1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
March 2018 Meeting
Rosemont, Illinois, USA
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
28 Voting Members
Agenda:
Meetings for the Week
Tuesday PM
Wednesday PM
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3. Agenda – 802.24-18-006r2 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Agenda - March 2018, Rosemont, IL 1
Tuesday PM2 session
1.1
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey 5
4:00 PM
1.2
Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda
4:05 PM
1.3
Approve January TAG minutes
4:10 PM
1.4
Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting
4:15 PM
1.5
TAG Chair / Vice Chair Elections
Godfrey/Rolfe 20
4:20 PM
1.6
Smart Grid Task Group
4:40 PM
1.7
ITU and regulatory items
Godfrey/Holcomb 10
1.8
Liaison Update (IEEE 802 Liaison tutorial.pdf)
4:50 PM
1.9
Review Liaison response to IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force: "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System"
5:10 PM
1.10
802.11ah and g (SUN) coexistence (follow up) 15
5:30 PM
1.11
Recess
5:45 PM 2
Wednesday PM2 session
2.1
Call to Order IoT Task Group
DiMinico
2.2
Liaison Coordinator's Report
Diab
2.3
Review of IoT white paper development 40
2.4
Presentation on 802.1CF OmniRan for vertical applications
Riegel
5:00 PM
2.5
New Action Items, AOB
5:20 PM
2.6
5:35 PM 3
Thursday PM2 session
3.1
Call to Order
3.2
Review comments and feedback from IEEE editors on Sub 1-GHz white paper
3.3
New project and activities review
3.4
Development and Editing of TSN White Paper 30
3.5
TAG Closing and AOB
3.6
3.7
Meet with TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization (18:00 Meeting time based on TSN Schedule)
Godfrey / Farkos
6:00 PM
3.8
Adjourn
6:30 PM
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7. Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve January minutes
TAG Action Items from January:
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8. 802.24 TAG: Election of Officers
Procedure in Operations Manual document
Announced Candidates
Tim Godfrey (Chair)
Ben Rolfe (Vice Chair)
Election of Chair
Vote: 7/0/0
Election of Vice Chair
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9. Coordination with Industry Connections:
Regularly examine (or liaison with) IC Committee to determine if we want to be involved with any existing IC activities.
Plan of action: Check in by regularly (before plenary meetings) on status with the IC Committee
Ongoing Activity: IEEE 802 Network Enhancements Industry Connections Activity
Tuesday 7:30pm
New IC Activity at this meeting:
None known
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

10. Tuesday
Smart Grid TG
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11. ITU and Radio Regulatory Items
New NPRM for 90 GHz to 3 THz
No action required
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

12. Liaison Update Request
Request from Jodi Haasz at IEEE to update active liaison relationships
Review document “IEEE 802 Liaison tutorial.pdf”
SGIP / SEPA
IEEE PES: PSCC TF S6
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

13. IEEE PSCC TF S6
January 2018 Study Report – "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication Systems“
TAG comments from January meeting are posted
“IEEE Jan 2018 Liaison Comments to PSCC-S6-Liaison.doc”
In private area
Further review and edits today
Forward our final comments back to PSCC S6 following this session
Document will remain open for comment from until April 15. If no comments, chair will return to TF S6 prior to their May meeting. Chair can adopt any editorial comments before returning.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

14. g and ah Coexistence
Review activity in and any follow up
Plan for joint sessions with as this activity proceeds.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

15. Wednesday IoT TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

16. Tuesday: 802.24.2 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report
Wael Diab (not in attendance – no report)
Pending liaison requests
Explore liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Group.
will initiate the liaison request
Draft a formal liaison statement with areas of collaboration and exchange.
Point of contact: IoT Market Segment Task Group
Challenges – information exchange will need to be cleared of default confidentiality of WFA documents.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

17. Liaison Update Request
Request from Jodi Haasz at IEEE to update active liaison relationships
Review document “IEEE 802 Liaison tutorial.pdf”
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

18. 802.24.2 Presentation Chris DiMinico (Panduit)
IoT-SPE-applications-white-paper
Single Pair Ethernet in IoT Applications
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

19. IEEE PSCC TF S6
Added text to S6 liaison response regarding PODL for in-home IoT applications
Updated response uploaded to private area
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

20. Thursday Smart Grid TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

21. Presentation IEEE P802.1CF for vertical applications Source:
IEEE OmniRAN TG
Chair: Max Riegel (Nokia Bell Labs)
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

22. Sub 1 GHz White Paper
Comments and Questions from IEEE Editors prior to publication
Review “ TAG white paper_edits.docx”
Questions from Catherine Berger
Started addressing comments and questions
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

23. TSN Utility Use Cases
Further editing of first section describing utility use cases
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

24. Continue developing white paper
Review and editing of draft
Updated document r11 uploaded to Mentor.
Will announce comment collection to and TSN
Teleconference planned for June 14, 10am EDT.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

25. 802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business?
Announce comment collection and teleconference for TSN White Paper
Any New Business?
None
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

26. Joint Meeting with 802.1 TSN Thursday, March 8, 18:00
Tim Godfrey, EPRI