1. Joint M.Sc. studies in Skopje (history and future) Katerina Zdravkova keti@ii.edu.mk

2. History of Joint M.Sc. in Skopje  2006: Preparation of joint curricula  February 2006: Accepted at Institute of Informatics  May 2006: Accepted at Faculty of Natural Sciences and Mathematic  29 November 2006: Accepted at the University Ss Cyril and Methodius  March 2007: Enrolment starts  April 2007: Mobility starts

3. Enrolled students  2006/07: 32 students 29 new students 3 students from 2005/06 moved  2007/08: 9 students (MABECS attracted 11 students)  2008/09: 13 students  2009/10: 2 students only

4. Academic fee  2006/07: 200 EUR per semester + 550 EUR for the thesis  2007/08: 490 EUR per semester + 550 EUR for the thesis  2008/09: 750 EUR per semester + 550 EUR for the thesis  2009/10: 750 EUR per semester + 550 EUR for the thesis  2010/11 (not SE): 700 EUR per semester + ??? EUR for the thesis

5. Active students  2006/07: 19 out of 32 1 moved to MABECS 1 moved to Leiden in NL, already an M.Sc. 1 moved to Institute of Economics 1 moved to SAP in Heidelberg 9 busy or not interested to continue M.Sc. studies  2007/08: 6 out of 9  2008/09: 10 out of 12  2009/10: 1 out of 2

6. Activated core modules  SE-C-01: Research methods  SE-C-02: Requirements engineering  SE-C-03: Architecture, design and patterns  SE-C-04: Software testing  SE-C-05: System integration  SE-C-06: Information system development process

7. Activated optional modules  SE-O-03: Formal methods engineering  SE-O-04: Software engineering for critical systems  SE-O-05: Privacy, ethics and social responsibilities  SE-O-11: Software engineering for database systems  SE-O-12: Advanced topics in software engineering

8. SE-C-01: Research methods  April 2006 teacher: Hussein Zedan examiner: Zoran Budimac  2007 – teacher and examiner: Zoran Budimac  Attended by all the students  Successfully finished by 37 students  Average grade: 8,89

9. SE-C-02: Requirements engineering  April 2006 teacher and examiner : Mira Ivanovic  Attended by all the students  Successfully finished by 24 students  Average grade: 9,63

10. SE-C-03: Architecture, design and patterns  August 2006 teacher: Ioan Jurca examiner: Zoran Budimac  2007 – 2009 examiner: Zoran Budimac  Attended by 25 students  Successfully finished by 15 students  Average grade: 9,27  May 2010 teacher and examiner: Nevena Ackovska 11 (out of 12) are expected to finish it by the end of September

11. SE-C-04: Software testing  September 2009 teachers: Katerina Zdravkova, Anastas Misev practical lectures: Sasko Ristov examiners: Katerina Zdravkova, Anastas Misev, Sasko Ristov  Attended by 21 student  Assignments done by 4 – 17 students  Final results will be known in September

12. SE-C-05: System integration  April 2006 teacher: Rebeca Cortazar examiner: Milena Stankovic  2008 – teacher and examiner: Dragoslav Pesovic  Attended by 30 students  Successfully finished by 18 students  Average grade: 9,78

13. SE-C-06: Information system development process  April 2006 teachers: Mira Ivanovic, Margita Kon-Popovska practical lectures: Vangel Ajanovski examiner: Margita Kon-Popovska  2008 - Mira Ivanovic withdraw Margita Kon-Popovska and Vangel Ajanovski  Attended by more than 20 students  Successfully finished by 4 students  Average grade: 10,00

14. SE-O-03: Formal methods engineering  May 2006 teacher: Hussein Zedan practical lectures: Boro Jakimovski examiners: Biljana Janeva, Boro Jakimovski  2007 teacher: Biljana Janeva examiners: Biljana Janeva, Boro Jakimovski  2008, 2009 teacher: Dragan Masulovic practical lectures: Boro Jakimovski examiners: Dragan Masulovic, Boro Jakimovski  Attended by more than 25 students  Successfully finished by 13 students  Average grade: 8,85

15. SE-O-04: Software engineering for critical systems  2006 - teacher: Dragan Masulovic Practical lectures: Boro Jakimovski, Anastas Misev examiners: Dragan Masulovic, Boro Jakimovski, Anastas Misev  Attended by more than 15 students  Successfully finished by 6 students  Average grade: 10,00

16. SE-O-05: Privacy, ethics and social responsibilities  2006 - teacher and examiner: Katerina Zdravkova  Attended by more than 40 students  Successfully finished by 29 students  Average grade: 9,38

17. SE-O-11: Software engineering for database systems  2007 - teachers: Margita Kon-Popovska, Goran Velinov individual projects assigned by Goran Velinov practical lectures: Goran Velinov, Vangel Ajanovski  Attended by no more than 10 students  Final results will be known in September?

18. SE-O-12: Advanced topics in software engineering  2007 teacher: individual projects assigned by Zoran Budimac examiners: Zoran Budimac and Gordana Rakic  Attended by approximately 15 students  Successfully finished by 13 students  Average grade: 9,46

19. How much have students advanced?  April 7 th 2010: Magdalena Kostoska defended her M.Sc thesis Software architectures  June 7 th 2010: Daniela Bosnakoska Software testing  September 2010: Nenad Bojkovski will probably defend his M.Sc thesis Software process management  5 more students are preparing their thesis  They will probably defend their thesis by the end of 2010

20. Statistics of student success  52 students have finished at least one module  156 exams successfully passed  In average, each student passed 3 exams  Average grade of all the students who finished at least one module: 9,33  Best average grade: 10,00 (Magdalena )  Poorest average: 7,67 (from 2 exams)

21. Successfully finished exams  8 exams: 8 students (average: 9,56)  7 exams: 4 students (average: 9,12)  6 exams: 1 student (average: 9,10)  5 exams: 2 students (average: 9,68)  4 exams: none  3 exams: 1 student (average: 8,67)  2 exams: 12 students (average: 9,10)  1 exam: 10 students (average: 9,81)

22. Current status of the studies  4 generations enrolled  accreditation expires  it is not clear whether new students could enroll in 2010/11 (probably not)  interest of students with 3 year studies is very high  New curricula for students who graduated from: 4 year studies according to ECTS  30 + 30 ECST 3 year studies according to ECST  90 + 30 ECST 4 year studies before 2008  60 ? + 30 ECST  will be prepared by the end of June

23. 4 year studies according to ECTS  Software engineering division already covers: Professional ethics (5 th semester) Analysis of software requirements (5 th semester) Software architecture and design (6 th semester) Software construction (7 th semester) Software process management (8 th semester) Software quality and testing (8 th semester)  Directly towards optional modules

24. Optional modules in the 9 th semester  Research methods  System integration  Information system development process  Software evolution*  Component-based development*  Software engineering for critical systems  Software engineering for database systems  Advanced topics in software engineering * These modules exist in the list of master modules in Novi Sad.

25. 3 year studies according to ECST  Both divisions already cover: Professional ethics (5 th semester, 4 ECTS)  Students sometimes elect: Software process management (6 th semester) Software quality and testing (6 th semester)  They need at least 90 credits  60 credits will be offered from 4-year studies (predominantly theoretical)  30 credits will be offered from Joint M.Sc. modules

26. Recommended SE modules according to our B.Sc. studies  Software engineering  Calculus 3  Probability and statistics  Analysis of software requirements  Compilers  Internet technologies  Software design and architecture  Information systems  Software construction  Software project management  Human-computer interaction  Software quality and testing

27. Core modules Instead of:  Analysis of software requirements  Software design and architecture  Software quality and testing students should enroll:  Requirements engineering  Architecture, design and patterns  Software testing

28. Again, optional modules in the 9 th semester  Research methods  System integration  Information system development process  Software evolution*  Component-based development*  Software engineering for critical systems  Software engineering for database systems  Advanced topics in software engineering * These modules exist in the list of master modules in Novi Sad.

29. 4 year studies before 2008  The most suitable model: 3 semester model  But, the Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Information Technology offers 1 year master studies in software engineering  Compromise?: 5 modules with 6 credits each

30. Optional modules in the 9 th semester  Research methods  Requirements engineering  Architecture, design and patterns  Software testing  System integration  Information system development process  Software evolution*  Component-based development*  Software engineering for critical systems  Software engineering for database systems  Advanced topics in software engineering

31. How to cope with different background  All the optional modules from previous slide will be offered to all the students.  The list is big enough to be appropriate for all the students with 4 year undergraduate studies  All the recommended modules from slide 26, together with all the optional modules from previous slide will be offered to those students who have 3 year professional studies  This approach is comparable with Novi Sad (?)

32. + electronic enrolment system or M.Sc studies council  We already have an electronic enrolment system for undergraduates  It will be extended for postgraduates  Students will express interest for several modules  Whenever selection is not appropriate it will not be accepted For example, student from 3 year studies has already passed Software quality and testing during 6 th semester, and expresses interest to enroll Software testing. The EE system or the council will not accept this selection.

33. Joint degree in software engineering  The Vice Rector considers joint M.Sc curricula a great success  Earlier, she encouraged me to apply for a joint degree  Nowadays, she insists on double degree  We (Skopje and Novi Sad), also consider only double degree

34. Double degree in informatics  We have additional M.Sc studies in (Enterprise) information technologies according to Tempus JEP 18046-2003  This direction is similar to information systems in Novi Sad  We suggest to think of potential double degree not only for these two branches, but also to ALL M.Sc. Degrees at the Institute of Informatics (they have an accreditation from 2010)  For more information, please check http://www.ii.edu.mk/tag.idempotent.render.u19 l1n523.uP?

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