Is Junia For Real? The Ongoing Journey of the C&MA and Women’s Ordination Doug Doyle Fort McMurray Alliance Church August 5, 2012.

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Is Junia For Real? The Ongoing Journey of the C&MA and Women’s Ordination Doug Doyle Fort McMurray Alliance Church August 5, 2012

“God said it! I believe it! That settles it for me!!!” ~ classic evangelical preacher

☐ 1. Be holy because I, the Lord your God, am holy (19:2) ☐ 2. You must observe my Sabbaths. I am the Lord your God. (19:3) ☐ 3. When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the Lord your God. (19:9-10). ☐ 4. Do not go about spreading slander among your people. (19:16)

☐ 5. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing worn of two kinds of material. (19:19) ☐ 6. Do not eat meat with the blood still in it. (19:26) ☐ 7. Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard. ☐ 8. Do not … put tattoo makes on yourselves. I am the Lord. (19:28) ☐ 9. Stand up in the presence of the aged. (19:32) ☐ 10. Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them. I am the Lord. (19:37)

☐ 1. Be holy because I, the Lord your God, am holy (19:2) ☐ 2. You must observe my Sabbaths. I am the Lord your God. (19:3) ☐ 3. When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the Lord your God. (19:9-10). ☐ 4. Do not go about spreading slander among your people. (19:16)

☐ 5. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing worn of two kinds of material. (19:19) ☐ 6. Do not eat meat with the blood still in it. (19:26) ☐ 7. Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard. ☐ 8. Do not … put tattoo makes on yourselves. I am the Lord. (19:28) ☐ 9. Stand up in the presence of the aged. (19:32) ☐ 10. Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them. I am the Lord. (19:37)

Rabbinic Prayer: Praise be Thou, O lord, who did not make me a gentile. Praise be Thou, O Lord, who did not make me a boor; Praise be Thou, O Lord, who did not make me a woman. ~ The Tosefta Berakot 7.18 The Greek male was taught to be grateful: “that I am born a human being and not a beat, next a man and not a woman, thirdly, a Greek and not a barbarian.”

Is Junia For Real? The Ongoing Journey of the C&MA and Women’s Ordination Doug Doyle Fort McMurray Alliance Church August 5, 2012

34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 | NIV

8 Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or disputing. 9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. 1 Timothy 2:8-15 | NIV

☐ 1. Males should pray with their hands lifted. (2:8) ☐ 2. Males should pray without anger or disputing. (2:8) ☐ 3. Women should dress modestly. (2:9) ☐ 4. Women should not have elaborate hairstyles of wear gold or pearls or expensive clothing. (2:9)

☐ 5. Women should have good deeds. (2:10) ☐ 6. Women should be silent and quiet. (2:11,12) ☐ 7. Women should not teach or have authority. (2:12)

“Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” Genesis 3:16| NIV

“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come. The old has gone, the new is here.” 2 Corinthians 5:17| NIV

“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come. The old has gone, the new is here.” 2 Corinthians 5:17| NIV “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28| NIV

14 Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam, Akbor, Shaphan and Asaiah went to speak to the prophet Huldah, who was the wife of Shallum son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe. She lived in Jerusalem, in the New Quarter. 15 She said to them, “This is what the L ORD, the God of Israel, says: Tell the man who sent you to me, 16 ‘This is what the L ORD says: I am going to bring disaster on this place and its people, according to everything written in the book the king of Judah has read… 2 Kings 22:15-16 |NIV

“Miriam sang to them: ‘Sing to the Lord, for he is highly exalted. Both horse and driver he has hurled into the sea.’” Exodus 15:21| NIV Moses, Aaron & Miriam Leading as team together for Israel (But notice the male bias on who gets a halo!)

“Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.” Romans 16:7| NIV

3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in Christ Jesus. 4 They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them 5 Greet also the church that meets at their house. Romans 16:3-5| NIV

1 I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. 2 I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me. Romans 16:1-2| NIV

“There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28 | NIV

Disreputable Friends 4 week series: August 12 th to September 4 Next Week: Matthew, Tax Collectors, Drinkers & Sinners

INTER PLAY Celebration City-Wide Church Service Next Sunday at 2:30 pm: Keyano Parking Lot Doug is speaking, Lucas is leading worship So invite a few friends!!!