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1 IMPACT 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza1 Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty Model uncertainty How uncertain are your modelling results?

2 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza2 Session 19 divides into two sections: This Session (#19): Overview of uncertainty analysis aims & objectives Analysis of uncertainty in breach modelling –Findings and conclusions for breach modelling Mark Morris ~ 25 mins Analysis of uncertainty in flood propagation –Findings and conclusions for propagation modelling Overall conclusions & observations Q&A Francisco Alcrudo ~ 25+10 mins

3 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza3 IMPACT: Modelling uncertainty: Sediment Movement [WP4] Flood Propagation [WP3] Breach Formation [WP2] Assessment of modelling uncertainty Implications for End User Applications [WP5] Geophysics / Field Data [WP6]

4 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza4 Why do this? Dambreak modelling requires a high degree of modelling expertise / experience. Uncertainties in the modelling process are higher than for ‘normal’ river modelling work. Flood risk management may be performed more effectively if additional information is given supporting ‘best estimates’.

5 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza5 Aims & objectives: Investigate uncertainty within modelling predictions for breach, flood propagation and sediment transport Demonstrate how uncertainty within each of these modelling domains contributes towards overall uncertainty in predicting final conditions (e.g. water levels at specific locations) Consider the implications of the magnitude of uncertainty found in terms of use by ‘end users’

6 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza6 Scope of work under IMPACT The scope of work under IMPACT: does not allow for an investigation of uncertainty in the impact of flooding or the assessment / management of flood risk does not allow for development of extensive, statistical analysis techniques [Simple, practical assessment of likely order of magnitude of uncertainty]

7 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza7 Progress to date Understanding the problem Development of approach Recognition of limitations for sediment modelling Selection of case studies Implementation for breach modelling Implementation for propagation modelling Analysis and conclusions  (!)  ?   .. ..

8 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza8 Development of approach... A slow process that ended with a simple practicable but perhaps non rigorous approach balancing the need to analyse the problem with limitations in time and budget (the real world!) The main arguments: –Fully rigorous statistically based analysis model by model and also linking of models –Removal of subjective - expert judgement type stages –Simple, practicable approach allowing indicative answer within acceptable time / budgets Natural 

9 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza9 Approach taken... Sediments: Recognition that current ability to model sediment movement under dambreak / extreme flood conditions was limited Progress has been made (Yves Zech / Sandra Soares) but not sufficient to allow assessment of uncertainty

10 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza10 (Simple) Overview of approach 1Adopt the concept of using upper, mid and lower estimates of modelling results parameter (e.g. flood hydrograph, water level) 2Assess uncertainty in breach model leading to upper / mid / lower flood hydrographs 3Assess uncertainty in propagation models using 3 flood hydrographs from breach modelling as input conditions (leading to nine propagation predictions) 4Select upper, mid, lower estimates for presentation of results to end user

11 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza11 Some issues Need to balance expert judgement (subjectivity): –What does upper, mid, lower mean? –What model parameters do you vary to create these? –Different models use different parameters - how do you compare these? Run time and flexibility of models dictates approach: –Differences between similar model types (rel small) –Differences between breach and propagation (significant)

12 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza12 Selection of case studies: Very difficult to find extensive, reliable data sets… –Ongoing problem…forensics team? Two case studies selected: –Tous Dam Failure (breach & propagation) –Lake Ha!Ha! (sediments)

13 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza13 Uncertainty in breach modelling Basic process: Sensitivity analysis to modelling parameters Selection of top 3-5 parameters; identification of realistic parameter range and distribution Monte Carlo analysis Review and selection of upper, mid & lower hydrographs Modelling undertaken by 3 organisations / 3 different models Selection of overall upper, mid, lower

14 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza14 Modelling with HR BREACH –1D flow model - piping and overtopping –Soil erosion through shear stress / sediment transport; no predefinition of breach growth –Integrated soil mechanics for lateral and longitudinal discreet slope failure (undercutting etc) –Surface protection simulation –Composite structure and associated failure mechanisms –Variable sediment equations, adjustable probability distribution for slope failure (uncertainty in soils), –Monte Carlo facility

15 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza15 Sensitivity analysis

16 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza16 Monte Carlo simulations 5 parameters varied for MC analysis 1600 MC runs undertaken –< than statistical requirement –little difference in results from 3 parameter MC analysis No failure - only overtopping Failure distribution

17 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza17 All upper-mid-lower results

18 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza18 Modelling with Rupro (Cemagref) –Aim: providing an outflow hydrograph from piping or overtopping –Simplified assumptions: average breach cross- section, sediment transport using Meyer Peter Müller equation with sediment described by only one representative diameter and one friction coefficient –Advantages: very rapid calculation, few parameters to test can be integrated in 1-D and 2-D propagation models thus cascade breaching or dike breaching easy to calculate –Disadvantages: difficulty to assess parameters in case of complex structure of the dam

19 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza19 Modelling with Rupro (Cemagref) Uncertainty calculations –Step 1: what are the parameters to which outflow hydrograph is sensitive? –Step 2: select the three main parameters and 5 values for each (very low, low, average, high, very high) to which a probability is associated 18 : 45 /19 : 3324924 / 13600not limited / 36 m Maximum breach width 21 : 51 / 25 : 026196 / 16700250 / 0.08sediment diameter (mm) 24 : 19 / 21 : 3617070 / 2030026.5 / 20Breach Strickler friction coefficient 21 : 36 / 20 : 5320300 / 1530053 / 70Breach bottom elevation (m) Time of peak outflow Peak outflow (m3/s) Values of parameter Parameter considered

20 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza20 Modelling with Rupro (Cemagref) Uncertainty calculations –Step 3: calculation for all combinations (125) and ranking hydrographs by peak outflows to obtain 5, 10, 50, 90 and 95 % occurrences.

21 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza21 Breach Model DEICH_P Breach Formation

22 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza22 Breach Model DEICH_P Breach Formation without core

23 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza23 Breach Model DEICH_P Breach Formation with core

24 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza24 Selected upper-mid-lower results

25 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza25 Some observations… Q p varies between +50% (~22,500m 3 /s) and -17% (~12,500m 3 /s) –BUT, what don’t forget that non failed data has been removed Timing influenced by inflow data, but upper-lower still shows ~2.75hr difference

26 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza26 Some observations… How do our best estimate results compare to mid values? –Mid  Best estimate

27 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza27 Some observations… Choice of sediment transport equation worth a closer look… –analysis was prompted by a bug in our MC routine - looking for way to model in homogeneous rather than composite form –considered 2 sediment transport equations (cohesive / non cohesive); core and outer layer material parameters –highlights the importance of selecting the right sediment relationship –highlights the effect of assuming a homogeneous bank

28 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza28 Some conclusions (breach uncertainty) Uncertainty range for Qp for Tous study was ~ +50% -17% –Note - this includes uncertainty from 3 models / modellers. Range from 1 model / modeller will appear less. Modeller best estimate was better than ‘mid’ estimate (for this case). –Skill of modeller will play a significant part –Routine use of mid value not necessarily the best

29 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza29 Some conclusions (breach uncertainty) Understanding the sensitivity of models to different parameters is essential –different models will include different parameters –model sensitivity to parameters will vary from model to model All breach models have one or more parameters relating distribution of shear stress / sediment / erosion / breach growth. –This parameter is usually hidden but has a major influence on results –Care is required to validate particular parameter values for each application

30 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza30 Some conclusions (breach uncertainty) Application of Monte Carlo approach is ‘better’ than sensitivity analysis, but the process requires a quick running model for practicality –Current breach models are on the limit of practicability for MC analysis Current breach models are not well designed to predict the timing of breach initiation –current models are very sensitive to boundary conditions (ie defined flow, water level etc) rather than actually predicting the onset of breach

31 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza31 Some conclusions (breach uncertainty) Breach model results are highly dependent upon choice of sediment transport equation –No existing equations are ideal (steady state, long term…) –selection of most appropriate equation for case application should be done (look at conditions that equation was developed for)

32 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza32 Some conclusions (breach uncertainty) Simulation of composite or homogeneous structures and assumptions of averaged soil properties can significantly affect results –Variations in Qp of >300% can be seen when different assumptions / sed equations are made (compared to +- 50% for earlier uncertainty range) –Therefore use appropriate model (composite or homogeneous) & appropriate equation. Be wary of assuming homogeneous for a composite structure...

33 IMPACT Investigation of extreme flood Processes and uncertainty 4 November 20044th IMPACT Workshop - Zaragoza33 Beyond IMPACT… Awaiting DSIG work with interest FLOODsite - Task 20 “Development of framework for the influence and impact of uncertainty” “…develop an approach and prototype software for propagating uncertainty through integrated flood risk models…” –University Bristol (UK) & IHE (Delft) under theme lead from HR - > 60 mm research –www.floodsite.net ----------


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