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1 Authorities Recognition of “Other-Party” Approaches
Initial Authorities Comments 6th International Production & Airworthiness Meeting Boston, United States, 1st September 2005

2 Authorities Recognition of “Other Parties” Approaches
Question: Does the Authority Leadership Team agree that the ICOP scheme is acceptable ? Response from Leadership Team: There is insufficient detail in the current proposal for the Leadership Team to accept the ICOP scheme, specifically:-

3 Key Topics for Authorities
Authorities Recognition of “Other Parties” Approaches Key Topics for Authorities Does the proposal satisfy FAR21/Part 21 ? How will Industry actually control the scheme ? Why is the proposal different to the PRI-NADCAP model ? What are the opportunities for the Authorities to oversee ?

4 General Authorities Views
Authorities Recognition of “Other Parties” Approaches General Authorities Views Supportive of the overall concept to reduce multiple assessments – no mention of use of a PAH/POA approval to demonstrate interface where it exists. Analogy with P&AC Team 3 task to recognise other Authority approvals. Can comply with FAR21/Part 21, provided that the POA/PAH can demonstrate that their specific requirements to meet the applicable requirements are addressed as when using any other third party – this is already accepted for participating organisations for the NADCAP model.

5 Key Authorities Questions (1)
Authorities Recognition of “Other Parties” Approaches Key Authorities Questions (1) Objective is for any POA/PAH/Supplier to recognise the other party scheme. Unless an Organisation participates in the IAQG Management activity, how can they demonstrate control of the scheme to meet FAR21/Part 21 requirements ? What resource will be allocated to manage and maintain the system (including cross-sector standardisation) ? Previous attempts for JAA recognition encountered problems in this area. Current NADCAP scheme has significant resource commitment in order to achieve the global benefits.

6 Key Authorities Questions (2)
Authorities Recognition of “Other Parties” Approaches Key Authorities Questions (2) Should there be a mechanism for Authority oversight or participation in Certifying Bodies & Registrars ? What are the benefits to the Authorities in accepting the scheme ? Reduction in number and competence of Supplier QA personnel employed by the primes would be undesirable. Benefit of releasing resource to widen surveillance of suppliers/second and lower-tier subcontractors and to support process and product audits is no longer being mentioned.


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