1. XCON IETF 64 November 8 th – 9 th, 2005 Vancouver, BC, Canada

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3. Administrative Tasks Minute Taker? XMPP Scribe? Blue Sheets New Area by IETF 65: Realtime Applications and Infrastructure (RAI) Ad-hoc mode: even if you know what you’re doing, check your settings. If you don’t know what you’re doing, remove your wireless card.

4. Agenda: Tuesday TimeLengthDiscussion LeaderTopic 0900 – 0905 5 minutesChairsAgenda Bash 0905 – 0915 10 minutesChairsStatus Update 0915 – 0925 10 minutesChairsCharter: Updating Milestones 0925 – 0940 15 minutesGonzalo CamarilloFloor Control: Epilogue 0940 – 1025 45 minutesMary BarnesXCON Framework 1025 – 1035 10 minutesOscar NovoXCON Common Data Model 1035 – 1055 15 minutesOrit LevinConference Package 1055 – 1110 20 minutesDave Morgan Role De  nitions for Common Conferencing 1110 – 112010 minutesChris Boulton MSRP Centralized Conferencing 1120 – 1130 10 minutesRoni Even People and Content Video Streams

5. Agenda: Wednesday TimeLengthDiscussion LeaderTopic 1510 - 152010 minutesChairs Protocol Selection Discussion 1520 - 153010 minutesOrit LevinCCCP 1530 - 154515 minutesChris BoultonMedia Templates 1545 - 161025 minutesChairs Protocol Selection Open Discussion

6. Status Floor Control Requirements in RFC Editor’s Queue Conferencing Scenarios in RFC Editor’s Queue BFCP has gone through IESG review; sent back with some security comments Framework document has gone through substantial detailed review from dedicated reviewers

7. Status (Continued) Still need to  nalize framework and data model Need to complete work around media manipulation (including quite probably media sent to a subset of participants) Must identify (and maybe de  ne) protocol for conference state manipulation

8. Charter Discussion Milestones need resetting Original plans included different protocols for media control and membership control Current thinking seems to be that protocols for performing such manipulations should, in fact, be a single protocol

9. Proposed Charter Milestones Jul 06 – Submit Framework and Data Model for publication as PS Aug 06 – Submit Event Noti  cation Package for publication as PS Oct 06 – Submit Common Conference Information De  nition for publication as PS Nov 06 – Submit Conference Template De  nition for publication as PS Dec 06 – Submit Conference Control Protocol for publication as PS Any IM-related work can begin discussion after Conference Control Protocol is in the IESG’s hands (e.g. MSRP conferencing BCP)

10. XCON: Session 2 IETF 64 November 9 th, 2005 Vancouver, BC, Canada

11. Protocol Selection: Don’t Make Me Stop This Car CCCP, CPCP, and CSCP have actual proposed speci  cations Several other ideas have been  oated informally, but no one has invested cycles in documenting them in a draft –Some are very general; e.g. proposals to “use SOAP” is about as well- specified as saying “use IP”. We need to decide on a way forward. –Anyone with a proposal that has not been documented in a draft needs to either produce a draft or stop making proposals. Deadline is December 31 st. –Between now and December 31 st, interested parties should discuss criteria for evaluating protocols on the mailing list. –We will be taking volunteers to author a document to formally evaluate the proposals against the criteria and make a recommendation before March. Goal is to have protocol speci  cation in IESG’s hands by end of 2006.