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1 Coarse grained velocity derivatives
Beat Lüthi & Jacob Berg Søren Ott Jakob Mann Risø National Laboratory Denmark

2 Motivation Ãij properties LES context What can 3D-PTV contribute?
so far: HPIV, 2D PIV, DNS Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

3 How to get Ãij from points?
Motivation 1 Technical 1/4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

4 Particle seeding, scales?
How dense can we track?? How fast can we record?? D=? Motivation 1 Technical 2/4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 current seeding range: ½-1½ L h L current Rel : 170, L/ h ~200

5 How many points? Motivation 1 Technical 3/4 Properties 5
Multi particles 6 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

6 Convergence If we take more than 12 particles then it is ok
Motivation 1 Technical 4/4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 If we take more than 12 particles then it is ok

7 Orientation of Ãij as f(D)
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 1/6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

8 Time scale t* r~h t*~ t h r> h t*~r2/3 Motivation 1 Technical 4
Properties 2/6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 r~h t*~ t h r> h t*~r2/3

9 Eigenvalues of strain is positive strain production Motivation 1
Technical 4 Properties 3/6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

10 Vorticity alignment with strain, f(D)?
w switches from l2 to l1! Ref to porter paper Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 4/6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 similar observation:

11 RQ Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 5/6 Multi particles 5
Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

12 RQ in mean strain Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6/6
Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

13 Multi particle constellations
g1 g2 g3 I2=g2/R2 g1 g2 g3 w=2A/R2 Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 1/5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 gi=eigenvalues of moment of inertia tensor gab

14 Growth Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 2/5
Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

15 Description of shape evolution
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 3/5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

16 Alignment to strain Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6
Multi particles 4/5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

17 Significant small scale contribution
total total large scales large scales Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5/5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 Significant contribution from small scales!

18 Definition of SGS TKE production rate1, or ’energy flux’
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 1/5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1 Also referred to as: energy flux SGS dissipation

19 Energy flux from DNS Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6
Multi particles 5 Energy flux 2/5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

20 Energy flux from Experiment
None homogeneous forcing Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 3/5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

21 Alignment of tij with sij
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 4/5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

22 Alignm. of tij with sij for ’backscatter’
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5/5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1

23 Smagorinsky, non-linear, mixed, …
scalar eddy viscosity: related to strain no backscatter possible stable tensor eddy viscosity: related to strain and vorticity production allows for ’backscatter’ is instable Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 1/7 Conclusion 1

24 Testing the non-linear model for flux
Experiment DNS Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 2/7 Conclusion 1

25 RQ mapping of energy flux
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 3/7 Conclusion 1

26 RQ mapping for error Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6
Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 4/7 Conclusion 1

27 Alternative mapping: wiwjsij-sijsjkski
How to find distinct regions for positive and negative fluxes? Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 5/7 Conclusion 1

28 Alternative mapping: wiwjsij-sijsjkski
How to find distinct regions for positive and negative fluxes? Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 6/7 Conclusion 1

29 Alternative mapping: Q-sss and s2-sss
Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7/7 Conclusion 1

30 Conclusion perform more experiments measure Ãij and tij
flows with complex mean strain because with 3D-PTV we can Motivation 1 Technical 4 Properties 6 Multi particles 5 Energy flux 5 Flux modelling 7 Conclusion 1


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