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November 2015 802.11 Session Supplementary Material
May 2011 doc.: IEEE /0051r2 November 2015 November Session Supplementary Material Date: Authors: Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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November 2015 Introduction This report provides supplementary material related to attending the November plenary meetings. Refer to the agenda: 11-15/1217r3 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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November 2015 Wednesday Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W2.2 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2011 doc.: IEEE /0051r2 November 2015 W2.2 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W2.3 – Thursday CAC reminder
November 2015 W2.3 – Thursday CAC reminder Leaders of Task Groups, Study Groups and Standing Committees (or their nominee) should attend the Thursday CAC at 7:30pm. The purpose of the CAC is: To prepare the agenda and material for the closing WG plenary To create room requests for the next session To advise and support the chair in his responsibilities as an EC member Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W5.2 - Survey of attendance reporting
November 2015 W5.2 - Survey of attendance reporting At the last meeting, manual counts were taken of the number of people present in the room at the half-way point of each meeting. As 75% attendance in a meeting is required to claim attendance, everybody claiming attendance should be present at this point The counts recorded from the IMAT attendance system were captures and compared. See the following slides Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W5.2 - Recorded counts from the minutes
November 2015 W5.2 - Recorded counts from the minutes Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W5.2 - Counts from IMAT November 2015
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W5.2 - Ratio: IMAT/physical (where physical was recorded)
November 2015 W5.2 - Ratio: IMAT/physical (where physical was recorded) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W5.2 - How should we respond to this data?
November 2015 W5.2 - How should we respond to this data? Should we care? Can we ever do anything about it – after all isn’t it just human nature? It is unreasonable to expect a “personal professional” ethic? Should we ask IEEE 802 for guidance? Should we attempt to identify the those abusing the system? Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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November 2015 W5.2 - Straw Poll Should the WG chair attempt to take any corrective action in the matter of wrongly-claimed attendance ? Yes No Abstain Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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W5.7 – Distribution of “Standards Disk”
November 2015 W5.7 – Distribution of “Standards Disk” The challenges.. Distribution of Standards on DVD doesn’t help those whose laptop doesn’t have a DVD drive (increasing). Cost is ~ $1. Distribution of Standards on a USB drive is expensive - $5, and some companies have an internal policy of disabling access to USB disk drives as a security measure. Distribution of Standards online would need to authenticate that downloads to authenticated & registered users at the meeting, and probably create an audit trail of download vs user. This infrastructure does not exist, and therefore there would be a cost to develop it. And finally – supporting > 1 distribution medium would add to cost and management overhead. Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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How do you prefer to access an “IEEE 802 Standards Disk”?
November 2015 How do you prefer to access an “IEEE 802 Standards Disk”? DVD USB memory stick Authenticated download Some other method not yet invented Don’t have any interest in receiving this information Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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November 2015 friday Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F2.2 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2011 doc.: IEEE /0051r2 November 2015 F2.2 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F2.4 Administrative Reminders
November 2015 F2.4 Administrative Reminders Next Full WG Session: January 17-22 1st CAC telecon – Dec 14th at noon ET (-5 weeks) Initial objectives/agendas should be uploaded as mentor documents (.ppt format) or send to chair (.xls tab format) before the telecon. Meeting date set to meet 30-day agenda submission deadline. 2nd CAC telecon – Jan 11th at noon ET (-1 week) Snapshots to be send to Dorothy Stanley before this telecon. Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F2.5 Letters of Assurance Database is here 5 requests for LoA pending:
November 2015 F2.5 Letters of Assurance Database is here 5 requests for LoA pending: Texas A&M University System (802.11n, .11ac, .11ad) Blackberry (802.11ai) HP (802.11ai) Microsoft (802.11ai) Was pending in last session: NTT (patents have expired) Broadcom (802.11ai) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F2.6 Availability of documents- Nov 2015
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /0203r2 March 2014 November 2015 F2.6 Availability of documents- Nov 2015 Publication Draft in TechStreet Draft in Members Area Published in Get 802? Published by ISO? IEEE P802.11REVmc D4.0 $600 pdf D4.3 IEEE P802.11ai D6.0 $165 pdf D6.1 IEEE P802.11ah D5.0 $302 pdf D5.0 IEEE P802.11ak D1.3 IEEE P802.11aq D3.0 IEEE Std af-2013 $201 print Yes IEEE Std ac-2013 $309 print IEEE Std ad-2012 $371 print IEEE Std ae-2012 $108 print IEEE Std aa-2012 $185 print IEEE Std $556 print ** = request pending Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation Bruce Kraemer (Marvell)
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F2.7 802.11 drafts to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /0203r2 March 2014 November 2015 F drafts to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Drafts are sent to ISO during sponsor ballot to solicit comments. Notice was sent (in October) to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 soliciting comment on P802.11ai D6.0 and P802.11ah D5.0. Approved drafts may also be sent during working group ballot. Any comments received from ISO are processed by the comment resolution committee No comments outstanding Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation Andrew Myles, Cisco
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F6.2 - Survey of attendance reporting
November 2015 F6.2 - Survey of attendance reporting At the last meeting, manual counts were taken of the number of people present in the room at the half-way point of each meeting. As 75% attendance in a meeting is required to claim attendance, everybody claiming attendance should be present at this point The counts recorded from the IMAT attendance system were captures and compared. See the following slides Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F6.2 - Recorded counts from the minutes
November 2015 F6.2 - Recorded counts from the minutes Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F6.2 - Counts from IMAT November 2015
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F6.2 - Ratio: IMAT/physical (where physical was recorded)
November 2015 F6.2 - Ratio: IMAT/physical (where physical was recorded) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F6.2 - How should we respond to this data?
November 2015 F6.2 - How should we respond to this data? Should we care? Should we ask IEEE 802 for guidance? Should we try to change IEEE 802 rules? Should we attempt to identify the those abusing the system? How do we define participation? What behaviours are we trying to encourage, and what discourage? How does a tool impede or enable “real work?” Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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November 2015 F6.2 - Straw Poll Should the WG chair attempt to take any corrective action in the matter of wrongly-claimed attendance ? Yes No Abstain Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F7.1 802 Wireless Chairs meeting
November 2015 F Wireless Chairs meeting The wireless chairs meeting makes decisions related to the operation of the wireless interim meetings, such as location and cost. The meeting is open to all. If you are interested in these topics, please attend. The wireless chairs meeting takes place at 4:00pm local time on the Sunday of 802 Plenary and 802 Wireless Interim sessions. Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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F7.2 Next Meeting – LMSC Interim
November 2015 F7.2 Next Meeting – LMSC Interim to at Hyatt Regency, Atlanta, GA IEEE LMSC (802) Interim All LMSC working groups will be present Meeting Registration and Hotel Registration are open For information and registration links, see Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
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