1. Key to the Age of the Earth
Dinosaurs
Key to the Age of the Earth
Mike Riddle

2. The Common Story
Dinosaurs evolved into existence 220 million years ago and became extinct 65 million years ago, long before man evolved.
This story is accepted by virtually all evolutionists and many Christians.
Great claims require real evidence

3. David Noebel (President of Summit Ministries), The Battle for Truth, 2001, pp. 6-7.
“In fact, Secular Humanism is the dominant worldview in our secular colleges and universities. It has also made gains in many Christian colleges and universities…. Humanists recognize the classroom as a powerful context for indoctrination.”
Be part of the solution not a spectator

4. How do you fit dinosaurs into the Bible?
Challenge
How do you fit dinosaurs into the Bible?
Holy Bible

5. Land animals and people
Day 1
Earth and light
Day 2
Atmosphere
Day 3
Dry land, seas, plants, fruit, trees
Day 4
Sun, moon, stars
Day 5
Fish, sea creatures, and birds
Day 6
Land animals and people
(Adam and Eve)

6. Are these land animals?

7. Were these land animals?
Are these land animals?

8. Dinosaurs and people lived at the same time

9. Dinosaurs and the Bible
Job 40:15-18
Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
He moveth his tail like a cedar
 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
He is the chief of the ways of God:

11. Leviathan
Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out Job 41:19

12. Chemical storage chamber
Bombardier Beetle
Chemical storage chamber

13. Design

14. A Critical Question How do scientists use geology to determine time?
This is how evolutionists support evolution

15. Words Stratigraphy process of recording [rock layers] Biostratigraphic
Recording life forms [fossil record]
This is how evolutionists support evolution
Chronostratigraphic
Recording time [rock layers]

16. Geologic Time Scale 2012
Newsletter on Stratigraphy, Vol. 45/2, 171–188, July 2012, “On Geologic Time Scale”
“Continual improvements in data coverage, methodology, and standardization of chronostratigraphic units imply that no geologic time scale can be final.”
Page 186
“chrono” = time
“chrono” = time

17. R. R. Lemon, Ph.D., Principles of Stratigraphy, 1991, pp. vii-viii.
“Modern stratigraphy would be impossible without biostratigraphic [fossil] control… .”
“bio” = life

18. Fossils and Time U.S. Geological Survey
“Keyed to the relative time scale are examples of index fossils, the forms of life which existed during limited periods of geologic time and thus are used as guides to the age of the rocks in which they are preserved.”
USGS
Two scales are used to date these episodes and to measure the age of the Earth: a relative time scale, based on the sequence of layering of the rocks and the evolution of life, and the radiometric time scale, based on the natural radioactivity of chemical elements in some of the rocks. An explanation of the relative scale highlights events in the growth of geologic science itself; the radiometric scale is a more recent development borrowed from the physical sciences and applied to geologic problems.

19. Geology and Time How Accurate? Fossils The key to time
Precambrian
Ediacaran
Fossils
The key to time
How Accurate?
If we could shown that the fossils are not accurate indicators of time then the whole system of geological timeline as well as radiometric dates are false.
Fossils and dating (biostratigraphy)
Radiometric dating and geology
Debunking geology and “deep time”
Radiometric Dating

20. Fossils and Time 3 Critical Problems
Living fossils
Out of place fossils
Dinosaurs
USGS
Two scales are used to date these episodes and to measure the age of the Earth: a relative time scale, based on the sequence of layering of the rocks and the evolution of life, and the radiometric time scale, based on the natural radioactivity of chemical elements in some of the rocks. An explanation of the relative scale highlights events in the growth of geologic science itself; the radiometric scale is a more recent development borrowed from the physical sciences and applied to geologic problems.

21. 1 Living Fossils Coelacanth fish No change in 100 million years
Elephant Sharks
No change in 420 million years
Coined by Charles Darwin, the term “living fossils” is used to describe living creatures that have stood the test of time — hardy and resilient organisms that have remained largely unchanged for millions of years.
We used to think that coelacanths went extinct around the same time as the dinosaurs, about 65 million years ago. But their “re-discovery” in 1938 off the coast of South Africa reset our notions of how durable some species truly are. Coelacanths have been traced as far back as 80 million years ago,
Crocodiles
No change in 90 million years

22. Living Fossils Horseshoe Crab No change in 450 million years Nautilus
Coined by Charles Darwin, the term “living fossils” is used to describe living creatures that have stood the test of time — hardy and resilient organisms that have remained largely unchanged for millions of years.
We used to think that coelacanths went extinct around the same time as the dinosaurs, about 65 million years ago. But their “re-discovery” in 1938 off the coast of South Africa reset our notions of how durable some species truly are. Coelacanths have been traced as far back as 80 million years ago,

23. Living Fossils Tuatara Reptile No change in 200 million years
Scorpions
No change in 360 million years

24. Living Fossils Jellyfish No change in 500 million years
Huntsman Spider
No change in 50 million years

25. Living Fossils Dragon Flies No change in 230 million years
Wollemi pine
No change in 150 million years

26. Living Fossils Bats No change in 52 million years Starfish

27. Out of Place Fossils 2
A rock layer designated for a specific time period often contains fossils from different time periods.
Examples
Flowering plants
Birds
Dinosaurs
Mammals
Bees
Anomalocaris, a characteristically “Cambrian” creature, has been found in Ordovician rocks.
150 myo squid. The squid even contained an ink sac so fresh that the ink could be used to paint a picture.

28. Out of Place Fossils
Michael Oard (M.S. Atmospheric Science, Researcher in Earth Science)
“You may be surprised to learn that fossils are being found in the wrong place all the time.”
“You may be surprised to learn that fossils are being found “in the wrong place” all the time. Out of place, that is, compared with the areas, or ranges, shown for them on the geological column.”
Michael Oard (M.S. Atmospheric Science, Researcher in Earth Science), “Are fossils ever found in the wrong place?”,

29. Fossil Squid
A 150 million year old fossil squid was discovered that contained a fresh ink sac.
Anomalocaris, a characteristically “Cambrian” creature, has been found in Ordovician rocks.
150 myo squid. The squid even contained an ink sac so fresh that the ink could be used to paint a picture.
Head

30. Conclusion: Living Fossils
With so many fossils that have not changed over the alleged millions of years, plus so many out-of-place fossils, how can index fossils be trusted as a true indicator of time?
On Vancouver Island, just off the west coast of Canada, in the late 1990s, a paleontologist found a sponge, which he called Nucha vancouverensis, claiming it was a new species.4,5 It was buried in rocks classified on the geologic column as Upper Triassic, which are supposedly some 220 million years old. Surprisingly, this sponge is virtually identical to one previously found in western New South Wales, Australia, named Nucha naucum, from Middle Cambrian rocks, supposedly 520 million years old.6 But why wasn’t it found in any strata from those 300 million intervening years? The Nucha from Vancouver has greatly extended the range for this particular fossil upward in the geological column.

31. 3 Dinosaurs and Time Dinosaurs are dated by the rock layers.
Dinosaurs are claimed to have lived from 65 to 220 million years ago.
Dinosaurs are used as a classic proof of evolution.

32. Evidence
If there is evidence that dinosaurs lived only a few thousand years ago then the assumptions and methods used to date these fossils are not correct.

33. Red blood cells, fibrous tissue, blood vessels
T-rex Discovery
Elastic tissue
Fresh tissue
Soft fibrous tissue
Red blood cells, fibrous tissue, blood vessels
One description of a portion of the tissue was that it is “flexible and resilient and when stretched returns to its original shape”.
The exciting discovery was apparently made when researchers were forced to break open the leg bone of a Tyrannosaurus rex fossil to lift it by helicopter. The bone was still largely hollow and not filled up with minerals as is usual. Dr Schweitzer used chemicals to dissolve the bony matrix, revealing the soft tissue still present
03:31 PM Mar. 24, 2005 PT
WASHINGTON -- For more than a century, the study of dinosaurs has been limited to fossilized bones. Now, researchers have recovered 70-million-year-old soft tissue, including what may be blood vessels and cells, from a Tyrannosaurus rex.
The soft tissues were recovered from the thighbone of a T. rex, known as MOR 1125, that was found in a sandstone formation in Montana. The dinosaur was about 18 years old when it died.
Yet another hadrosaur has been described by UK scientists as "absolutely gobsmacking."8 Its tissues were "extremely well preserved" and contained "soft-tissue replacement structures and associated organic compounds.“
The soft tissue, including blood vessel walls, are composed of protein. Biochemicals such as proteins are notoriously unstable and breakdown rapidly. These biochemicals have short duration spans in almost any imaginable environment.

34. T-rex Tissue Blood vessels
Question: Could the T-rex have died out 65 million years ago? NO!
Blood vessels
Microscopic structures squeezed out of blood vessels

35. Dinosaurs and Dating Since the 1990’s scientists have discovered:
Soft tissue in dinosaur bones.
Unfossilized dinosaur bones.
Proteins in dinosaur fossils.
Red blood cells in dinosaur fossils.

36. In 2012 scientists discovered dinosaur DNA
Facts about DNA
DNA is a fragile molecule and breaks down quickly (half-life of 521 years).
DNA stability suggests it could last only thousands of years.
The preservation of dinosaur DNA contradicts evolution.
By comparing the specimens' ages and degrees of DNA degradation, the researchers calculated that DNA has a half-life of 521 years. That means that after 521 years, half of the bonds between nucleotides in the backbone of a sample would have broken; after another 521 years half of the remaining bonds would have gone; and so on.
At this rate, DNA molecules in bone break down after only 10,000 years into tiny chemical segments too short for modern technology to sequence. And this result assumes preservation factors that optimize biochemical longevity.
DNA could not last half a million years, but paleontologists describe DNA in samples designated millions of years old. Ditching the millions-of-years dogma would resolve this dilemma. The clearly detected dinosaur proteins and what looks like dinosaur DNA make sense if the earth layers that contain them were deposited by Noah’s Flood only thousands of years ago.

37. Dating Dinosaurs
American Geophysical Union and the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society, Aug, 2012
Carbon-14 (C-14) dating of multiple samples of bone from 8 dinosaurs from Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana revealed that they are only 22,000 to 39,000 years old.
After the AOGS-AGU conference in Singapore, the abstract was removed from the conference website by two chairmen because they could not accept the findings. Unwilling to challenge the data openly, they erased the report from public view without a word to the authors or even to the AOGS officers, until after an investigation.
A Triceratops horn discovered in Montana has recently been dated to 33,500 years

38. The bones were dated from 10,000-16,000 years old.
Carbon-14 and Dinosaurs
In June 1990, two dinosaur bone fragments were submitted to the Department of Geosciences at the University of Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. The identity of the bones were not disclosed.
A Triceratops horn discovered in Montana has recently been dated to 33,500 years
There were two horns excavated from the site in Both were sent for carbon dating at the University of Georgia. Recently the results came back, one was dated at about 33,570 years and the other at 41,010 years.
In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age (see Dahmer, et al., 1990, pp ).
Dahmer, Lionel, D. Kouznetsov, et al. (1990), “Report on Chemical Analysis and Further Dating of Dinosaur Bones and Dinosaur Petroglyphs,” Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Creationism, ed. Robert E. Walsh and Christopher L. Brooks (Pittsburgh, PA: Creation Science Fellowship).
The bones were dated from 10,000-16,000 years old.

39. Carbon-14 and Dinosaurs
Two Triceratops horns excavated in 2012 from a site in Montana were sent to the University of Georgia to be carbon-14 dated.
One was dated at 33,570 years and the other 41,010 years.
A Triceratops horn discovered in Montana has recently been dated to 33,500 years
There were two horns excavated from the site in Both were sent for carbon dating at the University of Georgia. Recently the results came back, one was dated at about 33,570 years and the other at 41,010 years.
In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age (see Dahmer, et al., 1990, pp ).
Dahmer, Lionel, D. Kouznetsov, et al. (1990), “Report on Chemical Analysis and Further Dating of Dinosaur Bones and Dinosaur Petroglyphs,” Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Creationism, ed. Robert E. Walsh and Christopher L. Brooks (Pittsburgh, PA: Creation Science Fellowship).

40. Kevin Anderson (Ph. D. Microbiology), Echoes of the Jurassic, 2016, p
“The presence of original dinosaur tissue and proteins cannot be merely ignored or marginalized…. The strongest and most elegant explanation is that the fossils are not millions of years old.”
A Triceratops horn discovered in Montana has recently been dated to 33,500 years
There were two horns excavated from the site in Both were sent for carbon dating at the University of Georgia. Recently the results came back, one was dated at about 33,570 years and the other at 41,010 years.
In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age (see Dahmer, et al., 1990, pp ).
Dahmer, Lionel, D. Kouznetsov, et al. (1990), “Report on Chemical Analysis and Further Dating of Dinosaur Bones and Dinosaur Petroglyphs,” Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Creationism, ed. Robert E. Walsh and Christopher L. Brooks (Pittsburgh, PA: Creation Science Fellowship).

41. X Geology and Time How Accurate? Fossils Radiometric Dating
Precambrian
Ediacaran
Fossils X
How Accurate?
If we could shown that the fossils are not accurate indicators of time then the whole system of geological timeline as well as radiometric dates are false.
Fossils and dating (biostratigraphy)
Radiometric dating and geology
Debunking geology and “deep time”
Radiometric Dating

42. Radiometric Dating Methods What Do They Really Measure?
Jonathan Sarfati (Ph.D. Physical Chemistry), The Greatest Hoax on Earth, 2010, p. 201.
“Age isn’t really measured, rather certain processes and amounts of materials are measured, and age is inferred via certain assumptions.”

43. Radiometric Dating and Assumptions?
Vernon Cupps (Ph.D. Nuclear Physics), “Acts & Facts”, December 2014, p
“Of the eight assumptions, none can be considered to rigorously hold in all situations. Therefore, dating by this method is at best a hypothesis concerning the age of any rock suite or mineral; it is certainly not a scientific fact!”

44. Radiometric Dating
Jim Mason (Ph.D. Experimental Nuclear Physics), Evolution’s Achilles’ Heels, 2014, p. 198.
“The fact that the radiometric ages for rocks of known ages turn out to be so seriously inaccurate is a strong suggestion that one or more of these assumptions is incorrect.”

45. Evidence
Kevin Anderson (Ph.D., Microbiology), Echoes of the Jurassic, 2016, p. 8.
“Those who claim the tissue can survive millions of years face the burden of providing a valid explanation. Otherwise, the far more reasonable explanation is that the fossils are simply not that old.”

46. Summary Geologic time: Scientists use the fossil record
Radiometric dating:
Used to date rocks
Do not give ages
Give inconsistent ages
Based on faulty assumptions
Dinosaurs: Scientific evidence supports they lived recently

47. Evidence
Thousands not millions

48. The Common Perception Christians
“Christians are often unaware of the philosophical underpinnings of ‘deep time’ and unknowingly adopt a view that is counter to God’s Word.”
John Reed (Ph.D. Geology), Rocks Aren’t Clocks: A Critique of the Geologic Timescale, Chapter 4: “Philosophical Foundations of the Timescale”, 2013.

49. Albert Bayles (Th.M., Ph,D.) From Creation to the Cross,1996, p. 27.
“If we are going to learn about God through His activity, creation is the best place to start. It was and is the critical event for a person’s worldview.”

50. The First 3 Chapters
John MacArthur, (Litt.D., D.D., President Master’s College and Seminary)
“I’m convinced the opening chapters of Genesis are not optional. They establish the vital foundation for everything we believe as Christians.”
John MacArthur (Litt.D., D.D., President Master’s College and Seminary), “How Important Is Genesis 1-3?”, Aug 27, 2009.

51. First Three Chapters
Michael Man (Ph.D. Biochemistry), Shouchin Man (Ph.D. Biological Chemistry), Creation Magazine, Vol. 39, 2017.
“If one can’t believe the first three chapters of the Bible, which speak about Creation and the Fall, why believe the rest of the Bible?”

52. Brandon van der Ventel, Ph. D
Brandon van der Ventel, Ph.D. Physics, “Nuclear Scientist Shares His Creation Faith”, Creation, Vol. 34, No. 4, 2012.
“If the story of the fall of man is ‘mythology’ then there is no need for a plan of salvation.”

53. A Warning: 2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
NKJV

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57. People have been led to believe that scientists have proven the earth is billions of years old.
Therefore, the Bible can’t mean what it literally states.