1. Detector Technology Group (PH/DT)
1st meeting of the Steering Board
13 Nov 2008
13 Nov 2008

2. The group’s activities are concentrated in four areas:
Mandate of DT group
The mandate of the PH/DT group comprises development, construction, operation and maintenance of particle detectors for the experiments at CERN. The group clusters common services and infrastructure which are at the benefice of all experiments at CERN, i.e. gas system support, thin film lab, silicon facility with bond lab, irradiation facilities, magnet support, B-field mapping, instrumentation and controls.
The group’s activities are concentrated in four areas:
Completion and consolidation of the ongoing LHC projects;
Maintenance and operation: piquet services, shutdown and preventive maintenance, repairs and infrastructure support;
New detector projects: participation in new developments (LHC upgrade);
R&D: participation in common R&D activities in strategic fields;
A single DT group will represent the main mechanical and engineering resource of the PH department and comprise a very significant fraction of the PH overall staff number (~20%). This fact is accommodated by a transparent management structure with direct representation of the main clients and the department in the steering body.
The two main bodies to steer and manage the group are the Steering Board (SB) and the Coordination Panel (CP)
13 Nov 2008

3. Structure and organization of DT (10’)
Agenda
Structure and organization of DT  (10’)
Overview of 2008 activities and manpower attribution (15’)
Staff evolution
Projects
Services & workshops
R&D activities
Projections to 2009
Maintenance and operation of LHC experiments (10’)
General approach
M&O work packages
Outlook on new projects (10’)
Engineering R&D
Status of APT (5’)
Various items
Space
Detector cooling
TS-LEA activities (gas distribution, cabling, EAM).
Pending DT work package on MCP, DSS, RCS …  EDMS ID
AOB
13 Nov 2008

4. Structure and organization of DT
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Structure and organization of DT
DT = 81 staff
(HRT snap shot, Nov 08.
More details later)
Group Leader : C.Joram
Deputies F. Hahn (Resource Coordinator)
A. Onnela (Safety, workshops)
Secretariat: V. Wedlake (shared with NA48/NA62)
The group comprises 5 sections.
Section
Description
Staff
Leader
PH-DT-PO
Projects Office 9
A. Catinaccio
PH-DT-DI
Detector Infrastructure 26
F.Hahn
PH-DT-TP
Technology and Physics 14
C.Joram
PH-DT-EM1
Engineering & Mechanics 1 19
D.Perini
PH-DT-EM2
Engineering & Mechanics 2 13
H.Danielsson
For each of the 4 large LHC experiments, we appointed a DT experiment contact person (ECP):
Paolo Martinengo (ALICE), Mar Capeans (ATLAS), Joachim Bächler (CMS), Burkhard Schmidt (LHCb)
13 Nov 2008

5. The activities of DT are organized in
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
5 sections
The activities of DT are organized in
~ 20 projects
10 services
3 R&D activities
6 mechanical workshops
Projects Office
Detector Infrastructure
Technologies and Physics
Engineering & Mechanics 1
Engineering & Mechanics 2
M&O 1
Detector Project 1
R&D Project 1
M&O 2
Infrastructure M&O 1
Detector Project 2
Infrastructure Project 1
illustration
Most of the projects extend
over more than 1 section
 Matrix organization.
Most services are located in the Detector Infrastructure section.
Projects , services, R&D
Mechanical workshops
Building
Responsible
Main Use 3
M. Van Stenis
Specialized in glass and ceramic machining. CNC milling machine.
20 
R. Dumps
Small workshop, conventional tools.
108 
F. Garnier
Large Workshop / ATLAS Point 1 activities.
155
A. Wasem
Small Work-shop for Gas Lab.
162 
B. Cantin
Large workshop, conventional tools.
166 
L. Kottelat / J.Bendotti
Conventional and CNC machines.
2252
D. Anstett
ALICE activities at Point 2.
13 Nov 2008

6. People are spread over 7 clusters of buildings
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
People are spread over 7 clusters of buildings
13 Nov 2008

7. Overview of 2008 activities and manpower attribution
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Overview of 2008 activities and manpower attribution
Average DT Personnel Resources in 2008
FTE’s %
Staff 75
89%
Fellow
3.8 5%
Doct. Students
3.7 4%
Proj. Ass
1.6 2%
Total 84
100 %
27 FTE’s Cat. 2:
16 Physicists
7 Mech. Eng.
4 Electro-Mech., Electronics
48 FTE’s in Cat’s. 3+4
39 Mech. + General
9 Electro-Mech., Electronics
Departures in 2008:
A. Foussat
M. Losasso
M. Delattre
E. Albrecht
R. Brocard
New recruitments: 0
ITER
In addition:
FSU: PH01 – pipe work, mech. Support, welding (-4-5 FTE)
FSU: PH-02 – cabling work, electro-mech. support, (6-8 FTE)
Retirement
13 Nov 2008

8. Foreseen departures in coming 18 months + succession planning
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Foreseen departures in coming 18 months + succession planning
Name
Contract End
Additional Info
Succession
Edo SBRISSA
05/10
Pre-Retirement Program (50%) + Saved leave. Only a few working weeks left
Gilles Maire + team
Roland REY-MERMIER
08/09
Saved leave / practically absent in 2009
20-30% of new LD
PH-DT LD
Stéphane RANGOD
10/09
3.5 months of leave to take
Follow up of projects will be absorbed in DT
José MULON -
Early retirement in 08/09
New LD in Cat. 4
André Ferrand
12/09
Most likely only partly available in 2009 due to health problems
No dedicated replacement; activities to be absorbed in DT-EM1
Daniel FRAISSARD
Early retirement end-2009
DT technician to be formed as successor (Gluing Lab.)
Ron PINTUS
06/10
Activities to be absorbed in CMS
Francoise COSSEY-PUGET
Early retirement in mid-2009
Decrease of work-load in Bond Lab.
Jean-Claude LABBE
On sick leave since > 1 year
13 Nov 2008

9. FTE’s versus Activity in 2008
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
FTE’s versus Activity in 2008
FTE %
LHC Experiments (direct) 53
64%
R&D 10
12%
General Services
Other (Work-shops, Safety, Admin.) 6 7%
Non LHC Experiments 5 6%
Total DT Group
84 FTE’s
100%
The LHC part increases to > 80%
if one includes R&D and Services that
are dedicated to the LHC experiments
13 Nov 2008

10. Construction Projects and Design Studies
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Construction Projects
Construction Projects and Design Studies
M&O
Services
2008
2009
2010
2011
ALICE HMPID
2.2
ALICE Tech. Support
5.5
ALICE TPC
2.5
ATLAS ALFA
1.5
0.5
ATLAS ID
3.9
ATLAS Tech. Support
2.1
CMS ECAL
1.3
CMS Pre-shower
3.5
2.7
CMS Tech. Support
1.0
CMS Tracker
LHCb Muon
LHCb RICH
2.9
LHCb Tech. Support
1.8
TOTEM RP
4.1
1.2
TOTEM T1/T2
0.4
Gas Systems
3.7
Magnet Control
3.0
Total LHC Construction
44.1
6.8
ATLAS Upgrade
0.8
0.9
CMS Upgrade
0.1
0.3
LHCb Upgrade
1.6
ALICE Upgrade
0.2
Total LHC Upgrade
1.4
3.2
3.3
Cloud
0.7
T2K Field Mapper + MSS
2.3
0.6
NA48/62
AD / AEGIS
Total Non LHC
R&D
LHC constructions
end mostly in
2008/09
LHC Construction
LHC Upgrade
Existing
commitments only
(preliminary)
Non- LHC
13 Nov 2008

11. Existing M&O Projects LHC Non - LHC 2008 ALICE Operation
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Construction Projects
M&O
Services
Existing M&O Projects
R&D
2008
ALICE Operation
LHCb Operation
Gas M&O
4.4
Magnet M&O
2.7
ATLAS Operation
CMS Operation
TOTEM Operation
Total LHC
7.0
NA48/62
1.1
CAST M&O
1.4
Total Non - LHC
2.5
LHC
Non - LHC
13 Nov 2008

12. First experience after 6 months of operation:
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
Various items
Construction Projects
Gas Piquet Interventions
M&O
Services
R&D
First experience after 6 months of operation:
Interventions outside Working hours:
In average 1.5 Interventions per week
In total 38 Interventions over 25 weeks
ALICE 1 3%
ATLAS 23
61%
CMS 10
26%
LHCb 2 5%
TOTEM
13 Nov 2008

13. Piquet is operational since 2006 During 2008
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
Various items
Construction Projects
M&O
Magnet, DSS, RCS, Piquet Interventions
Services
R&D
Piquet is operational since 2006
During 2008
In average 4.7 interventions per week (2 outside working hours).
In total 185 Interventions over 39 weeks (~50% outside working hours)
ALICE 6 3%
ATLAS 85
46%
CMS 74
40%
LHCb 20
11%
13 Nov 2008

14. Services Preliminary 2008 2009 2010 2011 Responsible
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Construction Projects
M&O
Services
R&D
Services
Responsible
2008
2009
2010
2011
B-Field Measurements
F. Bergsma
1.4
2.0
1.5
Bond. Lab. / DSF
M. Moll, M. Glaser
2.6
2.3
1.8
Gas Support (non LHC)
S. Haider
0.4
0.6
Glueing Techniques
D. Fraissard
0.7
1.0
0.5
Irrad. Facilities
M. Moll
1.2
1.9
Magnet Support (non LHC)
D. Perini
0.3
0.9
Rad. Mon.
1.6
Scintillators
A. Folley
Thin Film
A. Braem
2.7
2.9
Optical Lab.
D. Piedigrossi
0.2
Total Services
11.0
11.9
11.4
11.7
Preliminary
13 Nov 2008

15. Future fellows and students not yet included.
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Construction Projects
M&O
Services
R&D
R&D Projects
2008
2009
2010
2011
WP4 / RD50
2.5
2.8
1.3
0.6
WP5 / RD51
5.2
6.8
4.5
1.7
WP6 / QC
0.5
1.1
WP7
1.6
2.0
0.8
AX-PET
0.2
0.1
X-HPD
Mech. Eng.
Total R&D
9.7
12.5
8.5
4.3
Future fellows and students not yet included.
Preliminary
67% are Fellows, Doctoral or Technical Students.
13 Nov 2008

16. M&O for LHC experiments
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
M&O for LHC experiments
General approach
DT contributes to the completion and consolidation of the (approved) detector
DT participates in the operation and maintenance of the sub-detectors with DT (or CERN) involvement. This may also include participation in (central) shifts, RPA interventions, etc.
DT prepares and executes shutdown work
DT maintains lab infrastructure, equipment, documentation, etc. required for maintenance and repair.
Scope and foreseen resources are agreed in M&O WPs, one for each LHC experiment.
Upgrade work is in general not included in the M&O WP. (LHCb VELO replacement (~1:1) is included.)
13 Nov 2008

17. M&O Projects LHC Non - LHC 2008 2009 2010 2011 WPs agreed Requires
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
M&O Projects
2008
2009
2010
2011
ALICE Operation
8.3
6.7
LHCb Operation
5.3
3.8
Gas M&O
4.4
7.0
6.5
Magnet M&O
2.7
3.5
ATLAS Operation
4.1
CMS Operation
3.0
1.2
0.7
TOTEM Operation
1.4
0.1
Total LHC
32.6
25.9
25.4
NA48/62
1.1
CAST M&O
1.3
1.0
Total Non - LHC
2.5
WPs agreed
Requires
2nd iteration
LHC
Preliminary.
WPs in
preparation
Non - LHC
13 Nov 2008

18. Outlook on possible new projects
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Outlook on possible new projects
Present Status of Resource Allocation
2009
2010
Available FTE’s 85
76-80
Allocated FTE’s
77.5
~60
Difference
~7.5
16-20
Envisaged boards/new jobs in 2009
Foreseen LDIC cases
Gas group, Tech. cat. 3, 1 slot
Tech. cat. 4, 1 slot
Designer, 1 slot
New positions
Tech. cat. 3, LD, electro-mech., position open
Tech., cat 3/4, LD, comp. for PH safety office
Tech., cat. 3/4, LD, repl. Mulon
Magnet expert, M&O, R&D, repl. Foussat, cat. 2
Eng., cooling ?, cat 2.
not included!
: DT and SFT will profit from 3 PhD students and 1 postdoc via the Marie Curie Network MC-PAD.
13 Nov 2008

19. General approach for new projects
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
General approach for new projects
Avoid fragmentation into too many mini projects (~1-2 FTE)
Collaborate with experiment’s CERN group
Try to apply available expertise and infrastructure (DSF, bond lab, thin film lab, irradiation facilities, mechanical workshops, gluing lab...)
Find interesting projects to keep phys/eng/tech up to date in new technologies
Aim for ~2-3 main projects with major hardware deliverable
+ a couple of smaller projects.
+ engineering/integration/installation support
First discussions took place…
ATLAS upgrade: pixel endcap, m-strip tracker endcap)
CMS upgrade: cooling (see next slide), muon RPCs, beam monitoring, humidity measurement
ALICE upgrade: HMPID
LHCb upgrade: VELO upgrade (40 MHz)
TOTEM upgrade: Large GEM (T1), part of WP5
NA62: Giga tracker, Straw tracker, gas systems, controls, (RICH ?)
13 Nov 2008

20. Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Engineering R&D
(discussion forum, all LHC experiments + DT participating, moderated by L.Linssen)
We expressed interest to participate in a couple of common engineering R&D activities, e.g.
Detector cooling
DT/CMX/AT-CRG intend to study suitability of CO2 cooling for large scale detectors. Pilot case: New CMS pixel det.; Timescale 18 months.
Could be extended ...
Reverse engineering = 3D models for high accuracy reconstruction of built structures. DT/TS-SU. 1 shared fellow requested. Time scale 2 years.
Material for future detectors (structural, thermal, radiation hard, pipework and joining techniques).
13 Nov 2008

21. APT Status Preliminary data for 2009/10 in APT DT PH-Dep.
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
APT Status
Work Units
2009
2010
2011
PH-DT LHC Detector Magnet M&O
3.5
PH-DT LHC Detector Gas M&O
7.0
6.5
PH-DT Gas Support (non LHC)
0.6
PH-DT Magnet Support (non LHC)
2.7
2.4
2.5
PH-DT-Group
11.7
8.8
7.1
PH-DT Radiation Tests
2.6
2.2
PH-DT Si. Facility and Bonding Lab
2.3
1.8
PH-DT Special Labs
3.8
3.7
3.9
PH-DT Miscellaneous
7.5
16.1
17.5
Sub-total
41.6
45.6
WP4
2.8
1.3
WP5
6.8
4.5
1.7
WP6
0.5
1.1
WP7
2.0
0.8
PH Safety Office
1.0
13.1
9.2
5.2
LHCb Operation
5.3
LHCb Upgrade
0.1
1.6
ALICE Management + Operation
8.1
6.4
ALICE Test Beam
0.2
0.3
Not yet discussed
16.9
8.7
7.6
sub-total
30.5
20.8
19.7
Total
85.2
75.6
70.5
Preliminary data
for 2009/10 in APT DT
PH-Dep.
Data available, but not
yet in APT
Data available
Experiments
Will be completed soon
13 Nov 2008

22. Space issues Departmental Silicon Facility (DSF)
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Space issues
Departmental Silicon Facility (DSF)
Alan Honma (CMXDT from 2009) will be in charge of DSF and bondlab.
DSF space attribution needs to be re-discussed in 2009 (1 year after detector commissioning).
13 Nov 2008
M.Moll – PH-DT meeting 07 Nov

23. used for CMS ECAL endcap preparation, and LHCb VELO assembly
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Space issues
Hall 168, ‘Crystal Palace’,
used for CMS ECAL endcap preparation, and LHCb VELO assembly
Agreement with CMS that Crystal Palace becomes available for DT.
VELO area (somewhat extended), will be used for VELO replacement.
13 Nov 2008
M.Moll – PH-DT meeting 07 Nov

24. B 154: Clean / half clean lab space.
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Space issues
B 154: Clean / half clean lab space.
DT Gas detector lab
Clean Room.
Used by ATLAS Pixel team (storage)
Clean room should be made available in order to recondition it for future projects (LHC upgrade).
13 Nov 2008
M.Moll – PH-DT meeting 07 Nov

25. Proposal by PH management & DT
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Detector cooling
Proposal by PH management & DT
Launch a common detector cooling activity in PH-DT (in analogy to gas systems activity).
The initial mandate comprises
Build up theoretical and practical expertise for future ‘advanced’ detector cooling systems (PFC, CO2, not H2O)
Supports consolidation efforts for existing detector cooling systems
Develop thermal management solutions for detector upgrades
Contribute to standardization (equipment, controls)
Experiments
Experiments define
clear interfaces and internal structure for all cooling related issues.
Experiments
Experiments
A new Detector Cooling Working Group with a clear and strong mandate, steers the consolidation and R&D efforts.
Experiments
Detector Cooling Working Group
PH cooling activity
EN/ICE
EN/CV
TE/CRG
13 Nov 2008

26. The initial cooling team in DT could comprise :
Structure and organization
2008 activities
LHC M&O
Possible new projects
APT status
Various items
Detector cooling
 Scope of Detector Cooling WG 
The initial cooling team in DT could comprise :
1 engineer
3-4 technicians
1 doct. student
Lab space (available)
Mechanical support (available)
Synergies with DT gas systems and magnet controls
A second engineer (cooling) expert should be added in 2009.
PH intends to create a R&D WP (White paper funds) for cooling.
13 Nov 2008