GRB – ASEP – 08 Criteria to compare proposals Den Hagg – September 2007.

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GRB – ASEP – 08 Criteria to compare proposals Den Hagg – September 2007

Proposals -F/D proposal  GRBIG-ASEP F/D proposal with D improvement  GRB-IG-ASEP F/D proposal with F improvement  GRB-IG-ASEP F/D proposal with option for a limit derived anchor point  GRB-IG-ASEP Chairman proposal  GRB-IG-ASEP OICA proposal  GRBIG-ASEP We can check 6 proposals or improvement of proposal :

Engine speed Speed Acceleration Vehicle noise Vehicle Measurement Models concepts Vehicle behaviour One Reference point : L ref (x ref) is derived from annex 3 result and/or limit (and additional elements as L tyre and PMR) x ref = N ref and/or V ref and/or a ref are derived from Annex 3 result and/or additional elements One noise vehicle behaviour : L limit (N, V, a) is derived from L ref (x ref) by applying a model and a tolerance L ref x ref L limit Gear i Tolerance Each concept is based on the same construction :

REFERENCE POINT L refN refV refa ref F/D proposalL wot iN wot iV wot i- F/D proposal with D improvement L wot i limit derived from L urban limit & L tyre & PMR N urban50 kph- F/D proposal with F improvementL wot iN wot iV wot i- F/D proposal with option for a limit derived anchor point L wot i limit derived from L urban limit L urban & L wot i As F/D - Chairman proposalL urban limit-50 kpha urban OICA proposalL wot iN wot i-- Reference point The reference point is based on Annex 3 result and/or limit and additional statistical results :

Vehicle noise behaviour LIMIT CONCEPT Model Slope behaviour Reference point Limit plotting Gear ratio F/D proposal vehicle physics Typical engine physics Vehicle (annexe 3 derived) Point by point From Tyre noise F/D proposal with D improvement vehicle physics Typical engine physics statistical with tyre noise correction Point by point From Tyre noise F/D proposal with F improvement vehicle physics Typical engine physics Vehicle Line for each gear ratio From Tyre noise F/D proposal with option for a limit derived anchor point vehicle physics Typical engine physics Vehicle with additionnal tolerance for silent vehicle As F/DFrom Tyre noise Chairman proposalstatisticalStatisticalstatistical Point by point From acceleration OICA proposalLinear vehicle fit Individual vehicle physics vehicleLine? The vehicle noise behaviour is based on differents approach from individual to statistics :

Uncertainties and dispersions To choose the method, we need to study 2 points Vehicle noise L ref x ref L limit Vehicle noise The uncertainties to determine the reference point and vehicle noise behaviour Spread of “normal” vehicles compared to the model Vehicle measurement Vehicle behaviour Proposal 1 Proposal 2 Proposal 3

F/D proposalF/D proposal with F improvement F/D proposal with option for a limit derived anchor point F/D proposal with D improvement Chairman proposal OICA proposal Uncertainties : influents Factors Reference pointL wot i N wot i V wot i As F/D L tyre -L wot i N wot i Limit line or point L tyre N wot V wot L tyre 50 kph N wot V wot As F/D a wot V wot L wot N wot Dispersion : Influents factors Reference point and slope Engine noise slope vs engine speed Engine and vehicle noise noise slope As F/DEngine noise slope N urban Vehicle noise slope vs speed and acceleration a urban Regression Tolerance between vehicle noise behaviour and limit [2] dB[1] dBAs F/D[1] dB[ ] dB[2] dB dB / 1000 rpm Additional tolerance on Reference point --L wot limit from L urban limit and L wot L wot limit from L urban limit L urban limit - Influent factors must be check and study one by one : Uncertainties, dispersions and tolerances The tolerance will be adjust to discriminate “normal” vehicles to “abnormal” vehicles

Conclusions  for all proposals using an ASEP limit linked with L urban limit  L ASEP is a function of L urban limit and additional data(s)  All proposals can be link with L urban limit not to discriminate silent vehicles  All method present uncertainties on ASEP limit  Three following points need to be checked to compare proposals : - Uncertainties on the limit - Spread of normal vehicle compare to each model - Tolerance necessary to discriminate “normal” to “abnormal” vehicles