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Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 SNS Update – Team Building Steve Miller June 22, 2004 DANSE Meeting at Caltech.

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1 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 SNS Update – Team Building Steve Miller June 22, 2004 DANSE Meeting at Caltech

2 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 2 SNS Instrument Suite – 3 on-line in 2006 PROTONS Engineering Diffractometer – BL 9 Areas for User and Instrument Support SANS – BL 6 Cold Neutron Chopper Spectrometer – BL 5 Magnetism – BL 4a Liquids – BL 4b Reflectometers High Pressure Diffractometer – BL 3 Backscattering Spectrometer – BL 2 Disordered Materials Diffractometer – BL 1b Wide Angle Chopper Spectrometer – BL 18 High Resolution Chopper Spectrometer – BL 17 Single Crystal Diffractometer – BL 12 Fundamental Physics Beamline – BL 13 Powder Diffractometer – BL 11a Powder Diffractometer – BL 11a Software needs to be on-line to support BL 2, 4a, and 4b

3 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 3 Setting the Stage - Instrument Schedule 2006 – 3 instruments: 1 spectrometer and 2 refectometers 2007 – 5 instruments: 3 spectrometers and 2 diffractometers 2008 – 2 instruments: 1 spectrometer and 1 diffractometer 2009 – 1 instrument: 1 diffractometer 2010 – 1 instrument: 1 diffractometer 2011 – 1 instrument: 1 spectrometer

4 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 4 Instrument Scientists Eager to Know More Want to know what languages they can use. Some anxious to learn if they will be able to continue developing software. Some wondering if we can produce code that will be easy for their users to learn and use – wondering if they will “loose sleep” over users having difficulty with software. Will the learning curve be steep – for them, for their developers, for their users? How soon will they be able to begin? When will SNS start demonstrating some tangible results?

5 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 5 Working with Instrument Scientists They have data from various experiments and want to develop code that can be re-used as part of the new software hosted at SNS. Most desire to be an active part of the software development process – all appear to have opinions… Not really that interested in data management issues, distributed processing, networking and grids, etc. – just want software that “works”. However, very interested in the science, mathematical accuracy, visualization, and ease of development and use. As a fall back, most would write their own code to work with data, or would seek to use existing software packages (DAVE, MSLICE, ISAW, etc.).

6 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 6 Where to Start? Identify team members Develop a comprehensive software plan Produce software architecture documents Finalize functional requirements – move on to specifications Develop software plan for each instrument Consider and evaluate existing software options

7 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 7 Proposed Implementation Phases for SNS Phase 1 – now until 12/04 –Pull team members together –Develop plans and architecture –Prototype code –Build infrastructure Phase 2 - 10/04 until 4/06 –First 3 instruments supported Phase 3 - 4/06 until ? –Incorporate grid and/or network services –Incorporate high performance computing –Extend data management services –Support additional instruments as they come on-line

8 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 8 Team Members DANSE Team ISIS – interested in contributing in data management area NIST – where can DAVE fit in? ANL – how can ISAW be utilized? KEK HFIR ORNL – CSM SNS Team Issues What can team members best contribute? Can we effectively pool resources? As they arise, how to manage competing ideas and methods? Can we develop consensus?

9 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 9 Logistics Questions When must the construction proposal be submitted? How does this affect the overall development process? How to coordinate DANSE construction effort in conjunction with SNS development? What shall the DANSE construction effort comprise? What work shall be performed under the DANSE design proposal? What collaboration tools shall we utilize? CVS, WIKI, eProject, etc. How do we involved the larger team comprised of the other facilities? The big picture – who sees it? How do we all achieve it?

10 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 10 Switching Gears - SNS Wants “Impact” Software From day 1, SNS wants to provide researchers with tools having capabilities not previously available to the Neutron Science Community. What can we do differently? Are there new technologies we should consider? How can/should DANSE contribute to producing impact? What is impact software? Nobody can say for sure, but people will know it when they see it. Potentially an ideal area for the DANSE team to concentrate.

11 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 11 What Risks Do We Face? Are we able to successfully produce collaborations? Can we agree on architecture issues should they arise? Are we able to obtain necessary resources? Are we able to move quickly enough as a collaboration team? Can we develop tools fast enough? Or should we investigate where we can use commercial software?

12 Experimental Facilities DivisionORNL - SNS June 22, 2004 12 SUMMARY SNS Instrument Scientists need to be involved in software development. Need a composite and comprehensive software plan with software architecture. Day 1 software needs to have “impact”. The DANSE construction effort must be tightly integrated with SNS plans. How to manage this large collaboration – it remains to be seen how we all can work together. Need to develop software in phases to meet SNS needs. TEAM BUILDING – essential right now.


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