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IEEE 802.1AS REV D5.0 Review Comments Month Year doc.: IEEE 802.11-yy/xxxxr0 July 2017 IEEE 802.1AS REV D5.0 Review Comments Date: 2017-07-10 Authors: Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation Jonathan Segev, Intel

Motivation/Background July 2016 doc.: IEEE P802.11-16/0776r8 July 2017 Motivation/Background IEEE 802.1AS REV project includes use of IEEE 802.11-2016 Fine Timing Measurement as an additional 802.11 protocol to generate timestamps that 802.1AS would use for clock synchronization IEEE 802.1AS REV project includes use of IEEE 802.11ak General Links for interfacing 802.11 MAC SAP to IEEE 802.1AC 802.1AS Rev D5.0 WG Ballot is currently open and closes July 13th, 2017. Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

Summary of comments July 2017 Type Count 1 Editorial 4 2 Technical Month Year doc.: IEEE 802.11-yy/xxxxr0 July 2017 Summary of comments Type Count 1 Editorial 4 2 Technical Needs discussion with ARC (REJECT) 8 Needs discussion with 802.1AS Needs discussion with 802.11md amd 802.11az Should the Capabilities bit(s) apply to all ranging protocols? Or should we allow for indications in the Beacon to indicate Initiator/Responder capabilities for each Ranging Protocol independently? What about Ranging Protocols that do not have a distinct Initiator/Responder? Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation Jonathan Segev, Intel

Comments that need discussion with 802.11 ARC July 2017 Comments that need discussion with 802.11 ARC 802.11 MAC interfacing with ISS without support for 802.11ak Figures 7.8 and 8.2 in IEEE 802.1AS D5.0 Open Issues: Should 802.1AS over 802.11 require 802.11ak? If 802.11ak is required how would current implementations of 802.11 and 802.1AS-2011 be addressed? ISS layer sits atop 802.11. Bridging of 802.11 to/from the ISS layer depends on if 802.11 supports 802.11ak or not. Hence these comments are Rejected. Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

Comments that requires discussion in 802.11md and/or 802.11az July 2017 Comments that requires discussion in 802.11md and/or 802.11az What is the “disconnect” between IEEE 802.11-2016 and IEEE 802.1AS REV D5.0? IEEE 802.1AS D5.0 Use FTM with the following parameters ASAP=1 Single Burst (Burst Exponent = 0) FTMs per Burst – infinite number of FTMs (not explicit in D5.0) IEEE 802.11-2016 Fine Timing Measurement Does not have a mechanism to indicate “infinite” for FTMs per Burst Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

Requirements Simple Change July 2017 Requirements Simple Change Must not break existing IEEE 802.11-2016 implementations of Fine Timing Measurement Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

July 2017 Proposed Solution-A Amend 802.1AS REV D5.0 to use multiple burst instead of single burst Each burst has up to 32 FTM frames Issues Still does not allow for “infinite” number of FTM frames to be sent; as the maximum number of bursts is limited to 215 May cause discontinuity in the flow of time information from the top of the network to the leaf This is because all burst excepting the first one needs to be started with a FTM Request frame from the Slave to the Master This discontinuity may not be an issue if the slave transmits the FTM Request to trigger a new burst in a timely manner Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

Recap of Multiburst FTM Session July 2017 Recap of Multiburst FTM Session Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

Fine Timing Measurement Parameters Element Category Public Action Trigger LCI Measurement Request (optional) Location Civic Measurement Request Fine Timing Measurement Parameters (Mandatory) Octets 1 variable 11 Status Indication Value Reserved Number of Bursts Exponent Burst Duration Min Delta FTM Partial TSF Timer Bits 2 5 1 4 8 16 Partial TSF Timer No Preference ASAP Capable ASAP FTMs per Burst Format and Bandwidth Burst Period bits 6

Burst Duration Field 12 forever 13-14 Reserved Initiator: Burst Duration field set to 15 (no preference) and FTMs per Burst set to 0 (no preference) Responder: Burst Duration field set to 12 (forever) and FTMs per Burst set to 0 (infinite) Value Represents 0-1 Reserved 2 250 us 3 500 us 4 1 ms 5 2 ms 6 4 ms 7 8 ,ms 8 16 ms 9 32 ms 10 64 ms 11 128 ms 12-14 15 No Preference 12 forever 13-14 Reserved

July 2017 Proposed Solution-B Amend IEEE 802.11-2016 to allow for a new choice for the number of FTMs per Burst Use one of the reserved values from the possible values for Burst Duration (values 12-14 are reserved in IEEE 802.11-2016) Initiator sets FTMs per burst to 0 (indicating no preference) and sets Burst Exponent to 0 (Single Burst) Responder sets Burst Duration to 12 (indicating “Forever”) and sets Burst Exponent to 0 (Single Burst) Responder sets FTMs per Burst to 0 (currently disallowed in IEEE 802.11-2016) indicating “infinite” FTMs (new behavior) How does one enable both Location Services and 802.1AS between two peers? Only one FTM Session can exist at any one time between two peers. Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

July 2017 Proposed Solution-C Move to multiburst – supports up to 215 bursts. The FTM Session needs to be renegotiated and restarted after that for the next 215 bursts. Set FTMs Per Burst to 1, 2 or 3 Allows for the Slave to go to sleep, move to another channel, etc., between bursts If in the middle of the session, a need to start an FTM Session for non-802.1AS use arises, the current 802.1AS FTM Session can be terminated by sending an FTM frame with the Dialog Token set to 0 and restarted later at a later time with an FTM negotiation See Slide #8 for the message flow No changes needed in 802.11-2016 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

FTM Session for Proposed Solution - D July 2017 FTM Session for Proposed Solution - D Constraints: Min Delta FTM < Burst Duration (this is already addressed in IEEE 802.11-2016) Burst Duration < desired nominal Sync Interval (this is the rate at which IEEE 802.1AS Sync Messages are transmitted) t2_n –t1_n: Master-Slave path delay t4_n – t3_n: Slave to Master path delay Media dependent Slave State Machine will compute the minimum Master-Slave path delay and the minimum Slave-Master path delay and propagate it up to the Media independent Slave State Machine at the end of every FTM session Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

Proposed Solution-D July 2017 See Slide #13 for the message flow No changes needed in 802.11-2016 Use Single Burst ASAP=1 (unchanged from D5.0) FTM Parameters element field values: FTMs Per Burst to 1, 2 or 3; Number of Bursts Exponent set to 0 Choose Min Delta FTM and Burst Duration as needed to allow for FTM Sessions to be started every 125 mulliseconds Allows for the Slave to go to sleep, move to another channel, etc., between bursts; Allows for co-existence of applications using FTM for Time Synchronization (802.1AS) and Location Services The Slave renegotiates a new FTM Session after collecting a set of t1, t2, t3 and t4. The Slave and Master state machines restarts as a result. t1 and t2 are zero when the first FTM frame is received within an FTM Session One could envisage running TM in this mode as well (each pair of TM frame exchange will reset the Master and Slave state machines) Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

July 2017 Proposal-E Move to multiburst – Define a mechanism to indicate “infinite” bursts in the FTM Parameters element (use Reserved bit-7?) Set FTMs Per Burst to 1, 2 or 3 Allows for the Slave to go to sleep, move to another channel, etc., between bursts If in the middle of the session, a need to start an FTM Session for non-802.1AS use arises, the current 802.1AS FTM Session can be terminated by sending an FTM frame with the Dialog Token set to 0 and restarted later at a later time with an FTM negotiation See Slide #8 for the message flow IEEE 802.11-2016 needs to be amended to include a definition for “infinite” bursts Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation

Comments to discuss with 802.1AS July 2017 Comments to discuss with 802.1AS Mandatory and optional support for Timing Measurement and Fine Timing Measurement protocols in Bridges and end-points Timing Measurement should be mandated to ensure interoperability Some sub-sections of 802.1AS REV D5.0 need to be updated to address support for Fine Timing Measurement Determination of asCapable Fallback to Timing Measurement if FTM negotiation fails Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation