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1 Guy Wormser IN2P3/CNRS , EGEE Applications Manager
January, 2004 EGEE is proposed as a project funded by the European Union under contract IST

2 NA4 : EGEE Applications Sector
Objectives NA4 structure The execution plan Training requirements Risk analysis Issues related to other activities Changes requested to the TA Steps to be done between now and the project startup 2

3 Objectives Overall Short Term Objectives
Deploy and happily run many different applications from various fields Provide necessary feedback to Middleware and Operations Short Term Objectives Be ready to deploy a few pilot applications from Day 1 HEP: Good integration of EGEE HEP team and EGEE structure with LCG and LHC experiments BIO: Pilot applications selection and deployment Be ready to deploy up to two generic applications shortly after Day 1 Put in place the selection procedure and Selection Panel Launch and drive a strong and active Industry Forum First large session during the kick off meeting in Cork 3

4 NA4 structure 4

5 Key Individuals Coordination: GW then Vincent BRETON (CNRS) (1/03/04)
HEP : Frank Harris (CERN) Bio: Vincent Breton then XXX (CNRS) Generic: Roberto Barbera(INFN) Test Team: René Meyterie (CS SI) Industry Forum: Christian Saguez (Ecole Centrale) NA3 Liaison: John Murison (U. of Edinburg) 5

6 NA4 composition Biggest NA4 challenge:
Activity NA4 Total effort(FTE) Total effort (PM) 1st year effort (PM) 2nd year effort (PM) Activity CERN 16 192 96 HEP CESNET 3.2 38.4 19.2 Generic MTA 0.8 9.6 4.8 UEDIN 2 24 12 NA3 liaison CNRS 20 240 120 Bio + Coord + testing team CSSI 4 48 Testing team CRSA Industry forum DKRZ FhG INFN 8 FOM IHEP IMPB RAS 2.6 31.2 15.6 Bio ITEP JINR PNPI RRC KI SINP-MSU CSIC UPV TOTAL 98.2 1178.4 589.2 NA4 composition Biggest NA4 challenge: Form an efficient team with all these partners 6

7 HEP sector activities Membership of ‘HEP applications’ in NA4
Information and management links with the experiments Relationship to general experiment work and LCG activities(GAG,ARDA…) Current thinking (very first iteration) on the deliverables, tasks and manpower as per the TA Issues at ARDA workshop and planning a dedicated meeting with experiments following it 7

8 HEP relationships Proposals for our immediate action (agreed by all parties) Each experiment to have a nominated representative on the NA4 steering committee We set up a steering committee mailing list including these (and experiment comp coordinators) Define as soon as possible a calendar of NA4 meetings avoiding clashes with other key meetings (e.g. LCG) as far as possible Make a web site for all relevant documents (use existing EGEE structures) Ensure very first drafts of all NA4 documents are available to the experiments for comment. Experiments are unhappy to have got our first ‘execution plan’ a little late and to have had late warning of our meetings this week Start discussing what will be the activities of NA4, who will participate from experiments and so on. (this is the 1st of such meetings but maybe with ‘sparse experiment representation due to short notice and rival LCG/GDB meeting) 8

9 Experiment use of middleware (current and future)
HEP relationships (2) Experiment use of middleware (current and future) Experiments anyway will be using LCG infrastructure with their own teams. We must ensure coherence in our efforts. We are all one HEP applications family We must relate our updated detailed planning to ARDA planning and experiment data challenges (see ARDA workshop next week and our follow-up) We must ensure that HEP people in EGEE don’t have too many managers. Maybe we need more rationalisation in our overall HEP community effort Relationship to LCG committees Would expect to be represented on some future GAG or equivalent committee overviewing experiment requirements and feedback to middleware 9

10 Bio sector CNRS coordinator, Spain and Russia partners Multiple role:
4 FTE funded + 4 unfunded Embedded in the BioMed projects, on a permanent or temporary basis Multiple role: Demonstrate the usefulness of grid-powered biomed applications Become the focal point of the Biomed Grid community, in partnership with the HealthGrid association Provide detailed feedback to EGEE Ensure that specific bioMed requirements propagate everywhere in EGEE Applications selection 2 from CNRS, 1 UPV, 1 Madrid 10

11 The generic applications
Need of an attractive and orderly integration process: Peer review process scientific interest of the proposed work, with particular emphasis on the grid added-value, coordination of the corresponding community, grid-awareness of this community minimum requirement that a small team followed the EGEE training), dedication of the community to this application, agreement to the various EGEE policies and especially the security and resources allocation policies. Succesfull kick_off meeting on Dec 18 in Paris (EO, geology, astrophysics, Chemistry, Engineering sciences, Digital Libraries) 11

12 Generic applications The proposed selection panel composition
NA4 members Generic App Manager Chair of Selection Panel Other EGEE members NA3 rep Security officer (JRA3 chair) Operation officer (SA1) Non EGEE members Typical profile: chair of analoguous selection panels in national panels …. 12

13 There is a detailed draft execution plan!
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14 Execution plan 14

15 Risk analysis « External » risks (+++) « Internal » Risks
Lousy middleware Flaky infrastructure « Internal » Risks HEP: Bad integration with LCG and/or experiments Bio : failure to form the core of a community Generic : not sufficiently attractive, or not sufficiently selective Insufficient Feedback quality or not taken into account Insufficient partner involvment and/or integration « Strategic » risks EGEE too HEP-centric Insufficient integration of national infrastructures 15

16 Other NA4 activities Industry Forum NA3 liason person NA4 Test team
Presession April 22, 2003 (~25 participants) Second session October 7 , 2003 at CERN NA3 liason person NA4 Test team Derive testing suites based on use cases 16

17 Initial NA4 Steering committee
Guy Wormser,CNRS-France, NA4 overall manager. Vincent Breton , CNRS-France, NA4 Bio-Med Application manager Frank Harris,CERN, NA4 HEP Application manager. Roberto Barbera, INFN-Italy, NA4 Generic Application manager. Christian Saguez, Ecole Centrale Paris-France, Chair of the EGEE Industry Forum. Francois Etienne, CNRS-France, NA4 deputy manager. PLUS 4 HEP experiments rep, 2 bio reps, 1 rep per selected generic community 17

18 Roles and staffing Role NA3 Liaison 0,5 Italy Generic app (coord) 2
Federation Role FTE Requested Unfunded Financing CERN HEP Applic ations (coord.) 4 800 UK+Ireland NA3 Liaison 0,5 94 Italy Generic app (coord) 2 400 France General coord., BioMed, Test team, Industry diss. 7 1392 Northern Europe Generic applications 1 194 Germany + Switzerland 199 Central Europe 60 South West Europe BioMed 348 Russia HEP, BioMed 3 151 Totals 21,5 3608 k€ Generic applications 18

19 Milestones Milestones and expected result MNA4.1 M6
First applications migrated to the EGEE infrastructure MNA4.2 M12 First external review of Applications Identification and Support with feedback MNA4.3 M24 Second external review of Applications Identification and Support with feedback . 19

20 Deliverables Deliverables DNA4.1 M3
Definition of Common Application Interface and Planning Document DNA4.2 M6 Target Application Sector Strategy document DNA4.3 M9 EGEE Application Migration Progress report (revision M15 and M21) DNA4.4 M24 Final Report of Application Identification and Support Activity . 20

21 Issues related to other activities
The Generic application Selection Panel (JRA3, SA1) Feedback loops (JRA1, SA1) Training needs for new users (NA3) Industry Forum and dissemination (NA2) The complex HEP situation (LCG, LHC experiments) 21

22 Training requirements
Internal NA4 team « Loose canons », application support providers must have a good knowledge of our infrastructure and middleware Total of 24 people External needs All new applications must identify a small core team from within their communities to deply and run their application with the help of the NA4 manpower Mininum knowledge to acomplish this task ~around 50 people along the duration of the project 22

23 On the agenda ! Converge on the execution plan (VB)
Update the technical annex (FE) Form the Selection panel for the generic applications (RB-GW) Launch NA4 extended steering committee meetings (GW) Prepare the kick-off meeting in Cork (April 19-22) including the Industry Forum session Contact and involve ALL NA4 partners All partners to launch the recruiting process Find a replacement for Vincent as head of the bio/med sector Build a team spirit! 23


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