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TGax MAC Ad-hoc July 2017 Meeting Agenda
May 2017 TGax MAC Ad-hoc July 2017 Meeting Agenda Date: July 10-15, 2017 Authors: Name Company Address Phone Chao-Chun Wang MediaTek San Jose, Ca Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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IEEE 802.11 TGax High Efficiency WLAN MAC Ad Hoc
May 2017 IEEE TGax High Efficiency WLAN MAC Ad Hoc Chairs: Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Agenda Items May 2017 Call meeting to order
Patent policy, etc. (Call for Potentially Essential Patents) Call for submissions Set and approve agenda Note ad hoc rules Slides 13-14 Note total 7MAC ad hoc sessions this week Monday PM2, Tuesday AM2, PM2, EVE Wednesday PM1 and PM2 Thursday AM1 Approve previous ad hoc session and telecon minutes Typically TGax Full Technical Presentations approved by ax chair for presentation this week, and related straw polls Any other technical presentations Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Meeting Protocol, Attendance, Voting & Document Status
May 2017 Meeting Protocol, Attendance, Voting & Document Status Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Cell Phones to be silent or Off Register your attendance via while on a meeting SSID (e.g. Verilan-secure) Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission, be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, Member’s Area Contact Jon Rosdahl – Slide 4 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Patent Policy and Other Guidelines
May 2017 Patent Policy and Other Guidelines See the following 5 slides Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Instructions for the WG Chair
May 2017 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
May 2017 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
May 2017 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2017 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
May 2017 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Submissions (MAC) May 2017 DCN Title Author (Affiliation) ad hoc
11-17/0389 CIDs-for part1 Kaiying Lv (ZTE Corp.) MAC 11-17/0533 lb225-cr-27_16_1 Yongho Seok (MediaTek) 11-17/0553 LB225 11ax D1.0 Comment Resolution Part 1 Liwen Chu (Marvell) 11-17/0693 Quiet Time Period- part 1 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) 11-17/0759 text for 812 Jason 11-17/0812 Trigger-frame-for-random-access 11-17/1060 CID 6053 Jeongki Kim 11-17/0925 CR on HE Duration-based RTS Huizhao Wang (Quantenna Communications) 11-17/0926 cr-HE-MCS-NSS-not-supported Matthew Fischer (Broadcom Limited) 11-17/1052 MAC-CR-HE MCS_NSS resolutions Alfred Asterjadhi (Qualcomm Inc.) 11-17/0957 lb225 MAC CR on fragmentation Suhwook Kim (LG) 11-17/1002 LB225-MAC-CR-on-HCF Suhwook Kim(LG Electronics) 11-17/1009 quiet time period - part 3 ( x) Chao-Chun Wang (mediaTek) 11-17/1010 Quiet Time Period - Part 4 ( ) 11-17/1011 Quiet Time Period - Part 5 ( x) 11-17/1014 lb225-cr-on-association-exchange-using-dl-ofdma Stephane Baron (Canon) 11-17/1023 lb225-cr 11-17/1031 Remaining CIDs for laurent cariou (Intel) 11-17/1032 CIDs in Abhishek Patil (Qualcomm) 11-17/1062 CID 9958 11-17/1034 Quiet Time Period - Part 6 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Submissions (MAC) May 2017 11-17/1044 CRs for ack related CIDs
George Cherian (Qualcomm) MAC 11-17/1046 comment resolution for CID 7043 Kaiying Lv (ZTE Corp.) 11-17/1049 Target RSSI field laurent cariou (Intel) 11-17/1053 MAC-CR-Remaining CIDs in OM Control Alfred Asterjadhi (Qualcomm Inc.) 11-17/1054 lb225-cr presentation Frank Hsu, Yongho Seok (MediaTek) 11-17/1055 lb225-cr-cid7407 Yongho Seok (MediaTek) 11-17/1060 CR on CID 6053 Jeongki Kim (LG Electronics) 11-17/1067 comment-resolution of OMI, Operation Mode Liwen Chu (Marvell) 11-17/1068 comment-resolution-10.7 11-17/1069 LB225 11ax D1.0 Comment Resolution 9.7.3 11-17/1070 CR for CID5863 Kiseon Ryu (LG Electronics) 11-17/1072 Remaining OMI comment resolutions Jarkko Kneckt (Apple) 11-17/1077 CR for and Part III Po-Kai Huang (Intel) 11-17/1081 Comment resolutions for HE NDP Announcement frame Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) 11-17/1082 Comment resolutions for BRP and BSRP trigger frames 11-17/1087 MAC-CR-CIDs 11-17/1088 Editorial fix 11-17/1091 Proposed resolution for comments related to CIDs in Jing Ma (NICT) 11-17/811 Jarkko (APPLE) Green: Completed with at least one passing pre-Motion or presentation only Red: Completed with no passing pre-Motion Blue: Partially completed presentation Brown: Deferred: Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Ad Hoc Groups Operation (1/2) Governing document is 15/075r0
May 2017 Ad Hoc Groups Operation (1/2) Governing document is 15/075r0 Proposed changes to the specification framework shall be discussed in the ad hoc groups first, which are then brought to the Taskgroup for an approval vote. A straw poll (doesn’t require voting rights) result of >=75% is required within an Ad Hoc to approve the resolution of all or part of an issue and forward that resolved item to the Taskgroup where it becomes a motion that requires >=75% approval to modify the specification framework or the draft specification. The straw poll affection the TG specification framework shall include Do you agree to add to the TG Specification Framework: x.y.z. [brief description of the feature] In the case a consensus can not be reached within an Ad Hoc group (a stalemate that prohibits further progress), the subject is moved to the Taskgroup if an Ad Hoc straw poll vote to move the subject to the Taskgroup achieves >50% approval. Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Ad Hoc Groups Operation (2/2) Governing document is 15/075r0
May 2017 Ad Hoc Groups Operation (2/2) Governing document is 15/075r0 A motion passing with >50% in the Taskgroup shall be sufficient to move an issue previously assigned to an Ad Hoc group to any Ad Hoc group. A straw poll vote of >50% is required in an Ad Hoc group to refuse an issue from the Taskgroup. An issue may be sent from one Ad Hoc to another if both the sending Ad Hoc and the receiving Ad Hoc approve straw polls for taking the respective actions with >50% approval. A notice should be sent to the reflector indicating the approval of a straw poll to move an issue. During Taskgroup face to face Plenary and Interim sessions, Chairs for each of the Functional Block Ad Hocs shall report on Progress and Content to the Entire Taskgroup. These Update sessions provide the opportunity for peer review to ensure the creation of a coherent Specification. Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek) Brian Hart (Cisco Systems)
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Straw Poll #1 (11-17-0926-02-00ax-cr-he-mcs-nss-not-supported)
May 2017 Straw Poll #1 ( ax-cr-he-mcs-nss-not-supported) Move to accept resolutions to following CID in ax-cr-he-mcs-nss-not-supported CID:9674 (1) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #2 (11-17-1052-02-00ax-mac-cr-he-mcs-nss-resolutions)
May 2017 Straw Poll #2 ( ax-mac-cr-he-mcs-nss-resolutions) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-mac-cr-he-mcs-nss-resolutions CIDs:4769, 4770, 4932, 5519, 5520, 5525, 5526, 5527, 5528, 5529, 5530, 5531, 5532, 5533, 5534, 5535, 5536, 5537, 5790, 5920, 7560, 7993, 8678, 8679, 8680, 9303, 6433, (28 CIDs) Results: Y - 17/N- 1/A- 4: SP passed Note: Motion on R4 Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #3 (11-17-0957-02-00ax-lb225-mac-cr-on-fragmentation)
May 2017 Straw Poll #3 ( ax-lb225-mac-cr-on-fragmentation) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-lb225-mac-cr-on-fragmentation CIDs : 5361, 5470, 5362, 5927, 8443, 8444, 7075, 7535, 8454, 8456, 9523, 8442, 8455 (CIDs 13) Results: Y - 17 /N- 1/A- 2 : SP passed Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #4 (11-17-1002-02-00ax-lb225-mac-cr-on-hcf.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #4 ( ax-lb225-mac-cr-on-hcf.docx) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-lb225-mac-cr-on-hcf.docx/CIDs 5374, 6034, 5861, 5853 (CIDs 4) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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May 2017 Straw Poll #5 ( ax-lb225-cr-on-association-exchange-using-dl-ofdma.docx) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-lb225-cr-on-association-exchange-using-dl-ofdma.docx /CIDs 4800 (CID 1) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #6 (11-17-1032-03-00ax-cids-in-27-5-2.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #6 ( ax-cids-in docx) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-cids-in docx /CIDs 9901, 5937, 5715, 6066, 9905, 6681, 9530, 9531, 8110, 8060, 9910, 5716, 6067, 9908, 9532, 9909, 7815, (CIDs 18) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #7 (11-17-1062-01-00ax-cid-9958.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #7 ( ax-cid-9958.docx) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-cid-9958.docx /CIDs 9958 ( CID 1) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #8 (11-17-0533-05-00ax-lb225-cr-27-16-1.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #8 ( ax-lb225-cr docx) Move to accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-lb225-cr docx /CIDs 5229, 5522, 5523, 5524, 7576, 7577, 7578, 7579, 7580, 8618, 8619, 8620, 9967 (13 CIDs) Results: Y- 14/N- 0/A- 3: Straw Poll passed Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #9 (11-17-0925-06-00ax-cr-on-he-duration-based-rts)
May 2017 Straw Poll #9 ( ax-cr-on-he-duration-based-rts) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-cr-on-he-duration-based-rts/CIDs 3136, 4834, 5159, 5161 , 5162, 5557, 5560, 5568, 6514, 6515, 7530, 7779, 7781, 7872, 7873, 8208, 8209, 8349, 8350, 8451, 9422, 9686 (CIDs 22) Results: Y 9/N 3/A 12: SP passed Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #10 (11-17-1023-01-00ax-lb225-cr-27-11-3.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #10 ( ax-lb225-cr docx) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-lb225-cr docx /CIDs 5212, 8727, 8726 (3 CIDs) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #11 (11-17-1031-04-00ax-remaining-cids-for-27-5-2-7.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #11 ( ax-remaining-cids-for docx) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-remaining-cids-for docx /CIDs 4805, 5811, 6713, 6714, 6715, 6716, 6717, 6718, 6719, 6720, 7108, 7389, 8283, 8284, 8559, 8707, 9450, 9477, 9534, 9715, 9920, , (CIDs 22) Results: Y/N/A: SP passed Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #12 (11-17-0693-05-00ax-quiet-time-period-part-1)
May 2017 Straw Poll #12 ( ax-quiet-time-period-part-1) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-quiet-time-period-part-1 /CIDs 3038 (CIDs 1) Results: Y 6/N 1/A 11: SP passed Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #13 (11-17-1044-01-00ax-crs-for-ack-related-cids.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #13 ( ax-crs-for-ack-related-cids.docx) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-crs-for-ack-related-cids.docx /CIDs 3047, 3130, 4602, 5048, 5567, 5763, 6128, 6129, 6130, 6173, 6510, 7061, 7063, 7136, 7383, 7665, 8413, 8414, 8542, 9675, 9684, 9685, 9854 (CIDs 23) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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May 2017 Straw Poll #14 ( ax-comment-resolution-on-cid-9333-and-9969) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-comment-resolution-on-cid-9333-and-9969 3215, 9333, 9969 Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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Straw Poll #15 (11-17-1088-00-00ax-editorial-fix.docx)
May 2017 Straw Poll #15 ( ax-editorial-fix.docx) Do you accept to instruct the editor to perform the changes in 1088r0 Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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May 2017 Straw Poll #16 ( ax-cr-for and part-iii.docx) Do you accept resolutions to following CIDs in doc ax-cr-for and part-iii.docx 5384, 8403, 6177, 7160, 9381, 9414 (CIDs 6) Results: Y/N/A: Passed by unanimous consent Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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July 2017 Pending SPs Chao-Chun Wang (MediaTek)
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