1. TGn Chairs’ Report Denver, CO, US 802 Plenary – 14-18 July ‘08
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TGn Chairs’ Report Denver, CO, US 802 Plenary – July ‘08
Date:
Authors:
Name
Company
Address
Phone
5488 Marvell Lane,
Santa Clara, CA, 95054
+1 (321)
Bruce Kraemer
Marvell
marvell
.com
Sheung Li
SiBEAM
+1 (408)
555 Mathilda Ave,
Sunnyvale, CA 94085
Adrian Stephens
Intel Corporation
15 JJ Thompson
+1 (503)
intel.com
Avenue, Cambridge,
CB3 0FD, UK
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2. Primary Meeting Documents
July 2008
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Primary Meeting Documents
Chair’s Opening Report r0
Chair’s Closing Report r0
Meeting Minutes r0
Editor’s Reports r1
n-tgn-lb129-composite-comments.xls
n-tgn-lb129-editor-comments.xls
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3. July 2008
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Welcome to the Hyatt Regency Denver July The 110th Session and The 30th TGn Session
TGn Meeting rooms
Mon
Tue
Wed
Thu
Capital 1+2
(150)
Capital 1
(80)
Capital 2
(70)
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4. July 2008
Meeting Protocol
Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot
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5. Register Indicate attendance Attendance
July 2008
Attendance
Register
Indicate attendance
See document r0 for more details
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6. Attendance, Voting & Document Status
July 2008
Attendance, Voting & Document Status
Make sure your badges are correct
If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising
Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area
see Adrian Stephens –
Cell Phones Silent or Off
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7. Current Policies July 2008 Policies and Procedures:
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Current Policies
Policies and Procedures:
IEEE Patent Policy -
Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.
Affiliation FAQ -
Anti-Trust FAQ -
Ethics -
IEEE Policies and Procedures -
IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures -
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8. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
July 2008
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
Slide #1
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9. July 2008
Patent Related Links
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
Slide #2
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10. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
July 2008
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
Slide #3
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11. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
July 2008
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
Slide #4
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12. July 2008
Question
Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard?
Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.
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13. July 2008
TGn Minutes
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14. July 2008
TGn Minutes of May ’ r1
Executive Summary (also see Chairs’ meeting doc r0 and closing report doc r0):
Draft 4.0 passed recirculation ballot LB124 with 253 approve, 34 not approve, 25 abstain
All 349 comments from LB124 were resolved
The task group requested that the working group issue a recirculation ballot on D5.0 based on the approved resolutions
There were no further modifications of the timeline from the changes made in the March 2008 meeting
The task group is targeting July for an ad hoc meeting to resolve comments from the recirculation ballot on D5.0. The details will be finalized during the previously approved teleconference calls.
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15. July 2008
Approve Minutes
Motion to approve May ‘08 (Jacksonville) TGn minutes as contained in r1
Move:
Second:
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16. TGn Quick Review of Events prior to this meeting
July 2008
TGn Quick Review of Events prior to this meeting
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17. One Page History of TGn July 2008
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One Page History of TGn
HTSG formed – First meeting (Sep-11-’02 Monterey)
TGn formed – First meeting (Sep-15-’03 Singapore)
Began call for proposals (May 17 ’04 Garden Grove)
32 First round presentations (Sep 13 ’04 Berlin)
Down selected to one proposal (Mar ’05 Atlanta) –first confirm vote failed
Confirmation vote #2 failed - reset to 3 proposals -left the May ‘05 meeting with a serious deadlock. (Cairns)
3 proposal groups agreed to a joint proposal activity (Jul ’05 San Francisco)
JP proposal accepted by vote of 184/0/4, editor instructed to create draft (Jan ’06 Waikoloa)
Baseline specification converted into Draft 1.0 (335p). Letter ballot issued (LB84) March 20, ’06 (Denver) and closed on April 29, ‘06 (failed)
Draft 1.0 Comment resolution begins (May ’06 Jacksonville)
Approved 6711 editorial and 1041 technical resolutions; Created Draft (Jul ’06 San Diego)
Approved 568 technical resolutions (Sep ’06 Melbourne); Created Draft 1.06 (388p)
Approved 703 technical resolutions (Nov ’06 Dallas); Created Draft 1.09 (444p)
Approved 496 technical resolutions (Jan ’07 London); created D (500p); went to WG letter ballot Feb 7, ’07 with D 2.0; closed March 9, ’07
LB97 on TGn D2.0 passed with 83.4% approval. (Mar ’07 Orlando) Began comment resolution on with target of Draft 3.0 completion and release to ballot in Sep ’07.
Approved 1470 editorial resolutions and approved TGn draft Also approved 450 technical comment resolutions. (May 07 Montreal) Cumulative insertion of resolutions contained in TGn draft (494p)
Approved 750 technical resolutions and approved TGn draft (July 07 San Francisco) Cumulative insertion of resolutions now contained in TGn draft (498p)
Approved 507 technical resolutions and approved recirculation ballot for TGn draft 3.0 (544p). (Sep 07 Waikoloa) Recirculation passed.
Approved 282 editorial resolutions and approved TGn draft Approved 97 technical resolutions. (Nov 07 Atlanta) Cumulative insertion of resolutions now contained in TGn draft (558p)
Approved 313 technical comment resolutions (Jan ‘08 Taipei). Cumulative approved comments now in D3.03. Additional ad hoc comment resolutions contained in speculative edits D3.04, D3.05, D3.06.
Approved 190 technical comment resolutions (Mar ’08 Orlando). Approved recirculation ballot for TGn draft 4.0 (547p).
Approved 349 comment resolutions (May ’08 Jacksonville). Approved recirculation ballot (LB129) for TGn draft 5.0 (547p). Ballot closed June 12 with 1112 comments.
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18. Passed with 261Approve, 29 Not Approve, 23 Abstain
July 2008
LB129 on TGn D5.0
20 day Recirculation ballot closed on June 12
Passed with 261Approve, 29 Not Approve, 23 Abstain
539 Technical, 573 Editorial (1112 Total) Comments
539 Technical split
Beam 26
Coex 146
PHY 83
Gen
Misc 126
MAC 100
Editor has posted a speculative D5.01 based on resolutions in r0
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19. TGn LB129 Technical Comment Distribution
July 2008
TGn LB129 Technical Comment Distribution
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20. TGn Ad Hoc Organization
July 2008
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TGn Ad Hoc Organization
Ad Hoc Topic
Ad hoc leader
In Denver
ad hoc?
In Denver plenary?
PHY
Vinko Erceg
Yes
MAC
Matt Fischer
Coexistence
Eldad Perahia
General
Joe Levy No
Beamforming & Adaptation
John Ketchum
Joonsuk Kim
TGn
Bruce Kraemer
Editorial
Adrian Stephens
CA Doc
Sheung Li
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21. July 2008
July
TGn
Agenda
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22. WG11 – Jul ‘08 Schedule am1 am2 pm1 pm2 July 2008
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23. Agenda Plan and Topics Primary topic: Comment Resolution
July 2008
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Agenda Plan and Topics
Primary topic: Comment Resolution
General Order – TGn Full with topics introduced by ad hoc where appropriate, consider reverting to ad hoc when full business complete
Monday – TGn summary, ad hoc status and comment resolution discussions
Editor Motions
Tuesday – Discussion and Votes
Wednesday – Discussion and Votes
Thursday - Voting on prepared comment resolutions
Timeline review
Plans
Teleconferences
Approval of ad hoc in Hawaii during September ‘08
Any other Business for the agenda?
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24. TGn – Jul ‘08 Schedule Jul 14 Jul 15 Jul 16 Jul 17 Time Monday Tuesday
July 2008
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TGn – Jul ‘08 Schedule
Jul 14
Jul 15
Jul 16
Jul 17
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
am 1
8:00-10:00 X
TGn 1
CAP 2
Full TGn
am 2
10:30-12:30
TGn 1+2
CAP 1
lunch
12:30-13:30
pm 1
13:30-15:30
pm 2
16:00-18:00
CAP 1+2
eve
19:30-21:30
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25. CAP = Capitol (4th floor)
July 2008
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CAP = Capitol (4th floor)
TGn – Jul ‘08 Schedule
Jul 14
Jul 15
Jul 16
Jul 17
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
am 1
8:00-10:00
TGn 1 GEN
CAP 2
TGn 1 Gen
Full TGn (GEN + MAC) CAP 2
am 2
10:30-12:30
TGn 1+2
PHY CAP 1
MAC CAP 2 X
lunch
12:30-13:30
pm 1
13:30-15:30
Full TGn
PHY
MAC
CAP 1
TGn 1
COEX 40 in 2.4
CCA, GF
pm 2
16:00-18:00
Opening + intro
CAP 1+2
eve
19:30-21:30
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Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

26. July 2008
Approve Agenda
Motion to approve July ’08 TGn agenda as contained on slide (with any minuted amendments).
Move:
Second:
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27. July 2008
Thursday topics Plans from May to July Time Line Ad hoc meeting Teleconferences
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28. Currently Published Date
July 2008
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Timeline Events
Event Name
Currently Published Date
Actual
Predicted
PAR Approved
Sep ‘03
Initial WG Letter Ballot
Mar ‘06
Recirculation WG Letter Ballot
Oct ‘07
Form Sponsor Ballot Pool
Jul ‘08
Initial Sponsor Ballot
Recirculation Sponsor Ballot
Nov ‘08
Final WG Approval
Mar ‘09
Final EC Approval
RevCom/ Stds Board Approval
Jun ‘09
Publication
Jul ‘09
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29. TGn Teleconference Plan
July 2008
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TGn Teleconference Plan
Call time: 11:00 – 13:00 ET
Call number:
Wednesday
Blocking events
Ad hoc group
Meeting chair
Bridge #
Passcode
July 16
Plenary
Sep 23
Interim
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30. July 2008
Ad hoc in September 2008
Request authorization for TGn to hold an ad hoc
on Dates TBD
in Hawaii, US
with the venue of choice being the 802 Interim conference hotel (Hilton Waikoloa)
for the purpose of resolving comments received during LB1xx on Draft 6.0
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31. End of Chair's Opening Report
July 2008
End of Chair's
Opening Report
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32. Technical Editor Report 792r1
July 2008
Technical Editor
Report
792r1
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33. July 2008
ad hoc Reports
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34. July 2008
Any other business?
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35. July 2008
Recess
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36. TGn Tuesday pm1 update July 2008 July 2008 doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0748r3
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37. Tuesday Agenda Outline
July 2008
Tuesday Agenda Outline
Motions on comment resolutions prepared by ad hocs
Task Group discussion topics
Convert meeting to ad hoc to prepare resolutions
PHY
MAC
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38. Resolution Spreadsheet
July 2008
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Tuesday Motions
Ad hoc
Motions
CID
count
Resolution Spreadsheet
Report Doc
Beam 1 7
737r2
808r1
Coex 3
718r3
778r2
Gen
851r0
PHY
800r1
797r0
MAC
744r5
745r5
Editor
Draft 5.02
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39. CAP = Capitol (4th floor)
July 2008
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CAP = Capitol (4th floor)
TGn – Jul ‘08 Schedule
Jul 14
Jul 15
Jul 16
Jul 17
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
am 1
8:00-10:00
TGn 1 GEN
CAP 2
TGn 1 Gen
Full TGn (GEN + MAC) CAP 2
am 2
10:30-12:30
TGn 1+2
PHY CAP 1
MAC CAP 2 X
lunch
12:30-13:30
pm 1
13:30-15:30
Full TGn
PHY
MAC
CAP 1
TGn 1
COEX 40 in 2.4
CCA, GF
pm 2
16:00-18:00
Opening + intro
CAP 1+2
GEN
eve
19:30-21:30
Social
6:30 Centennial
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Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

40. July 2008
Recess
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41. TGn Wednesday pm2 update
July 2008
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TGn
Wednesday pm2
update
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Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

42. CAP = Capitol (4th floor) Full TGn (WG19, votes + MAC) CAP 2
July 2008
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CAP = Capitol (4th floor)
TGn – Jul ‘08 Schedule
Jul 14
Jul 15
Jul 16
Jul 17
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
am 1
8:00-10:00
TGn 1 GEN
CAP 2
TGn 1 Gen
Full TGn (WG19, votes + MAC) CAP 2
am 2
10:30-12:30
TGn 1+2
PHY CAP 1
MAC CAP 2 X
lunch
12:30-13:30
pm 1
13:30-15:30
Full TGn
PHY
MAC
CAP 1
TGn 1
COEX 40 in 2.4
CCA, GF
pm 2
16:00-18:00
Opening + intro
CAP 1+2
GEN
eve
19:30-21:30
Social
6:30 Centennial
Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

43. Wednesday Agenda Outline
July 2008
Wednesday Agenda Outline
Motions on comment resolutions prepared by ad hocs
Task Group discussion topics
Convert meeting to ad hoc to prepare resolutions
GEN most likely
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44. Resolution Spreadsheet
July 2008
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Wednesday Motions
Ad hoc
Motions
CID
count
Resolution Spreadsheet
Report Doc
Beam
737r3
808r2
Coex
1 P
718r4
778r3
Gen
4 P
851r2
892r0
PHY
800r3
797r1
MAC 1 2
744r6
745r6
Editor
Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

45. Discussion Topics 11-08-0819 Slot Timing Tomo 15 min
July 2008
Discussion Topics
Slot Timing Tomo 15 min
r7 GF DFS Doug 15 min
WG19
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46. July 2008
Recess
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47. TGn Thursday am1 update July 2008 July 2008
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TGn
Thursday am1
update
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48. CAP = Capitol (4th floor) Full TGn (WG19, votes + MAC) CAP 2
July 2008
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CAP = Capitol (4th floor)
TGn – Jul ‘08 Schedule
Jul 14
Jul 15
Jul 16
Jul 17
Time
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
am 1
8:00-10:00
TGn 1 GEN
CAP 2
TGn 1 Gen
Full TGn (WG19, votes + MAC) CAP 2
am 2
10:30-12:30
TGn 1+2
PHY CAP 1
MAC CAP 2 X
lunch
12:30-13:30
pm 1
13:30-15:30
Full TGn
PHY
MAC
CAP 1
TGn 1
COEX 40 in 2.4
CCA, GF
pm 2
16:00-18:00
Opening + intro
CAP 1+2
GEN
eve
19:30-21:30
Social
6:30 Centennial
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Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

49. Thursday am1 Agenda Outline
July 2008
Thursday am1 Agenda Outline
1. Discussion on 2.4 GHz Coexistence with WG19
2. Motions on comment resolutions prepared by ad hocs
Task Group discussion topics
3. ad hoc preparation of resolutions
MAC most likely
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50. Resolution Spreadsheet
July 2008
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Thursday Motions
Ad hoc
Motions
CID
count
Resolution Spreadsheet
Report Doc
Beam
737r3
808r2
Coex 1
718r4
778r3
Gen
851r2
892r0
PHY
800r3
797r1
MAC
744r6
745r6
Editor
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Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)

51. Discussion Topics 11-08-0819 Slot Timing Tomo 15 min
July 2008
Discussion Topics
Slot Timing Tomo 15 min
r7 GF DFS Doug 15 min
WG19
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52. July 2008
Recess
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