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What’s Working in Today’s Note World?
Gerald A Lemoine President
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How I got into Real Estate
Development in Steamboat Springs, CO late 1990’s Bought undeveloped land Improved roads and installed utilities Sold 35 buildable lots in 18 months for $150k profit
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Education Ward Hanigan foreclosure training 2003
Bruce Norris boot camp 2005 Weekend seminars Jack Miller Peter Fortunato John Schaub Dyches Boddiford Gary Johnston & Clyde Wilson Mike Cantu Rick Harmon Jack Shea
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Some Thoughts on Note Investing
Contrary to popular belief, not all deals are winners Think of portfolio as a mutual fund – basket of notes Diversify – don’t put all your capital into one note Don’t be afraid to make mistakes If you’ve never lost money on a deal you’re probably not doing that many deals ( playing it safe) Rare to make homerun on 1st, more likely on 2nds. Be patient – pick the right time to pursue aggressive collection. Could be 3-4 years after purchase.
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Recent transactions Purchase pool of 60 notes $4.9mm UPB for $500k
Purchase Perf CA 1st $225k UPB $390,000 Payoff on Phoenix 2nd for $117k Cost $18k Profit $99k Payoff on Carlsbad 2nd for $152k Cost $72k Profit $80k Payoff on Orange, CA note for $120k Cost $15k Profit $105k Brokered pool of 20 notes – fee of $75,000 Payoff on San Marcos 2nd for $132k, Cost $75k Profit $57k Payoff on LA 2nd for $160,000 Cost $90k Profit $70k
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Las Vegas Life Estate
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Las Vegas Life Estate Purchase Las Vegas house at receivership auction
Property value $210,000 Winning bid $40,700 Subject to Life Estate with 92 yo occupant Offered $55,000 next day
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Las Vegas Life Estate
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San Diego foreclosure
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San Diego foreclosure Property value $2,650,000
Senior mortgage $1,950,000 Purchased $100k JR lien for $35k (payoff $180k) Judgement for $600k and IRS lien for $600k Foreclosed on JR lien Oct 2016 Wait 120 days for IRS redemption period to expire SR lien delinquent – Filed FC in Jan 2017
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San Diego foreclosure
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Partials - How can payments be split?
Time Amount Note should have fairly high yield to be feasible
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Performing Monterey note – Improve yield
I/YR PV MT FV Disc 60 12.0 150,000 1,500 15.5 132,000 12% 19.3 115,000 23% Sell partial 9.5 75,000 594 34.0 40,000 906 Total
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Performing WI note – Re-capitalize
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Where we’re finding notes?
Private individuals – mailed 5,000 letters NOD list – Property Radar, County Records Research Referrals Hedge funds Direct from small banks Servicing companies – FCI Exchange Websites – Loan MLS, Auction.com, Loanmarket.net Buy & Hold note investor – We don’t sell much
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Typical Outcomes Performing on a temporary payment plan, usually interest only. Performing on a permanent loan mod. Performing on the original terms of the loan. Short payoff Full payoff Foreclose and sell the property Foreclose and keep the property as a rental “subject to” the existing 1st mortgage. Owner signs Quit Claim deed to us for cash payment (Cash for keys)
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Unfavorable Outcomes Lien strip in a Chapter 13 bankruptcy.
Wiped out by foreclosure of Senior lender No collection activity due to negative equity or delinquent 1st (loan on hold)
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Deals Gone Wrong Dayton, OH 1st mortgage
Purchased note for $12,750 in June 2010 Expenses of $26,400 Income of $13,000 Results in loss of $26,150 San Clemente, CA 2nd mortgage Purchased note for $42,000 Expenses of $102,000 Sold property for $140,000 subject to 1st mtg Loss of $4,000
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Note Performance How do you know if an offer is good or not?
What is the real return for complex workouts?
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Financial Calculator Calculate monthly payment at fixed rate
Solve for yield based on discounted purchase price Solve for yield using IRR (Internal rate of return). Use for uneven cash flows. HP10Bii Calculator for smart phone
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Basic Payment Calculation
Borrower owes $100,000
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Basic Payment Calculation
Monthly payment calculated at $600/month
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Solve for Yield (I) Purchase $100k loan for $15k and negotiate
payment of $400/mo for 140 months.
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Solve for Yield (I) Yield to investor of 31%
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Memphis 1st Mtg Details
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Memphis 1st Mtg Cash Flow
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Memphis 1st Mtg Cash Flow $494/mo
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Memphis 1st Mtg Cash Flow $350/mo
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Miami 2nd
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Miami 2nd
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Miami pay plan
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Miami 2nd – 360 mo pay plan Total collected $193,120
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Miami 2nd Why did I choose to buy this note? Pride of ownership
Upgraded property with pool and landscaping Newer property built in 2004, original owner Borrower had decent credit Area with appreciating values Other factors Negative equity when note purchased
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Make it Better? Sell a partial 8% interest rate
120 payments of $485/month Purchase amount of $39,975
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How can payments be split?
Time Amount Note should have fairly high yield to be feasible
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Calculation of Partial
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Tools
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Gerald A Lemoine President Phone: 866-935-5211 Ext 8050
Fax: Website: Monthly Note meeting: 2nd Wednesday of every month, 6:30 PM 11088 Trask Ave, Garden Grove
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