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1 Data management demonstrators Ian Bird; WLCG MB 18 th January 2011

2 March 2010 – Experiments express concern over Data management and access – First brainstorming … agree on Jamboree June 2010 – Amsterdam Jamboree – ~15 demonstrator projects proposed – Process: Follow up at WLCG meeting – ensure projects had effort and interest Follow up in GDB’s By end of year – decide which would continue based on demonstrated usefulness/feasibility 2 nd half 2010 – Initial follow up at WLCG workshop – GDB status report Jan 2011 – GDB status report (last week) – Close of process started in Amsterdam (today) Ian.Bird@cern.ch2 Reminder

3 12 projects scheduled at GDB – 2 had no progress reported (CDN + Cassandra/Fuse) – 10 either driven, or interest expressed, by experiments Assume these 10 will progress and be regularly reported on in GDB Scope for collaboration between several – To be encouraged/pushed Several using xrootd technology – Must ensure we arrange adequate support Which (and how) to be wrapped into WLCG sw distributions? Process and initiatives have been very useful – MB endorses continued progress on these 10 projects Ian.Bird@cern.ch3 My Summary of demonstrators

4 ATLAS PD2P – In use; linked to LST demonstrator – Implementation is ATLAS-specific, but ideas can be re-used with other central task-queues ARC Caching – Use to improve ATLAS use of ARC sites, could also help others use ARC – More general use of cache – needs input from developers (and interest/need from elsewhere) Speed-up of SRM getturl (make sync) – Essentially done, but important mainly if lots of small files (then other measures should be taken too) Cat/SE sync + ACL propagation with MSG – Prototype exists – Interest in testing from ATLAS – Ideas for other uses CHIRP – Seems to work well – use case of personal SE (grid home dir) – Used by ATLAS, tested by CMS Ian.Bird@cern.ch4 Summary … 1

5 Xrootd-related – Xrootd (EOS, LST) Well advanced, tested by ATLAS and CMS Strategy for Castor evolution at CERN – Xrootd – ATLAS Augments DDM Commonality with CMS – Xrootd-global – CMS Global xrootd federation, integrates with local SE’s and FS’s – Many commonalities – can we converge on a common set of tools?? Proxy-caches in root – Requires validation before production – Continue to study file caching in experiment frameworks NFS4.1 – Lot of progress in implementations and testing – Needs some xrootd support (CMSD) – Should MB push for pNFS kernel in SL? Ian.Bird@cern.ch5 Summary … 2

6 Amsterdam was not only the demonstrators Was a recognition that the network was a resource – Could use remote access – Should not rely on 100% accuracy of catalogues, etc. – Can use network to access remote services – Network planning group set up – Work with NRENs etc is ongoing (they got our message) Also understood where data management model should change – Separate tape and disk caches (logically at least) – Access to disk caches does not need SRM – SRM for “tape” can be minimal functionality – Disk to be treated as a cache – move away from data placement for analysis at least – Re-think “FTS” – Etc. Ian.Bird@cern.ch6 Post – Amsterdam

7 We have changed direction There are a number of very active efforts – driven by experiment need/interests for future – Not just what was in the demonstrators Should continue to monitor and support – and look for commonalities: opportunity to reduce duplication and improve support efforts Ian.Bird@cern.ch7 Conclusions


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