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IEEE 802.11 TGv July Agenda Date: 2008-07-17 Authors: July 2008
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 IEEE TGv July Agenda Date: Authors: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Abstract This presentation contains the IEEE TGv agenda and motions for July 2008. Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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TGv – July 2008 July 2008 Call Meeting to Order
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 TGv – July 2008 Call Meeting to Order Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder, see **IEEE Patent Policy Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. ***Affiliation FAQ - Anti-Trust FAQ - Ethics - IEEE Policies and Procedures - IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures - ** Read slide deck *** Note especially items #7 & #11 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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TGv Agenda July 2008 Monday PM1 Wednesday AM1 Weds PM1 Tuesday AM2
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 TGv Agenda Monday PM1 Call to Order, IP info & query, Approve Agenda Chair’s Welcome, Status, Review of Objectives Motions – Jacksonville minutes LB 133 Comments - status Presentation – Location Inquiry Junling Hu Wednesday AM1 Comment Resolution Presentation Weds PM1 Comment Resolution (30)Presentation – Timing Measurement – Ganesh Venkatesan Presentation – Directed Multicast - Emily Qi Tuesday AM2 Comment Resolution (30)Presentation – Diagnostic proposal – r0 Sudheer Matta Thursday AM1 Comment resolution – Roaming Mgt Presentation – – Sudheer Tuesday PM2 (30-45)Presentation – , 787, 788, 789 – Ruijun Feng (30-45)Presentation – AP Power Down Notification - Allan Thomson Comment resolution Thursday PM1 Comment Resolution – Frame Priority-Mike M, Darwin E. Presentation - Emily – Directed Multicast Plans for September, Adjourn Motions (estimated time) Attendance reminder: **for each timeslot*** Documents: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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July Meeting Status & Objectives
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 July Meeting Status & Objectives TGv Status Draft 3.00 available LB 133 Comments available in Bob Miller is able to serve as TGv Secretary through Sept 08, then we need a volunteer to take over from Bob July Meeting Objectives Comment Resolution Hear Presentations Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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Documents for 08/801 comment resolution
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Documents for 08/801 comment resolution Category Volunteers Document Annex Joe Kwak Collocated Interference Jari Jokela, Jing Zhu Diagnostics D. Stanley 08-901 Event FBMS A. Thomson 08-898 General 08-841 Multicast Diagnostics Alex Ashley Location/Timing A. Thomson/Ganesh 08-897 Proxy ARP 08-866 Roaming Management Emily Qi 08-883 SleepMode STA Statistics Y. Seok, G. Venkatsan TFS 08-886 TIM Broadcast M. Wentink Traffic Generation Moo-Ryong Jeong Virtual AP D. Stanley, Qi Wang TCLAS G. Venkatsan Channel Usage E. Qi Resolutions # CID # remaining 1 25 Denver 38 7 (31) 48 66 258 31 107 9 0 (2) 15 2 34 18 11 52 8 22 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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TGv Schedule History Wireless Network Management SG formed – Jan 2004
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 TGv Schedule History Wireless Network Management SG formed – Jan 2004 Wireless Networks Management TG formed – Nov 2004 Call for proposals – Sept 2005 Base line accepted - January 06 Submissions addressing objectives - Started in March 06 TG Ad-Hoc Draft Internal Review - October 06 to present Internal review of Draft 0.05 – 446 comments (06/1615) Internal review of Draft 0.08 – 95 comments (07/0310) Internal review of Draft comments (07/0594) LB 108 Results: 132 yes -77 no -38 abstain, 63% approval, fails, comments in LB 123 Results: 126 yes, 62 no, 34 abstain, 67% approval, fails, comments in LB 133 Results: 106 yes, 47 no, 28 abstain, 69% approval, comments in Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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TGv Timeline – Updated July, 2008
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 TGv Timeline – Updated July, 2008 Initial Working Group Letter Ballot: July 07 – completed Jan 08 – D2.0, May 08 – D3.0 Re-circulation Working Group Letter Ballot: September 08 (D4.0) Jan 09 – D5.0, Mar 09 – D 6.0, May 09 – D7.0, D7.0(unchanged) Form Sponsor Ballot Pool: June 09 Initial Sponsor Ballot: July 09 Potential March 09 Conditional to Sponsor Else June 09 Revcom Agenda July 09 – D7.0 Approved Sponsor Ballot: September 09 Nov 09 – D8.0, Jan 09 D9.0, Feb D10.0, March D11.0 Feb 6th (or so) to get on March 2010 agenda, May 12th ( or so) for Revcom June Approval Final WG/EC Approval: March or July 2010 RevCom/Standards Board Approval: June 4th/June 5th(or so) Note: TGv PAR is authorized through Dec 2010 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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TGv D3.0 Content Summary July 2008
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 TGv D3.0 Content Summary BSS Transition Management for Network Load Balancing Channel Usage Co-located Interference Reporting Diagnostic Reporting Event Reporting Flexible Broadcast/Multicast service Multicast Diagnostics Reporting Multiple BSSID Support Multiple SSID Proxy ARP Location, Timing Measurement TIM Broadcast TFS Sleep Mode Approximately 250 Pages of content Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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Known September Presentations
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Known September Presentations Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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September Meeting Planning
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 September Meeting Planning Objectives Comment Resolution Hear Presentations Letter Ballot Conference Call(s) Ad-Hoc meeting Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion 1 Move to adopt the agenda in v-July-2008-agenda. Mover: Seconder: Result: Unanimous Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion 2 Move to approve the meeting minutes in v-minutes-tgv-11v-Jacksonville-meeting-minutes. Mover: Ganesh Venkatesan Seconder: Junling Hu Result: Unanimous Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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Straw Poll 1 I would like to see normative text for 08-844r0. Yes: 14
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Straw Poll 1 I would like to see normative text for r0. Yes: 14 No: 2 Abstain: 9 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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July 2008 Straw Poll 2 Do you think it meaningful to add such kind of measurement and reporting parameters (08-787) to keep the network more controllable? -Yes: 5 -No: 1 -Don’t know: 12 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2008 Straw Poll 3 Do you think it meaningful to put the NumRefusedAssociationReq counter and other SMT related counters into the MIB to facilitate some service and network quality statistics? - Yes: 5 - No: 1 - Don’t know: 10 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2008 Straw Poll 4 Do you think it meaningful to add the embedded reboot and related notification parameters to keep the network recovery more quickly? - Yes: 3 - No: 7 - Don’t know: 3 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2008 Straw Poll 5 Do you think a normative text proposal on AP Power Notification should be considered for inclusion in TGv? Yes: 14 No: 0 Don’t care: 3 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Straw Poll 6 Which Solution do you prefer? (one vote only)
July 2008 Straw Poll 6 Which Solution do you prefer? (one vote only) Solution #1: BSS Transition Management Yes: 13 Solution #2: Neighbor Report Yes: 0 Both Solution #1 and Solution #2 Yes: 2 Other solution Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Straw Poll 7 Which Solution do you prefer to resolve CIDs 244, 245?
July 2008 Straw Poll 7 Which Solution do you prefer to resolve CIDs 244, 245? Solution #1: Add qualifying sentence “info about the neighbor AP is best effort. Current Info is in the Beacon” Yes: 2 Solution #2: Delete Available Admission Capacity and BSS Load from the Neighbor report Yes: 11 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2008 Straw Poll 8 I agree with the building blocks described in for providing a link throughput measurement. Yes: 10 Yes: 2 Abstain: 6 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Straw Polls 9, 10, 11 Is adding priority to RRM and WNM frames an important issue? Yes:14 No:2 Abstain:6 Should this problem be resolved in TGv? Yes: 5 No: 6 Abstain: 8 Approach preference (vote for just 1) QOS header: 6 Duty cycle limits: 0 Priority of responses: 2 None of the above: 4 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion 3 Move to incorporate the changes in v-normative-text-for-directed-multicast into the TGv draft. Mover: Emily Qi Seconder: Ganesh Venkatesan Result: Motion fails Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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Motion 4 Move to authorize TGv Teleconferences August 12 at 1200
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion 4 Move to authorize TGv Teleconferences August 12 at 1200 August 26 at 1300 September 2 at 1300 Eastern for 2 hours. Mover: Allan Thomson Seconder: Ganesh Venkatesan Result: passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion 5 Move to authorize a TGv Ad-hoc meeting August in Santa Clara, hosted by Intel Mover: Ganesh Venkatesan Seconder: Allan Thomson Result: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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Motion 6 (Adopt resolutions agreed to in Denver)
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion 6 (Adopt resolutions agreed to in Denver) Move to adopt the comment resolutions for comments in the categories indicated below, and include the indicated text changes into the TGv draft. (TFS) - All accepted, counter and declined comments (BSS Transition) – All accepted, counter and declined comments (Proxy ARP) – All accepted and counter comments, except CID 1285 Mover: Alex Ashley Seconder: Allan Thomson Result: 8-0-5 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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July 2008 Motion Move to incorporate the changes in document into the TGv draft, and resolve CID xxx, as accepted, “Incorporate text changes in 08-06xx-01” Moved: Seconded: Result Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion Move Mover: Seconder: Result:
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Motion Move To request the WG chair to conduct a 15-day confirmation ballot on TGv Draft D3.0x, and To request the Working Group to renumber TGv Draft D3.0x, if the confirmation ballot succeeds, as D4.0 and authorize a 30-day Letter Ballot. Mover: Seconder: Result: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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Straw Poll The TGv xx feature should Be mandatory in the PICS
January 2005 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2008 Straw Poll The TGv xx feature should Be mandatory in the PICS Be optional in the PICS No opinion Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Systems
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References July 2008 January 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-yy/xxxxr0
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