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1 TGad November 2010 Report Date: 2010-11-09 Authors: November 2010
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 TGad November 2010 Report Date: Authors: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

2 November 2010 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

3 Register Indicate attendance Attendance
November 2010 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

4 Attendance, Voting & Document Status
November 2010 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

5 Patent Policy Following 5 slides November 2010 April 2007
doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

6 Instructions for the WG Chair
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

7 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

8 Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

9 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

10 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

11 Agenda Items for the Week
November 2010 Agenda Items for the Week Call for secretary Set agenda for the week Review from September Approve minutes from September Review conference calls Editor Report Allocation of ANA resources to TGad & motion Comment resolution on D1.0 & motions on resolutions Other presentations Planning for January Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

12 Allocation of ANA resources to TGad Comment Resolution
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Submissions Allocation of ANA resources to TGad ad-allocation-of-ana-resources-to-tgad.ppt Comment Resolution ad-cmt-resolution-part-1.doc 10/1291r0, PHY comments, Assaf (Wed/Th AM1) Beamforming, Assaf (Wed/Th AM1) ad-lb168-comment-database.xlsx ad-d comment-resolution.doc, Kapseok Chang (Th AM1/PM2) ad-misc-cid-comment-resolution-brianh (Th AM1) Other Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

13 Tentative TGad Agenda for the Week
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Tentative TGad Agenda for the Week Monday Nov 8th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Set agenda for the week Review from September Approve minutes from September Review conference calls Editor Report ANA & motion Comment resolution & motions Tuesday Nov 9th, 13:30 – 15:30 Tuesday Nov 9th, 16:00 – 18:00 Wednesday Nov 10th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Comment resolution & motions Thursday Nov 11th, 8:00 – 10:00 Thursday Nov 11th, 16:00 – 18:00 Planning for January Conference calls Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

14 Review from September Comment resolution completed on D0.1, 10/717r15
November 2010 Review from September Comment resolution completed on D0.1, 10/717r15 TG approved Coexistence Assurance document, 10/1025r3 TG/WG approved motion for Letter Ballot on D1.0 Update to ITU-R 60GHz liaison report approved in joint meeting with , 10/824r4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

15 Letter Ballot 168 on D1.0 LB168 D1.0 comment database 10/1220r1
November 2010 Letter Ballot 168 on D1.0 WG Members,  Ballot #168  was a 30 day Working Group technical recirculation Ballot asking the question "Should P802.11ad D1.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?".  The Official results are: Ballot Opening Date:    Friday                         September 24, 2010 - 23:59 ET Ballot Closing Date:      Sunday                              October 24, 2010 - 23:59 ET  RESPONSE RATE: 278 eligible people are in this ballot group.      163 affirmative votes     24 negative votes      26 abstention votes ===     213 votes received =  76.6% valid returns                                       =  12.2% valid abstentions This ballot has met the 50% returned ballot requirement This ballot has met the less than 30% abstention requirement   APPROVAL RATE: 163  affirmative votes       =      87.2 % affirmative   24  total negative votes  =      12.8 % negative The 75% affirmation requirement has been met, Motion passes. There were 1187 comments received. Regards, Bruce Kraemer Chair WG11 LB168 D1.0 comment database 10/1220r1 1229 Comment 670 Technical Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

16 November 2010 September Minutes Motion to approve September ‘10 TGad minutes as contained in r0 Move: Vinko Second: James No objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

17 Review of Conference Calls
November 2010 Review of Conference Calls Calls on Oct 14, 28, 2010 Cumulative minutes from 2010 in 10/0013r11 Submission on “Multiple MAC addresses” Review of LB 168 results Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

18 Editor Report 11-10/1080r2 November 2010
Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

19 Monday Nov 8th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Monday Nov 8th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Set agenda for the week Review from September Approve minutes from September Review conference calls Editor Report ANA & motion Comment resolution & motions Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

20 Notes for Monday November 8th, 13:30 – 15:30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Notes for Monday November 8th, 13:30 – 15:30 670 technical comments 300 CIDs without assignees ANA motion passed, next slide ad-cmt-resolution-part-1.doc 1158; no discussion 1156; 17, 19, no discussion 125 change pointer to P177L29 No discussion , 349, 350, 351, 359, 352, 353, 354, 357, 356, 360, 358, 361, 362, 363, 365 Some mods to resolution covering 125, 1160; no discussion 363; no discussion 365; no discussion 125; no discussion 530, 552, 635; no discussion 125; few questions Motion r2 on Tues Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

21 TGad Motion November 2010 November 2010
Request the IEEE Assigned Numbers Authority to allocate numbers for the following resources in the ad draft standard: The Frame Subtype values in subclause The Control Frame Extension values in Table 2 (Control Frame Extension) The Status Code values in subclause The Action field values in subclause The Information Element values in subclause 7.3.2 The position of the Joint Multi-band RSNA subfield in subclause The Cipher Suite value in subclause The Capabilities field values in subclause The Regulatory Class values in Annex J Moved: Carlos Seconded: Chris Result: Slide 21 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

22 November 2010 Tuesday Nov 9th, 13:30 – 15:30 China WPAN mmWave Liaison w/ , 10/1332r0, Liang Li Motion on CIDs Comment resolution, 10/1220r2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

23 Notes for Tuesday Nov 9th, 13:30 – 15:30
November 2010 Notes for Tuesday Nov 9th, 13:30 – 15:30 Motion 17 passed, see next slides 10/1332r0 Eldad to investigate copyright issue could add 45-50GHz to TGad Modify Annex J keeping same channelization Modify PAR to add 45-50GHz in China 45-50 GHz opening up in next year in China Strawpoll next slides Communicate that TGad is pursuing change for China and to keep one standard Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

24 Strawpoll Do you support: 37/0/5 Modify PAR to add 45-50GHz in China
November 2010 Strawpoll Do you support: Modify PAR to add 45-50GHz in China Adding table to Annex J for China, keeping same channel spacing (2160MHz) 37/0/5 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

25 Motion 17 Move to approve resolution of comments:
November 2010 Motion 17 Move to approve resolution of comments: 1158, 1156, 17, 19, 125, 1160, 355, 349, 351, 359, 352, 354, 357, 356, 360, 358, 361, 362, 363, 365, 1160, 530, 552, 635 In ad-cmt-resolution-part-1.doc Move/Second: Carlos/James Passes with no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

26 November 2010 10/1220r2 422 fixed spelling no objection 423 1021; no objection 481; no objection 497; no objection 53; no objection 54; no objection 498 Corrected clause number in commenter’s resolution 482; no objection 95 Fixed spelling no objection 419, 420, 156, 604, 168 Objection to bullet 1 in resolution, sympathetic to bullet 2 Delete bullet 1 Discussion regarding location of definitions, 3 vs. 3a; need to check IEEE dictionary to see if uplink/downlink is in dictionary A few commented on definition, may want to clarify 451; no objection 25 Strawpoll on next slide Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

27 Strawpoll on CID 25 Do you object to changing mSTA to DBand STA?
November 2010 Strawpoll on CID 25 Do you object to changing mSTA to DBand STA? 3/10/11 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

28 10/1220r2, cont’d 450; no objection 579 577 933; no objection 580
November 2010 10/1220r2, cont’d 450; no objection 577 IBSS DFS IDO STA definition in 11mb needs to be moved from clause 3 to 3A (error in 11n) Move definition to 3.2 No objection 931; no objection 932; no objection 418 Modify resolution to add “different sectors” to definitions 579 Move definition to 3.2 No objection 933; no objection 580 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

29 Tuesday Nov 9th, 16:00 – 18:00 Comment resolution, 10/1220r2
November 2010 Tuesday Nov 9th, 16:00 – 18:00 Comment resolution, 10/1220r2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

30 Notes for Tuesday Nov 9th, 16:00 – 18:00
November 2010 Notes for Tuesday Nov 9th, 16:00 – 18:00 10/1220r2, cont’d 68; no objection 1; no objection 93; no objection 569; no objection 570; no objection 564 Add wording regarding “going too far” Change to Disagree No objection 565 Minor change to resolution wording no objection 128; no objection 153, 165; no objection 584 Added PBSS to resolution 586; no objection 540; Change to “very short frame sizes” no objection 253; no objection 251; no objection 252; no objection 255; no objection 256; no objection 287; no objection 288; no objection 285; no objection 286; no objection 490, 417; no objection 122; no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

31 10/1220r2, cont’d November 2010 625; no objection 558
Minor wording changes no objection 475; no objection 411 Another solution is to define a MIB and set a default Look at 11z resolution Assign to Brian Hart 964, 107; no objection 404; no objection 405; no objection 406; no objection 296 change “subset” to “intersection” no objection 297; no objection 298; no objection 299 Change resolution text 300; no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

32 Wednesday Nov 10th, 13:30 – 15:30 Motion Comment resolution, 10/1220r3
November 2010 Wednesday Nov 10th, 13:30 – 15:30 Motion Comment resolution, 10/1220r3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

33 Motion 18 Move to approve resolution of comments:
November 2010 Motion 18 Move to approve resolution of comments: 422, 423, 1021, 481, 497, 53, 54, 498, 482, 95, 419, 420, 156, 604, 168, 451, 25, 450, 577, 931, 932, 418, 579, 933, 580, 68, 1, 93, 569, 570, 564, 565, 128, 153, 165, 584, 586, 540, 253, 251, 252, 255, 256, 287, 288, 285, 286, 490, 417, 122, 625, 558, 475, 964, 107, 404, 405, 406, 297, 298, 299, 300 In 10/1220r3 Move/Second: Carlos/Chris Passes with no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

34 Notes for Wednesday Nov 10th, 13:30 – 15:30
November 2010 Notes for Wednesday Nov 10th, 13:30 – 15:30 Remove 296 from Motion 18 More wordsmithing by Brian by Th AM1 10/1220r3 624; no objection 70; no objection 343; no objection 344; no objection 345; no objection 346; no objection 348; no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

35 10/1220r3 cont’d November 2010 505; no objection 444; no objection
399 Assign to Brian 381; no objection 380 Leave open, Carlos to think about adding more description to FST 1162; no objection 559; no objection 382; no objection 393 Leave open, work on the Figure 387; no objection 394; no objection 396 Change reference to Fig 131 in resolution no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

36 10/1220r3 cont’d 461; no objection 308; no objection 309; no objection
November 2010 10/1220r3 cont’d 461; no objection 308; no objection 309; no objection 310; no objection 312; no objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

37 Thursday Nov 11th, 8:00 – 10:00 Motion
November 2010 Thursday Nov 11th, 8:00 – 10:00 Motion ad-misc-cid-comment-resolution-brianh 10/1291r0, PHY comments, Assaf Beamforming, Assaf Comment resolution, 10/1220r4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

38 Motion 19 Move to approve resolution of comments: Move/Second:
November 2010 Motion 19 Move to approve resolution of comments: 624, 70, 343, 344, 345, 346, 348, 505, 444, 412, 1010, 1182, 538, 539, 545, 20, 626, 381, 1162, 559, 382, 387, 394, 396, 461, 308, 309, 310, 312 In 10/1220r4 Move/Second: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

39 Notes for Thursday Nov 11th, 8:00 – 10:00
November 2010 Notes for Thursday Nov 11th, 8:00 – 10:00 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

40 November 2010 Backup Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

41 Conference call times Previously approved conference calls
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Conference call times Previously approved conference calls Nov 18, Dec 9 10:00 – 12:00 ET Dec 2 20:00-22:00 ET New conference calls Not overlap with TGac Dec 23, Jan 6, Jan 27, Feb 10 10:00 – 12:00 ET Dec 16, 30, Jan 13, Feb 3, Feb 17 20:00-22:00 ET Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

42 Goals for January Comment resolution on D1.0
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2010 Goals for January Comment resolution on D1.0 Update on GHz in China Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation


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