Options For Senior Cycle 2019/2020 Grennan College Options For Senior Cycle 2019/2020 This session was accompanied by the 3rd Year Choices presentation (briefly). Handouts used: Master Chart of Essential Subjects 1 & 2. CAO Degree list and points CAO Certificate Diploma list and points LCVP criteria. Use cleaner version for 2004 Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Career Decisions Should I do Transition Year (4th Year)? Should I go to 5th Year? If 5th Year, which subjects should I choose? Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Exploring the Options Looking at subjects and what the different Colleges and Institutes of Technology require. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Hurdles to College Entry To get a place on a college course a student must have three components; 1. Matriculation Requirements 2.  Subject Requirements. (if applicable) 3.  Points.   Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

1. Matriculation Requirements The Matriculation Requirement is the minimum academic qualification for entry that a College demands from an applicant. The following table sets out these Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Abbreviations DCU = Dublin City University UL = University of Limerick TCD = Trinity College Dublin NUI = National University of Ireland UCD = University College Dublin UCC = University College Cork NUIG = National University of Ireland Galway NUIM = National University of Ireland Maynooth IT = Institute of Technology Carlow IT WIT (Waterford) LIT (Limerick) CIT (Cork) DIT = Dublin Institute of Technology Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

General Matriculation Requirements NUI (For Arts Courses) UCD UCC NUIG NUIM Grade H5 in 2 Higher Level subjects and Grade H7/O6 in 4 higher or Ordinary level subjects which must include English, Maths & a third European language (For a limited number of courses) University of Limerick English, Maths & Irish OR a third European language Trinity College Dublin Grade H5 in 3 Higher Level subjects and Grade H7/O6 in 3 higher or Ordinary level subjects which must include Dublin City University (DCU) Maths & English OR Irish Institutes of Technology (e.g. WIT/ IT Carlow) Maths & English (some courses) Grade H7/ O6 in 5 Higher or Ordinary Level in 5 subjects (Some courses) Colleges of Further Education (1 Year QQI Courses) 5 subjects at H7/O6 in Higher or Ordinary Level Must Include Maths and English   Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

What if I have an exemption from Irish / third European language ? There are special provisions for students whose dyslexia constitutes a significant learning difficulty. A student who has been granted an exemption from Irish at school on the grounds of dyslexia, having been assessed by a professional psychologist, should complete Section A and Section D of the Exemption Application form and return it to NUI. You should enclose a copy of the Psychologist’s Report together with a copy of the Department of Education and Skills Certificate of Exemption. In these cases NUI will grant an exemption from Irish and also from the Third Language requirement. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College What if I have an exemption from Irish / third European language ? Contd… Sometimes students are diagnosed late as having dyslexia and have not come to the attention of the National Educational Psychological Service. In these cases, NUI will accept certification from a professional psychologist accompanied by a recent (no more than 3 years old) report from the psychologist. Students should complete Section A and Section E of the Exemption Application Form and return it to NUI enclosing a copy of the Psychologist’s Report and the NUI certification form signed by the Psychologist. Copies of these forms are available from http://www.nui.ie/college/entry-requirements.asp Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Matriculation Q:If a student is granted an exemption, does he/she still need six subjects for matriculation? A: Yes every student needs six subjects to matriculate. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Matriculation Q: Is the Leaving Certificate Vocational Programme (LCVP) acceptable as a subject for Matriculation purposes? A: No. While LCVP may be used for points purposes, it does not count as one of the six subjects acceptable for matriculation Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College 2. Subject Requirements Beyond the matriculation/ general entry requirements, particular courses may require grades, at certain levels, in particular subjects. If you are considering going to any of the colleges of the National University of Ireland (UCD, UCC, NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth RCSI) a third language should be among your chosen subjects for Arts courses which require you to have at least a pass in a third language e.g. French   Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Some Examples Trinity: Science (Common entry) you must have a H6 or O4 in Maths and a H4 in 2 science subjects DCU: Engineering (Common entry) you must have a H4 in Maths B.Sc in Multimedia you must have a H4 in English WIT: B.Eng in Mechanical & Manufacturing Engineering you must have a H5 or better in a laboratory subject or a technical subject e.g DCG, Construction Studies NUIM: Media Studies you must have a H4 in English and a pass H6/O6 in French UCC: Medicine/Dentistry Courses –an H4 in Chemistry and a H4 in either Physics or Biology. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College 3. The Points System Higher Points  Points Ordinary Paper  H1 100 H2 88 H3 77 H4 66 H5 56 O1  56 H6 46 O2  46 H7 37 O3  37 H8 O4  28 O5  20 O6  12 O7  0 Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

How the Points System Works · Points are allocated to the six best grades of an applicant. · These grades must be achieved in one sitting of the Leaving Certificate Examination. · Entry to a course which is competitive will be granted to those holding the highest number of points. · The number of points required for any course in any year is not pre-set by any college. Example : B.Sc. (Hons) in Agricultural Science (WIT) = 380 points B.Sc in Physics & Biomedical Science (DCU) = 415 points   Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Example An applicant has the following 7 results in 2016 Subject  Level  Grade  Score  Irish Higher H4 66 English Ordinary O1 56 Maths Higher* H6 46+25=71 French H3 77 Biology Geography O2 46 History Add the best six scores, shown in bold.  Points = 413 *All those who do Higher Maths and pass get an extra 25 points   Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Core Subjects at Leaving Cert Gaeilge English Mathematics Religious Education Physical Education ICT Studies Careers Education Core + 4 Option Subjects Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

12 Leaving Cert Subjects to choose from Art Music Biology Business Chemistry Construction Studies Engineering French Geography History Scientific & Social Home Economics Design & Communication Graphics LCVP (if you qualify) Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College The Core Subjects Irish English Maths All students take these subjects as they are required for very many courses. Please Note! Foundation level Maths & Irish do not count for points or satisfy subject requirements for college courses. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Irish Higher Level Irish is required for: Primary Teaching in Ireland Undergraduate courses and for the Cadets in the Defence Forces All NUI College Courses Note! Nursing in NUI Colleges require Irish Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College English English is required for all NUI Courses and almost ALL Third Level Colleges. Higher Level English is required for courses in Journalism and Media e.g. Media Studies, NUIM Communications, DCU & Tallaght IT Journalism, DCU & DIT Multi Media, DCU English, TCD Clinical Speech, TCD Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Maths Ordinary Level Maths is required for almost ALL Third Level courses including Certificate courses in Institutes of Technology (e.g., IT Carlow & WIT). Higher Level Maths is required for most degrees in; Engineering Maths Finance Actuary Science Medical and Para- Medical courses Maths is not required for courses which do not involve numerate subjects e.g. Art, Law, Languages. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College French A European language is essential for a number of NUI Colleges and RCSI 3rd language or Art is essential for NCAD. It is useful for careers in Hospitality Industry, Travel & Tourism, Secretarial & Business, Teaching. It is essential for B.Ed Degrees , Shannon College of Hotel Management, Cadets in the Defence Forces Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College French However this rule has been relaxed somewhat e.g. French is NOT REQUIRED for courses in (A) Engineering or (B) Nursing or (C) Science in NUI Colleges (D) Business Courses in Maynooth University DCU, UL & IT’s do not require a European Language except where it is studied as a course subject. Trinity College requires Irish OR a third European Language Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Geography While Geography is not essential for any courses, it is useful for careers in Travel & Tourism, Geology, Meteorology, Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Home Economics (Social & Scientific) This subject is useful for Teacher training in Home Economics Also useful for careers in Hospitality Industry, Chef, Nursing, Social Care Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

History (Contemporary Course) Useful for careers in Politics, Journalism, Teaching, Archaeology, Museum Guide, Tourism Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Business Studies This subject is useful for 3rd Level College courses in Business, Economics, Finance & Commerce. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Art National College of Art & Design require a pass in Art or a 3rd Language. Portfolio of Artwork is required most Art Colleges and Courses Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Music Music is useful for careers in music and music teaching Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Science Subjects Biology & Chemistry At least one science subject is required for many courses both in University and IT’s. Biology is essential for careers in Nursing Physiotherapy Dental Hygiene Higher Level Chemistry is essential for most Science Degrees. Human Nutrition, Biomedical Science in DIT Dentistry & Medicine UCC Veterinary Science, UCD Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

The Practical Subjects Construction Studies Technical Graphics Engineering Useful for apprenticeships and careers in building, Trades, Architecture, Town Planning, Civil Engineering, Electronics, Mechanics Also required for B.Tech Ed degree in UL for teaching. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Subject Choice Procedure Students are given an open choice from the following list of 12 subjects. Art Music Biology Business Chemistry Construction studies Engineering French Geography History Scientific & Social Home Economics Design & Communication Graphics Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Subject Choice Procedure Contd.. 2. Students preferences are then analyzed and the school attempts to put together the pool of subjects that will benefit as many students as possible. Not everybody will get their 4 choices!! However, in the last number of years every student has got at least 3 out of 4 of their subject preferences. !!!   Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College The Safe Range · Irish · English · Mathematics · French · A Science subject (Chemistry, or Biology,) · And two other subjects   This is called the “Safe Range” because with this type of choice i.e., which includes a language and a science subject, it leaves all options open when a student comes to choosing a college course in 6th Year. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Subject Pools L.C. (2016 - 2017) Biology 1 / Music / DCG/ French 1 Biology 2/ Engineering / Art /Chemistry Construction/ Business/ French 2 History/ Geography/Home Economics Students choose one subject from each line Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Subject Pools L.C. (2017 - 2018) French/ Business / Art/ Biology Engineering/ Home Economics/ Biology French/ Construction / Chemistry/ Home Economics History/ Geography / Music / DCG Students choose one subject from each line Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College The Process Choice to take Transition Year or Leaving Cert programmes 5th Yr Subjects must be listed in order of preference from 1-4 on VS Ware 11th 13th of March. The facility closes @12 Midnight on 13th March. Final Choice Forms give out on Tuesday 19th March to be returned the following day (Wednesday 20th March) Final Choice Forms to be returned by: Friday 9th March 2019 Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Subject Choice - Final Tips Before you take the plunge….. Seek advice from older students, siblings Subject Textbooks Subject teachers Choose subjects you like and are good at Check college requirements Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Choose a Subject (THE TWO GOLDEN RULES) Because you like it Because you need it (5th Year Options) Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College

Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College Some Final Thoughts……. Remember that the Leaving Certificate requires a great amount of hard work over two years. It is much easier to work hard if you have chosen, in so far as is possible, subjects which you like. The Leaving Certificate also requires a sense of purpose. It is easier to be motivated if you have a clear goal in your sight e.g. to be accepted for a particular course, to get a good job, etc. A good level of education can only improve your chances. To do well in the Leaving Certificate also requires some academic ability. Use what you have to its fullest. These notes are given for your guidance and every effort has been made to see that they are up-to-date and correct at the time of writing. However, as changes may occur, it is your responsibility to check and satisfy yourself that these are the correct requirements for your course choices. ·  Please check relevant college website//prospectus. Guidance and Counselling Dept. Grennan College