1. The John D. Odegard School for Aerospace Sciences at the University of North Dakota

2. NTAS 2010 Presentation Presenters: Jeremy Roesler, Chief Flight Instructor – Airplane Dick Schultz, Associate Director of Flight Operations Contributors: Elizabeth Bjerke, Associate Professor Dan Malott, Assistant Professor

3. UND Students 7 Undergraduate Degree Programs Master of Science in Aviation Partnership with Tokai University, Japan International Flight Training Contracts

4. Aircraft/FTD Fleet 43 – Cessna 172 18 – Piper Warrior 10 – Piper Arrow 15 – Piper Seminole 2 – King Air C90B 2 – Cessna 150 2 - Decathelon 1 – PA12 Supercruiser 11 – Frasca FTD 2 – Frasca Mentor 1 – Level 6 CRJ FTD 2 – Bell 206B 6 – Schweizer 300C 1 – Boeing Scan Eagle UAV

5. UND Flight Operation FY10 – over 118,000 hours (aircraft and FTD) 2009 - 23 rd busiest ATC control tower

6. UND People 38 - Academic Faculty 250 - Flight Instructors 30 - “Flying” Management Staff  FAA and JCAB Designated Examiners on staff 500+ Total Employees

8. H.R. 3371 “allow specific academic training courses to be credited pursuant to section 11(d) toward the total flight hours required to receive an airline transport pilot certificate.”

9. H.R. 3371 Response Considerations Where is the balance for collegiate aviation? – The recruitment and retention of students, vs. – The stability of the CFI workforce working with those students

11. ATP Aeronautical Experience Requirements (FAR 61.159) 1500 Hours Total Time – 500 Hours Cross-Country Time(33%) – 100 Hours Night Time(7%) – 75 Hours Instrument Time(5%) These requirements have been in place since a 1997 rule change…

12. Comparison between FAA and ICAO FAA - Cross-Country Definition for ATP (61.1) – (A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft; – (B) That is at least a straight- line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and – (C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems. ICAO – Cross-Country Definition (Annex 1) – A flight between a point of departure and a point of arrival following a pre- planned route using standard navigation procedures. – No distance requirement mentioned

13. Comparison between FAA and ICAO FAA – ATP Aeronautical Experience (61.159) – 1500 Hours Total Time 500 Cross-Country Time 100 Night Time 75 Instrument Time ICAO – ATPL Experience (Annex 1, 2.6.3.1.1) – 1500 Hours Flight Time 200 Cross-Country Time 100 Night Time 75 Instrument Time Why is there a difference in the definition of Cross-Country Time? Why is there a difference in the actual hours required of Cross-Country Time?

14. CFI Experience Survey Purpose of Study – Assess the actual experience a typical CFI acquires in relation to the FAA ATP requirements. Participants – Hourly CFIs in a Part 141 environment (Convenient Sample) – N=200 Data received: – Total flight time – Cross country (50 nm) – Night – Instrument – Length of employment at UND – Career Aspirations

15. CFI Experience Survey Years of CFI employment at UND 5+ 1 3-5 11 2-374 1-285 <129 Does not take into consideration: – Part-time vs. full-time employment – Flight instruction employment at other schools/FBOs

16. CFI Experience Survey Aeronautical Experience Averages – Total flight time 864.9 – Cross-Country 218(25%) – Night115.3(13%) – Instrument73.6(9%) At this rate of accumulation, 2000 hours of TT would be needed to acquire the 500 hours of XC time. Percentage of XC time decreases the longer an individual acts as a CFI. (This is due to the amount of solo XC time required during initial flight training)

17. CFI Experience Survey 2.5% currently meet ATP minimums

18. CFI Experience Survey ATP Minimums Total flight time10% Night time46.5% Instrument time34.5%

19. CFI Experience Survey ATP Minimums Total flight time10% Night time46.5% Instrument time34.5% Cross-country time4.5%

21. So how could this impact flight training? Will CFIs conduct more cross country flights with students that would normally be local flights? – Will this increase training costs for the students? – Will it require a paradigm shift in how we currently conduct flight training? Change TCOs?

22. H.R. 3371 Considerations Current ATP requirements – FAA definition vs. ICAO definition – XC requirement CFIs employed at a Part 141 vs. Part 142 institution – More flight time logged at Part 141 institutions

23. Career Aspirations of Current CFIs When asked of their initial career aspirations 56% stated airline flying. Currently only 24% are still considering a career in airlines – Reasons include low pay at airlines, perceived state of the airline industry and life-style of airline pilot Current trend we are seeing from our CFIs – Military – Non-aviation related employment – Additional schooling (business courses)

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