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1 1 IETF 84 Subha Dhesikan, Dan Druta, Cullen Jennings, Paul Jones, James Polk

2 RTCWeb browsers are sending audio / video in RTP The RTP packet has some bits that get set with DSCP Some times we might have explicit information on how to set this, but in other cases, the browsers need a default value to use Just doing what existing RFC say … Consistent with RFC 4594, draft-polk-tsvwg-rfc4594-update, other SDO etc Not trying to change anything other than give clear guidance

3 Does not help everywhere or all the time Does not break things Seen to help for congestion on broadband (DLS, Cable ) uplink Seen to help for congestion on local WIFI wireless Been told it helps on LTE ( see draft-ejzak-avtcore-rtp- subsessions - 3pm today AVTCORE ) Some enterprise networks Unlikely to help on broadband (DSL, Cable) downlink but possible that could change over time if endpoints did this

4 Browser (not the Java Script) sets the media type Java Script provides the relative importance These are used to pick default DSCP | | Low | Medium | High | | Interactive Audio | 46 (EF) | 46 (EF) | 46 (EF) | | Interactive Video | 38 (AF43) | 36 (AF42) | 34 (AF41) | | Data | 8 (CS1) | 0 (BE) | 10 (AF11) |

5 Not enough DSCP per hop behaviors defined for more than 3 Need at least two for existing use cases Some people want three so can do cool measurement based QoS things. Some people want three for other reasons. Some people think is more is better than less. Some people think 2 is enough. Have not heard any argument that 2 would be better than 3.

6 The browser should set the DSCP as described in RFC 4594 (4594update is same for these parts) The input to set the DSCP in the browser is split between the Java Script application and browser media engine. Each contributes to the part they know Implication to W3C API would be that there needed to be a way to for API to indicate relative priorities of media Also want a way for JS to find out markings being used when media is sent

7 When I am chairing WGs, I really hate that every presentation seems to end with CAN WE ADOPT THIS AS WG ITEM As an individual contributor, I really hate when we get 100 people in a room, spend 20 minutes discussing something, then make no decisions and say Take It To The List where absolutely nothing will happen until the next meeting