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1 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 1 Coexistence Discovery Procedures Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE 802.19. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Date: 2011-05-10 Authors:

2 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Abstract This presentation discusses procedures for CDIS and CM to make them discoverable for other entities in the coexistence system. This is a revised version of the presentation that has been discussed in TG1 calls. We have extended the presentation with discussion on requirements and provided some more details about relations to neighbor discovery procedure. The contributors would like to see the TG1 to have the system discovery topic as an agenda item now on with the objective to have the TG1 and interested contributors to work on a solution description. May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 2

3 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Contents 1.Introduction –What is system discovery about? –What is the assumed framework? 2.Assumptions of the proposal 3.The proposal –One way for a CM to find out another CM that serves a neighbor TVBD 4.Critical questions –What are the requirements we have for system discovery? 5.Summary May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 3

4 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission What this all is about? May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 4 How an entity can communicate with another, previously unknown, entity over Internet? CM 1 CE11 CM 2 CDIS Server CE12 CE21 CE22

5 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Categorization to easy and difficult tasks Easy tasks A CE to find out the address of a CM A CM to find out the address of a CDIS Difficult task A CM to find out the address of another CM that serves a neighbor TVBD –This is called now on in this presentation a global neighbor discovery May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 5

6 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Assumptions of the proposal IEEE 802.19.1 system related assumptions A CM uses a CDIS to find out neighbor TVBDs of a TVBD it serves, at least for the neighbor TVBDs that are served by some other CM CDIS is not a server but more like a DNS-like system from which a CM can get a list of neighbors and any related information regardless of CMs serving them External assumptions A DNS server is running in the network A CDIS has rights to update DNS records in the DNS server May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 6

7 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Discovery proposal – Executive summary Standard DNS is the solution for the easy tasks –IEEE 802.19.1 doesn’t have anything that prevents use of DNS –So, the proposal is to use DNS as it is for CM and CDIS discovery As part of the neighbor discovery service a CDIS figures out which CMs serve the neighboring TVBDs and provide the related information to the CMs as required –IEEE 802.19.1 specifies a neighbor discovery system that is very much like the DNS Hierarchical, distributed and fault tolerant May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 7

8 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission A DNS-kind of neighbor discovery system DNS protocol has been defined so that it allows multiple servers to be presented. DNS Client can use multiple DNS servers same time. DNS protocol has a built-in mechanism to forward queries and split responsibilities of different DNS zones. Sync between servers is also possible. No need for centralized CDIS implementation structure where CDIS servers have master-slave roles. However, DNS zone space needs to be unique and managed so that different zones have unique owners. –Example DNS zone N61E25.finland.coex is operated by operator 1 and zone N66E27.finland.coex operated by Operator 2 –This is an open issue that needs to be resolved later May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 8

9 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Easy tasks – CDIS discovery CDIS setup –A CDIS updates its IP and port data to the DNS server. Also a cdis alias is created to allow discovery queries –nsupdate –update add cdis01.testbed.lan. 300 A 192.168.0.11 –update add cdis01.testbed.lan. 300 TXT port:5001 –update add cdis.testbed.lan. 300 CNAME cdis01.testbed.lan. –send CDIS discovery –A CM has DNS server info received example with DHCP –CMs try to find a CDIS server. Example: –Query:host cdis –Response:cdis.testbed.lan is an alias for cdis01.testbed.lan cdis01.testbed.lan has address 192.168.0.11 May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 9

10 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Difficult task – Global neighbor discovery CM-CDIS interaction –The CM registers itself to the CDIS server and subscribes to the neighbor discovery service with procedures defined by 802.19.1 –The CM keeps the CDIS updated on changes in TVBD paramaeters –The CDIS checks the communication socket used by a registered CM –The CDIS updates DNS data –nsupdate –update add cm01.testbed.lan. 300 A 192.168.0.71 –update add cm01.testbed.lan. 300 TXT port:5003 –send –The CDIS determines neighboring TVBDs for the registered TVBDs of registered and subscribed CMs –The CDIS keeps the CMs updated on changes in neighboring TVBDs related to the TVBDs the CMs serve. This includes CM name/alias for each that serves a neighbor TVBD. May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 10

11 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Easy tasks – CM discovery CM discovery –When a CM tries to communicate with another CM it checks the DNS record of the target CM –Query:host –t ANY cm1.testbed.lan –Response:cm1.testbed.lan has address 192.168.0.71 cm1.testbed.lan descriptive text “port:5003 –CM-CM communication channel opening –Same DNS info can be also used when a CE tries to find address and port of a CM. A service provider can have the CM as service running in the network. In this case the CM alias can be set –nsupdate –update add cm01.testbed.lan. 300 A 192.168.0.71 –update add cm01.testbed.lan. 300 TXT port:5003 –update add cm.testbed.lan. 300 CNAME cm01.testbed.lan. –send May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 11

12 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Summary The very basics of the system discovery problem and concept are discussed A solution framework has been proposed –DNS used for simple tasks –Something new is needed to discover all the neighbors regardless of CMs serving them We haven’t proposed a complete solution but we need to sort out, as an example, what’s the way to have neighbor discovery system that is very much like the DNS –Our proposal doesn’t make modifications to DNS but assumes that we have a DNS-kind of system specified with CDISs having roles and protocols like with DNS May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 12

13 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Proposal We’d like to have the issue of system discovery and especially the neighbor discovery system as an agenda item in TG1 meetings now on We would like see joint development on these issues to happen between interested parties in the task group using this and other contributions on these issues May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 13

14 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission APPENDIX May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 14

15 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Proxy proposal If either of the peer CMs is behind NAT, some proxy solution is needed to enable communication channel Standard IETF RFC http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5389 (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) can be used to check NAT capabilities of routers that are between CM-CDIS or CM-CMhttp://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5389 CDIS can act as communication proxy between CMs if peer-to-peer communication between CMs is not possible CM NAT capability information can be stored to DNS records to allow automatic proxy setup May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 15

16 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Geo location dilemma May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 16 Distance in the physical space differs from the distance in the IP space CM 1 Node 1 CM 2 GW 1 GW 2 Backbone 1 – 100 m 1 – 10 km 1 0 – 100 km 1 – 10000 km CDIS Server 1 – 100 m Node 2 Node 3 Node 4 Node 5 Node 6

17 doc.: IEEE 802.19-11/0040r1 Submission Physical vs. IP space Distances in real world are measured with meters. Same metric apply also to radio interferences and that way coexistence solution. IP networks define distances in different way. Metric is either hop or round-trip time (RTT). Hop is simply a number that tells how many IP devices forward the packet until packet reach the destination. RTT is time that it takes to send a packet to the destination and send it back. There is no reliable mapping between real world distance and IP distance. You can’t map hops or RTT to meters. This means that discovery mechanism needs to be addressed in higher level. May 2011 Miika Laaksonen, NokiaSlide 17

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