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1 ExTAG Training Workshop Calgary 2012 QAR related Issues
Ron Sinclair MBE Chair - ExTAG

2 QAR related Issues Issuing and Registering aspects Auditing aspects
Status between visit and completion Change of QAR issuing ExCB QAR issue number on certificates Auditing aspects Subcontractors Stockist/Assemblers Ex Mark aspects

3 QAR Results ? 20%? Certification to be issued/maintained 75%? Certification to be issued maintained subject to written clearance of NCRs 5%? Certification to be issued/maintained subject to satisfactory follow-up visit <1% Certification to be refused/suspended

4 Visit through to Completion
QAR status between completing the audit visit and signing off NCR actions ? QAR is signed by auditor on completion of audit but before NCR actions are completed ? Is the QAR signed off by ExCB before or after NCR actions are completed ? What (in general) is an acceptable time to complete actions ? (OD009 suggests it is the Certificate issuing ExCB that determines this, not the QAR issuing ExCB – How ?)

5 Visit through to Completion
Re-assessment New QAR summary created when QAR issued Validity date 36 months after visit or 36 months after previous validity date ? What about the interim period ? New QAR not issued, but old QAR out of validity Retain original record but move date ? Add comment in comment field ?

6 Visit through to Completion
Interim Surveillance Add information to existing QAR record New audit date recorded as Interim Surveillance Validity date unchanged, even if NCRs remain outstanding

7 QAR “out of date” lists ExCB QAR list – very useful ?
QARs out of date but only referencing cancelled certificates still appear Can ask secretariat to manually remove such QARs from lists

8 QAR “out of date” lists ExCB Certificate list – Very long list –
Useful , but too much data ? All issues of certificates – Why ? Cancelled certificates ? Very long list – ExCBs QARs already identified easily from the ExCB QAR list Desirable to find certificates where QAR is issued by another ExCB

9 QAR “out of date” lists Problems revealed –
Manufacturer does not tell ExCB when changing QAR issuing ExCB, forgetting to request a certificate re-issue QAR ExCB adds such a certificate as a “Manual Insertion” certificate number Manual insertion seems to be at the bottom of over half the difficulties, as they are not automatically on the certificate

10 QAR issue number Customer or inspection body refusing to believe that reference on a certificate to a previous (non-current) edition of the QAR is acceptable When new issue of certificate, should the QAR issue number be updated ? Do we need to list the QAR issue number on the certificate ?

11 Auditing Aspects Auditing (and issuing of QAR) or not for sites that do not hold a certificate Prohibited for ATEX following discussions in ExNB ? OK for IECEx as more than one manufacturing location can be listed Defining extent of manufacture versus assembly of a kit of parts

12 Stockist / Assembler ATEX Guidelines recognise a particular role for an organisation that completes final assembly of a kit of parts directly under the control of the kit manufacturer Typical example – final fit out of terminals in an Ex e junction box based on drawings and instructions supplied by the manufacturer Guidelines effectively require manufacturer to take responsibility for work of Stockist/Assembler which can be verified at audit of manufacturer

13 From ATEX Guidelines 3.7.5.2 “Assemblies with various configurations”
“Although in this case the parts are not necessarily put together by the manufacturer of the assembly, and placed on the market as a single functional unit, the manufacturer is responsible for the compliance of the assembly as long as the parts are chosen from the defined range and selected and combined according to his instructions.”

14 Stockist / Assembler IECEx does not currently have a formal recognition of the role of the stockist/assembler, but there are two possible situations Stockist/Assembler takes final responsibility Manufacturer takes final responsibility How do we differentiate ?

15 Stockist / Assembler If the Stockist/Assembler is to take final responsibility: Could have own Certificate Must have own QAR, to be listed either on own certificate or on manufacturer’s certificate as an alternative manufacturing address

16 Stockist / Assembler If Manufacturer is to take final responsibility
Stockist/Assembler is not listed as a manufacturing site Treated as a subcontracted activity Manufacturer has to demonstrate full control of the process Normally this would involve receiving full records of everything assembled

17 Stockist / Assembler Records are key to making this work
For manufacturer to retain responsibility Receive “as built” records for every item Retain records as required by For traceability and recall purposes Audit the Stockist/Assembler at an appropriate frequency To confirm work carried out correctly To confirm records are correct

18 Stockist / Assembler Role of ExCB when Manufacturer accepts responsibility for the actions of the Stockist/Assembler Ensure that documents recorded in the certificate/ExTR give sufficient information for any assembly to comply without possibility of error When performing the QAR assessments to confirm that all necessary record trails are in place and procedures being followed To confirm the manufacturer is auditing the activities of the Stockist/Assembler

19 IECEx Mark Audit Issues
As conceived, the Mark Licence structure seemed to assume that the Mark Licencing ExCB, the Certificate issuing ExCB and the QAR issuing ExCB were the same organisation In practice, if the certificate and QAR ExCBs are different, the certificate ExCB has to take full responsibility for the Mark Licence activity (Decision handed down from IEC)

20 IECEx Mark Audit Issues
How to handle if Mark Licencing ExCB does not issue QAR ? Perform separate audit on manufacturer related only to Mark issues ? Expensive Contract QAR ExCB to perform Mark audit ? Requires cooperation and communication

21 IECEx Mark Audit Issues
Cost Zero from IECEx Audit time ? Half day ? Full day ? WG5 and ExMarkCo looking at addendum to QAR to record Mark surveillance Also looking at how to do Mark surveillance when related to Unit Verification

22 Other issues Any related issues to be raised from the floor


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