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1 Looking at Cyclical Stocks Gretchen Hurt Director, NAIC Computer Group Presented by James Hurt Growth Stock Cyclical Stock Income Stock

2 Not all stocks are growth stocks. Income Stocks Cyclical Stocks

3 Cyclical companies follow the economy. –Fundamentals grow when economy is improving –Fundamentals decline when the economy declines

4 Cyclical Stocks Two types of Cyclical Stocks –Durable Goods--track the economy and interest rates –Basic Materials-- track the price of the commodity they sell Price follows supply and demand Found in certain industries

5 Cyclical Industries Financial Sector –Property & Casualty Insurance –REITS Industrial Sector –Construction –Farm Machinery –Heavy Trucks

6 Cyclical Industries Basic Materials Sector –Aluminum –Chemicals –Iron & Steel –Paper & Forest products Technology Sector –Semiconductors

7 Cyclical Industries Consumer Cyclical Sector –Automotive (including parts & tires) –Airlines –Home Construction & Furnishings –Leisure Goods & Services Casinos, Restaurants, Toys, etc. –Clothing & Footwear –Retail –Media (Advertising, Entertainment, etc).

8 Cyclical List from Includes Five Industries

9 Cyclical Stocks Beginning investors should avoid investing in cyclical companies. –Require more knowledge about investing –Have to be somewhat contrarian –Be aware of where the economy and the company are in their cycle.

10 Cyclicals Require More Work Always asking yourself is this an economic downturn or a problem with the company? –More knowledgeable about investing Includes things like the financial statements –More knowledgeable about the company and the industry Industry problems or opportunities

11 SSG For A Cyclical Don’t expect “railroad tracks.” In well managed company’s, price does not plunge when fundamentals drop. SSG does not look like a growth company.

12 SSG For A Cyclical The management numbers in Section 2 will go down with the fundamentals. This is not a sign of bad management.

13 Be Contrarian In order to get the greatest price appreciation, invest in cyclical stocks when the economy is near the bottom of a cycle. Buy when the fundamentals are down and just beginning to improve. –Gives you the greatest price appreciation –Often means you are buying when the P/E is high.

14 SSG for Cyclical Invest when the fundamentals are starting to recover. Often that is when P/Es are the highest.

15 Projecting Growth Projecting the future sales and earnings growth on cyclicals is much more difficult. Historical growth rates may only be of limited value. Knowledge of company and industry are crucial.

16 Textbook Example Definite peaks and valleys. Use the Peak to Peak Method for Projections. Probably nearing a new peak.

17 Projecting Growth Worthington Industries A more typical example. Historic sales and earnings growth rates are of limited value.

18 Cyclicals That Pay Dividends Cyclicals will pay dividends even when earnings drop.

19 Growth Cyclicals Some cyclical stocks will behave like growth companies. –Look like a growth company –Analyze them like a growth company. Beginner investors who want to invest in a cyclical should select a growth cyclical.

20 Graco Inc This company manufactures equipment for many cyclical industries. They look like a growth company but are cyclical. 21.9

21 Selecting a Low Price For a growth cyclical select the Average low price which is 4Bb. For a cyclical stock select the recent severe low price which is 4Bc. –May want to look at low prices for last ten years. Cyclical Stocks