1. TGn Opening Report Nov 2004 04/1218 r0
July 2004
doc.: IEEE /0658r0
November 2004
TGn Opening Report Nov /1218 r0
Bruce Kraemer, Chair
Garth Hillman, Secretary
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2. November 2004
Administrative Intro
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3. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
July 2004
doc.: IEEE /0658r0
November 2004 1.
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – May 2004
6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either:
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
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4. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
November 2004 1.
Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,
contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at
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5. Attendance & Voting Status
November 2004
Attendance & Voting Status
Use 802wirelessworld to register attendance
If you encounter Attendance Issues during the session send an to Harry Worstell –
Questions on Voting status – see Harry Worstell –
Make sure your badges are correct
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6. 802.11 Agenda – November 14-19 ‘04 November 2004
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7. November 2004
Quick Review
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8. September Summary Good news 32 presentations completed
November 2004
September Summary
Good news
32 presentations completed
Because the presentations did not fill every available meeting minute there was adequate time to caucus and, at least tentatively, explore possible mergers which would result in new completes or revised completes.
Bad News
Complete presentations did not have adequate time to present or answer audience questions.
Not enough time to conduct panel discussion or additional selection steps.
Not known how many completes will exist in November
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9. September Minutes 04/0983r3 November 2004
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10. November 2004
Approve Minutes
Motion to approve minutes of the September session contained in document r3
Move:
Second:
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11. November 2004
Plan for the Week
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12. TGn - November Schedule
Primary Activities: Presentations, Q&A, Low hurdle vote
Meeting Room: Regency Center 1st session only then - Gonzales Convention Center C
Nov 15
Nov 16
Nov 17
Nov 18
Nov 19
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
8:00-10:00 X 2
10:30-12:30 4
1:30-3:30 6 12 16
4:00-6:00 8 14 18
7:30-9:30 10
Move
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13. Lunch Options Breaks will be supplied as usual.
November 2004
Lunch Options
Breaks will be supplied as usual.
There are a couple small shops inside the convention center
There is a Tower of the Americas top restaurant immediately south.
Marriott is immediately north across Market street.
River center mall is just north of the Marriott.
Hilton is at the west end of the Convention center across Alamo St
How many would be interested in a box lunch, for purchase, brought to the conference room? [Tuesday only]
Topic will be reviewed again before 10:00 break.
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14. November Agenda Logic Sequence of events
Dispose of administrative affairs
Review partial proposals and conduct Q&A panel
Submitted questions first
Receive technical papers submitted to facilitate comparison
Review complete proposals and conduct Q&A
More than one round
Hold panel discussion
Conduct low hurdle vote
Discuss January plans in some detail before session close
Any remaining presentations
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15. TGn - November Schedule
Meeting Room: Regency Center
Primary Activities for November: Presentations, Q&A, Low hurdle vote
Nov 15
Nov 16
Nov 17
Nov 18
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
8:00-10:00 X
Intro
Partials - Summaries
.19 liaison
10:30-12:30
Partials – Q&A Panel
1:30-3:30
Comparison Presentations Complete proposals
Presentations + Q&A
Complete proposals Presentations + Q&A
Final panel
Low Hurdle Vote
4:00-6:00
Complete proposals
Q&A Panel
Plans for January
Other Presentations
7:30-9:30
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16. November 2004
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17. Partial Proposal questions
November 2004
Partial Proposal questions
Submitted by
Joseph Levy
Questions for:
ETRI, Icefyre, Infocomm, Motorola, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, ST Micro
Pratik Mehta
All
Process: We will cycle thru the authors of questions. Each will select from their list the next question they would like to ask and indicate to whom the question is being directed.
Upon completion, but within the 2 hour time slot, we will open the floor for additional questions.
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18. Comparison Presentations
November 2004
Comparison Presentations
04/1400 r2 John Egan, Rodger Tseng, Albert Liu : Infineon
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19. Complete Proposals – Presentation and Q&A Process
November 2004
Complete Proposals – Presentation and Q&A Process
Each of the four proposals will be provided
1 hour blocks
1st block primarily presentation
Second and subsequent 1 hour blocks presentation as needed then extended Q&A
Rounds limited to time available Tuesday and Wednesday.
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20. Complete Proposal – Document updates
November 2004
Complete Proposal – Document updates
xxx
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21. Complete Proposal – Questions
November 2004
Complete Proposal – Questions
Submitted by
John Benko
TGnSync, Qualcomm, WWISE
Pratik Mehta
All
Joseph Levy
TGnSync, WWISE, Qualcomm
Chris Hansen
TGnSync
Paul Feinberg
WWISE
Process: One Author group will be on stage at a time. We will cycle thru the authors of questions. Each will select from their list the next question they would like to ask.
Upon completion, but within the 2 hour time slot, we will open the floor for additional questions.
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22. November 2004
r9 extract
Presenters of each complete proposal shall be given the opportunity to make a final 5 minute statement to the group advocating their proposals just before the down selection voting starts. An elimination vote shall then be taken to remove proposals having little support within the task group. Each voting member shall cast a single ballot and vote to further consider or not to consider each individual proposal. The task group shall eliminate from consideration all proposals that do not obtain at least 25% support of the ballots cast.
In the sample ballot shown below, a single registered voter has voted for Proposals A, B, and C to continue to be under consideration and Proposals D and E to no longer be under consideration.
Note: One vote per column per voter is required for a valid ballot
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23. Low Hurdle Vote Schedule
November 2004
Low Hurdle Vote Schedule
How best to schedule?
Occurs after completion of presentation, Q&A and panel steps for complete proposals
Could be placed on agenda as general order or special order
General order, we vote when prior business completed
Special order, we vote at a specified time
Chair Recommendation: Fix time on Thursday
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24. Low Hurdle vote - Poll Straw poll
November 2004
Low Hurdle vote - Poll
Straw poll
Should TGn set the final panel presentation and low hurdle ballot as a special order event on 1:30 pm Thursday Nov 18?
Yes, make it a special order agenda item
No, make it a general order agenda item
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25. Low Hurdle Vote Process
November 2004
Low Hurdle Vote Process
Low hurdle vote
Paper ballot will be used
one issued to each voting member who wishes to vote
handed out in room at start of ballot process
Name checked against voters list
Returned votes checked again
Chair recommends that simple tally is recorded and reported e.g.
The preparation and processing time for a roll call vote is significantly greater than that for a simple tally. The officers need to prepare agenda time and staff support accordingly.
Alternatively, for a roll call vote , the contents of each ballot will be recorded for each voter and the results posted as an Excel spreadsheet.
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26. November 2004
Roll Call Voting
Like any procedural issue, request can be posed by any voting member.
Request then requires approval by members but not the usual 50% or 75%
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27. Roll Call Voting – LMSC Procedure
November 2004
Roll Call Voting – LMSC Procedure
QUOTE FROM 802 LMSC P&P – Revised July 16th,
Roll Call Votes
A roll call vote may be held at the discretion of the chair.
A roll call vote may be called for by any member of the group, without obtaining the floor, at any time after the question has been put, even after the vote has been announced and another has the floor and it is called for before another motion has been made. The call does not require a second, and cannot be debated, amended, or have any other subsidiary motion applied to it.
Upon a call for a roll call vote, the chair shall proceed according to these three options.
1. The chair may hold the vote
2. The chair may hold a vote on the question of whether to hold a roll call vote. This vote must achieve greater than 25% of the members voting Yes to pass. The 25% is counted by dividing the count of Yes votes by the sum of the Yes and No votes. This vote is not subject to a roll call vote.
3. The chair may refuse the request for a roll call vote if this privilege is being abused by members repeatedly calling for a roll call vote. The chair shall allow both the majority and minority reasonable and fair use of the roll call vote.
Each roll call vote and call for a roll call vote shall be recorded in minutes of the meeting. For each roll call vote, the minutes shall include each member’s name, their vote and the final result of the vote. For each call for a roll call vote, the minutes shall include:
i. The name of the requestor of the roll call vote.
ii. The decision of the chair on the request and, when applicable, the results of the vote on whether to hold the roll call or the reasons of the chair for denying the roll call vote.
END of QUOTE FROM 802 LMSC P&P – Revised July 16th,
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28. Roll Call Voting – TGn Procedure
November 2004
Roll Call Voting – TGn Procedure
Derived from 802 LMSC P&P – Revised July 16th,
Roll Call Votes
A roll call vote may be held at the discretion of the chair.
A roll call vote may be called for by any member of the group, without obtaining the floor, at any time after the question has been put, even after the vote has been announced and another has the floor and it is called for before another motion has been made. The call does not require a second, and cannot be debated, amended, or have any other subsidiary motion applied to it.
Upon a call for a roll call vote, the chair shall proceed according to the following:
The chair will hold a vote on the question of whether to hold a roll call vote. This vote must achieve greater than 25% of the members voting Yes to pass. The 25% is counted by dividing the count of Yes votes by the sum of the Yes and No votes. This vote is not subject to a roll call vote.
Each roll call vote and call for a roll call vote shall be recorded in minutes of the meeting. For each roll call vote, the minutes shall include each member’s name, their vote and the final result of the vote.
For each call for a roll call vote, the minutes shall include:
i. The name of the requestor of the roll call vote.
ii. The decision of the chair on the request and, when applicable, the results of the vote on whether to hold the roll call or the reasons of the chair for denying the roll call vote.
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29. Low Hurdle vote - Poll Straw poll
November 2004
Low Hurdle vote - Poll
Straw poll
In favor of simple tally letter ballot
In favor of a recorded letter ballot
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30. November 2004
Adjust Agenda
If needed recess briefly to adjust agenda to incorporate results of previous discussion and polls.
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31. TGn - November Schedule
Primary Activities for November: Presentations, Q&A, Low hurdle vote
Nov 15
Nov 16
Nov 17
Nov 18
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
8:00-10:00 X
Intro
Partials - Summaries
.19 liaison
10:30-12:30
Partials – Q&A Panel
1:30-3:30
Comparison Presentations Complete proposals
Presentations + Q&A
Complete proposals Presentations + Q&A
Final panel
Low Hurdle Vote
4:00-6:00
Complete proposals
Plans for January
Other Presentations
7:30-9:30
Meeting Room: Regency Center
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32. Approve Agenda Motion to approve agenda as contained on previous slide
November 2004
Approve Agenda
Motion to approve agenda as contained on previous slide
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33. Partial Proposal Speaker Logistics
November 2004
Partial Proposal Speaker Logistics
All representatives of partials will convene at the front of the room
Each speaker is allocated a two minutes to offer highlights
This will transition to a Panel discussion
Prepared questions will be addressed to the authors
Remaining time will be used to receive questions from the floor
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34. November 2004
End
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