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1 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 1 WLAN-3GPP Interworking Metric Date: 2014-07-17 Authors:

2 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Revision History July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 2 RevisionNote R0Initial R1Fixed document number typo. Minor editorial updates (e.g. fixed figures moving around). Changed references from REVmc D3.0 to IEEE 802.11-2012 R2Changed reference 14/0921r1 to 14/0921r2 R3Changed reference 14/0921r2 to 14/0921r3

3 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Background 3GPP TSG RAN WG2 (RAN2) is developing a mechanism for interworking (IW) between 3GPP RATs (UMTS and LTE) and WLAN –3GPP had sent a liaison statement to IEEE 802.11 in April 2014 (IEEE 802.11-14/0519r0) –IEEE 802.11 responded as in IEEE 802.11-14/0658r6 See next slide Discouraged use of RCPI and RSNI July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 3

4 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Previous Liaisons July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 4 Questions in liaison statement from 3GPP (IEEE 802.11-14/0519r0) Response from IEEE 802.11 to 3GPP (IEEE 802.11-14/0658r6) Question 1: Does IEEE 802.11 WG consider WLAN RCPI a suitable metric of WLAN signal strength such that it can be compared to thresholds as in the above described mechanism? We consider the RCPI value as defined in IEEE 802.11™-2012 a metric for signal strength. Question 2: Does IEEE 802.11 WG consider WLAN RSNI a suitable metric of WLAN signal quality such that it can be compared to thresholds as in the above described mechanism? We consider the RSNI value as defined in IEEE 802.11™-2012 a metric for signal quality in downlink direction.

5 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Previous Liaisons (Cont’d) July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 5 3GPP TSG RAN WG2 (RAN2) is developing a mechanism for inter-working between 3GPP RATs (UMTS and LTE) and WLAN –3GPP had sent a liaison statement to IEEE 802.11 [1] in April 2014, to which the IEEE 802.11 responded as in [2] Questions in liaison statement from 3GPP (IEEE 802.11-14/0519r0) Response from IEEE 802.11 to 3GPP (IEEE 802.11-14/0658r6) Question 3: Does IEEE 802.11 WG consider any other WLAN signal metric more suitable for the above described mechanism? Understanding that the objective of the mechanism is to select the network that provides the best match to the QoS and/or throughput requirements of the system, the consideration of RNSI/RCPI is not sufficient on its own to efficiently estimate the available throughput and QoS that will be experienced in the IEEE 802.11 WLAN. Other metrics should be taken into account, especially channel bandwidth, operating band, number of spatial streams, BSS load, and WAN metrics, see also the attached Table 1. Comparing only the RSNI/RCPI, as is, to thresholds presents some risks of poor decisions. Ideally, a single parameter, such as estimated available throughput, which combines all of the above parameters, would be determined inside of the WLAN modem and then delivered to the upper layers.

6 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Further Background 3GPP RAN2 is still using RCPI and RSNI as the PHY metrics for WLAN-3GPP IW –ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/tsg_ran/WG2_RL2/TSGR2_86/Docs/R2-142955.zipftp://ftp.3gpp.org/tsg_ran/WG2_RL2/TSGR2_86/Docs/R2-142955.zip –ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/TSG_RAN/TSG_RAN/TSGR_64/Docs/RP-140556.zipftp://ftp.3gpp.org/TSG_RAN/TSG_RAN/TSGR_64/Docs/RP-140556.zip –ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/TSG_RAN/TSG_RAN/TSGR_64/Docs/RP-141010.zipftp://ftp.3gpp.org/TSG_RAN/TSG_RAN/TSGR_64/Docs/RP-141010.zip –ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/TSG_RAN/TSG_RAN/TSGR_64/Docs/RP-141011.zipftp://ftp.3gpp.org/TSG_RAN/TSG_RAN/TSGR_64/Docs/RP-141011.zip 3GPP RAN2 had requested 3GPP SA2 to include RCPI and RSNI in the requirements documents –RAN2 is the technical group –SA2 is the Architecture requirements group During discussion in 3GPP SA2, additional issues were found for RCPI and RSNI –ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/tsg_sa/WG2_Arch/TSGS2_104_Dublin/Docs/S2-142942.zipftp://ftp.3gpp.org/tsg_sa/WG2_Arch/TSGS2_104_Dublin/Docs/S2-142942.zip This contribution describes additional issues with using RCPI and RSNI for WLAN-3GPP IW, and proposes way forward for WLAN- 3GPP IW July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 6

7 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission RSNI July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 7

8 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission IEEE 802.11-2012 Definition of RSNI in IEEE 802.11 P.7 P.20 July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 8

9 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Definition of RSNI in IEEE 802.11 (Cont’d) IEEE 802.11-2012 10.11.9.4. Noise Histogram report: P1069 July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 9

10 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Example STA1 is DUT BSS1 and BSS2 have partially overlapping channel –Also, AP2 close to STA1 –But BSS2 is lightly loaded. So, channel is clear for BSS1 most of the time. Good candidate for 3GPP  WLAN roaming for STA1 Assume noise floor of -96 dBm/20 MHz at STA1 RX July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 10

11 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Example July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 11

12 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Example Case 1 July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 12

13 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Case 2 Example July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 13

14 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Example Before receiving the first green packet, STA1 RX likely listening to the entire 80 MHz –Don’t know the BW of the next packet coming in. –Need to perform CCA on 80 MHz Then, should be ANPI for the first green packet be over 20 MHz or 80 MHz? –Of course, a ‘logical’ answer is that it should be over 20 MHz (-96 dBm), not 80 MHz (-90 dBm) –But the point here is that the standard does not define this clearly – yet another example of potential pitfall. Case 3 July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 14

15 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Other Notes What if DUT has multiple RX antennas? –How is ANPI defined? Average over RX chains? Summed over RX chains? –Not defined clearly in the IEEE standard  Interop issue expected w/o further clarification RSNI measurement is optional RSNI is NOT RSRQ in 3GPP –RSRQ = Reference Signal Received Quality Roughly speaking, SINR –RSNI does not measure the interference ‘present’ in the packet –Rather, the interference is measured during ‘idle’ time some time before the packet arrives That interference may or may not be present in the packets the DUT is receiving July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 15

16 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Summary – RSNI RSNI is currently broken –RSNI definition fails (numerically cannot be computed) in some cases –Many ambiguities exists WLAN-3GPP interworking should not be based on a metric which is broken RSNI is not RSRQ July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 16

17 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission RCPI AND RSSI July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 17

18 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission RCPI vs. RSSI RCPI and RSSI are similar in nature –RCPI is the power measured during the data portion of the packet –RSSI is the power measured during the preamble portion of the packet HT/VHT preamble in case of HT/VHT PPDUs –Signal power between preamble and data are the same –There is minor difference in noise bandwidth RCPI assumes noise equivalent BW 1.1 times greater than the channel BW No noise equivalent BW specified for RSSI Difference should be small Measurement accuracy –Dominated by analog gain inaccuracy, not digital power measurement inaccuracy RCPI and RSSI should be able to achieve similar accuracy Accuracy requirement in IEEE 802.11 –RCPI has a ±5 dB (95% confidence interval) accuracy requirement, while RSSI does not. But as mentioned above, there is no reason why RSSI cannot achieve similar accuracy as RCPI July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 18

19 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission RSSI is Mandatory RCPI is optional RSSI, on the other hand, is mandatory –Used for CCA CCA is key functionality of CSMA, which all WLAN devices have to implement –IEEE 802.11-2012: P1811 July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 19

20 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission RSSI Unit RSSI unit in IEEE 802.11 is a ‘relative’ dB, not an ‘absolute’ dBm But since RSSI is used for CCA –CCA is in absolute dBm –Thus, RSSI in absolute dBm is implicitly available July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 20

21 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Other Ambiguities Multiple RX chains –RCPI for DSSS/CCK and NON_HT OFDM PPDUs does not specify how to deal w/ multiple RX chains E.g. Average over RX chains? Summed over RX chains? HT/VHT PPDUs specify that the RCPI is averaged over RX chains –RSSI also does not specify how to deal w/ multiple RX chains July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 21

22 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Summary – RSSI vs. RCPI RSSI and RCPI convey essentially the same information –RCPI is optional –RSSI is mandatory Both RSSI and RCPI has some ambiguities to be clarified July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 22

23 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission BEACON VS. DATA July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 23

24 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission What Packet Should be Used? Before WLAN has associated w/ an AP –There is no traffic. Only Beacon RSSI is available. When performing active scan, Probe Response RSSI would be available instead of Beacon RSSI But typically, Probe Response and Beacon are both sent in the lowest supported rate After WLAN has associated w/ an AP –If device is using 3GPP link as the main data pipe, then WLAN will not have much traffic WLAN will likely be in DTIM mode to save power –Again, only beacon RSSI is available Even if data traffic is available –Devices often change TX power as a function of MCS Several dB of TX power difference between the lowest rate and the highest rate is not uncommon –Hence, for the same path loss, data packet RSSI could vary considerably just because of TX power Receiver has no information on what the TX power was –Hence, data packet RSSI is not suitable for link quality assessment July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 24

25 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Beacon RSSI IEEE 802.11-2012 –P354 July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 25

26 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Summary – Beacon vs. Data RSSI Beacon RSSI is always available –Before association –After association, w/ and w/o traffic Data packet RSSI is not as reliable for link quality accessment –Function of TX power, which is implementation specific (i.e. can change drastically) July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 26

27 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission SUGGESTED WAY FORWARD July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 27

28 doc.: IEEE 802.11-14/0890r3 Submission Suggested Way Forward Communicate the following to 3GPP –Do not use RSNI for IW Fixing RSNI would take some effort Besides, RSNI does not necessarily reflect interference present in the packet. Hence, benefit for WLAN-3GPP IW is not clear –Replace RCPI w/ Beacon RSSI Need some clarifications in the IEEE 802.11 –Please see IEEE 802.11-14/0921r3 for details of the proposed changes For longer term, IEEE 802.11 should work on enhancing metrics for WLAN-3GPP interworking July 2014 Youhan Kim, Qualcomm Inc.Slide 28


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