The art of requesting and negotiating for data NICAR 2012 David Hunn, St. Louis Post-Dispatch Jennifer LaFleur, ProPublica.

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The art of requesting and negotiating for data NICAR 2012 David Hunn, St. Louis Post-Dispatch Jennifer LaFleur, ProPublica

Where’s the data? If something is inspected Licensed Enforced or Purchased ….There probably is a database

Be prepared Do your homework – check the annual FOI reports for federal agencies – or AG rules for state agencies Follow up on your requests If you are denied records, file an appeal Get copies of retention schedules - example example

What does FOIA cover? U.S. federal agency records Paper, electronic, tape recordings, data Sometimes (but not always) government contractor’s records Does not cover Congress The Courts Answers to questions

The nine exemptions to FOIA 1. National Security 2. Internal agency personnel rules 3. Information exempt by other laws 4. Trade secrets 5. Internal agency memoranda 6. Personal privacy 7. Law enforcement investigations 8. Federally regulated banks 9. Oil and gas wells

Don’t count on what you need being one of the “high-value” data sets That doesn’t mean you can’t request via FOIA

What do state laws cover? State, city and county governments Police departments Sheriff’s departments State and municipal courts School districts Charter schools Quasi-governmental agencies

State records laws Many are similar to FOIA – but differ as what organizations are covered, exemptions and procedures. Some states have an administrative appeal process. TX – Required to go to AG MO – Rep must ask for ruling CA – Good luck

Some basic steps Before filing a request: Ask for it If they require a formal request, find out who it should go to and what you should ask for Letter should describe what you’re asking for  Note that you’re willing to negotiate  Ask for a cost estimate

Getting electronic information Know the law. Know how your state treats (or doesn’t) the records you need. Know what information you want. Do your homework Know what the appropriate cost should be. Know who does the data entry. Get to know Leon When something may not clearly be public use your sourcing

A check list to help negotiate for data, of all kinds (in a perfect world):

1. Figure out who physically holds the information. 2. Ask for a tour of the office and data (with the media spokesperson if necessary). 3. Sit down with the person who works with the data most. 4. Ask them to explain the data, in detail, including their own definitions of all the fields. 5. Ask them how long it would take them to create the data set for which you are asking. 6. Ask for a data "dictionary," training manual, program instructions, or literature that describes the data.

7. Bring a flash drive with you. 8. If that doesn't work, ask for the name of the official “custodian of records” for that particular dataset. 9. Request the "record layout," the list of all fields in the database. 10. Figure out which fields you want. 11. Read the law, and case law. Know what is clearly open, clearly closed, and up for debate.

12. Weigh legal consequences v. speed. 13. Write the request. Use a consistent form that includes issues of timeline, expense, and any fee waiver. 14. Send the request to the “custodian of records.” 15. Call the custodian and make sure he or she got it. 16. Follow up, nearly every day, until the data is ready. 17. If the data isn't ready on time, write a story.

Just another way of saying no Huge costs Delay tactics “Oh you silly little journalist” Sending you the wrong thing “Your request was unclear” HIPAA Privacy Privatization

Negotiating: Some examples

Our database is on a mainframe and it’s very complicated, Missy

We don’t have the authority to do that

That will cost $25,000.

We have processed your request. The labor cost for the request is as follows. Item # of hours RESEARCH 20 CREATING FILES 6 CODING24 TESTING 4 Total (54 X$72) = $3,888.00

Estimates and Waivers of Public Information Charges (a) A governmental body is required to provide a requestor with an itemized statement of estimated charges if charges for copies of public information will exceed $40, or if a charge in accordance with § of this title (relating to Access to Information Where Copies Are Not Requested) will exceed $40 for making public information available for inspection. A governmental body that fails to provide the required statement may not collect more than $40. The itemized statement must be provided free of charge and must contain the following information :

We only keep the information for 7 days

That uses proprietary software.

We don’t keep that on computer

Okay, we do, but it’s a lot of files

That information is protected by law

We’ve had some good outcomes…

And some never end… Nov – update of state personnel database

Resources: Investigative Reporters and Editors – The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press: Justice Department’s FOIA page (includes links to FOIA officials and annual reports) A copy of this presentation will be available at