state of Mississippi. It was in that state, therefore, necessarily that the cause of action, if any, arose; and whether a cause of action arose and existed at all, or not, must in all reason be determined by the law which obtained at the time and place when and where the fact which is relied on to justify a recovery transpired.”

28 “Section 2590 of the Code, in other words, is to be interpreted in the light of universally recognized principles of private, international, or interstate law, as if its operation had been expressly limited to this state, and as if its first line read as follows: ‘When a personal injury is received in Alabama by a servant or employee,’ etc.”

29 What if the Alabama statute had said that it applied to injury out of state?


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