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1 EarthquakesMt St. HelensVertical treesCoalLand BridgesPelegpart7
2 EVANGELISMO DE CIENCIA CREACIONISTA Seminario Parte 6b: La Teoria de Hovind Acerca: de la Inundación, la Formación de Glaciares, el Deriva Continental, y la Formación de Cañon y Montaña.Lección 13 de 15.Un Seminario de CreaciónPorDr. Kent Hovind29 Cummings RoadPensacola, FL 32503Correo Electronico:
3 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. Gen. 1:1 En el principio crió Dios los cielos y la tierra.In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. Gen. 1:1Génesis 1:1
4 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776
5 FloodEl DiluvioLast page of seminar notebook, available from CSE $8.50., , Also available laminated $5.
6 The Hovind Theory6. During the last few months of the flood the unstable plates of the fractured earth shifted.The thin spots sank down to become ocean basins.Other places lifted up to make mountains. Therunoff causedhuge erosion canyons.
7 The Earth is almost perfectly smooth for it’s size. The 5 mile Mt The Earth is almost perfectly smooth for it’s size. The 5 mile Mt. Everest on an 8000 mile earth is an insignificant .0625% bump. Cue balls havebigger bumpsthan that.At this distance you can’t even find Mt. Everest or the Rocky Mountains.Scott Foresman Earth Science 1990 p. 272
8 If the oceans were just 10% deeper, the beach would be here!
47 7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson, Mt. St. Helens blew out enough material for everyone on earth to have a ton.It would fill a 10 cubic yard dump truck every second (24 hrs/day) for 600 years.7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson,Mt. St. Helens Creation Info Center, ,
48 The hot mud flow covered blocks of ice that had been blown off the mountain.
51 “River system formed in nine hours. The landslide of May 18 buried the river and highway to Spirit Lake to an average depth of 100’. It also buried most other drainages in the 23 square miles of the Upper Toutle Valley and plugged the valley’s mouth. For twenty-two months water had no established path to the lower waterway.
52 Then, on March 19, 1982, an eruption melted a large snow pack that had accumulated in the crater over the winter. The waters mixed with loose material on the slopes of the mountain creating an enormous mudflow. In nine hours while no eye watched, the mudflow carved an integrated system of drainages over7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson, Mt. St. Helens Creation Info Center,
53 much of the valley and reopened the way to the Pacific Ocean much of the valley and reopened the way to the Pacific Ocean. The drainages included at least three canyons 100’ deep. One was nicknamed “The Little Grand Canyon of the Toutle” because it was a 1/40th scale model of the Grand Canyon.”7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson,Mt. St. Helens Creation Info Center, ,
79 “The Colorado River…has cut through layer upon layer of rock over millions of years…” Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279
80 If a dam were built across Grand Canyon a large lakewould form!
81 River enters 2800 ft.The snow line tells the story. Grand canyon is a breech in a giant dam, the Kaibab uplift.About 270 milescft.1800 ft.
82 Colorado River enters the canyon 2800 foot elevation and runs downhill. The ground slopes up to the top of Grand Canyon at foot elevation.1800 footColorado River
83 Points to consider about Grand Canyon Canyon rim-elevation over feetRiver enters canyon-elevation 2800 ft.River elev feetPoints to consider about Grand CanyonRiver flow1. The top is higher than the bottom.2. The river runs through the bottom.3. The top is higher than where the river enters the canyon by 4000 feet.4. Rivers don’t flow uphill.5. There is no delta.6. That river did not make that canyon.
84 Grand Canyon is a washed out spillway from a huge post flood lake. Notice that when most rivers mergethey do so at angles less than 900
85 Grand canyon is a breech in a giant dam, the Kaibab uplift. The angles which the side canyons enter prove this.River enters 2800 ft.1800 ft.About 270 milesft.
99 Scientists estimate there are 20,000 trees in the bottom of Spirit Lake. Many of them are buried upright and some are already 15 feet deep in sediments.They seem to settle out by species giving the appearance of a complete forest.
100 Picture from Bone of Contention by Silvia Baker p. 12 Some polystrate trees are upside down extending through many layers including layers of coal.Picture from Bone of Contention by Silvia Baker p. 12(available from CSE $3.50)
101 petrified tree running through rock layers (geologic enigmas?) Bob Jones Earth Science p. 306
113 This layer of bark and organic debris will form coal if conditions are right.
114 Excuse me! Doesn’t it take millions of years to form coal?
115 See: Organic Chemistry 6:463-471, 1984 Argonne National Lab has shown that coal can form by heating wood, clay and water at 1500C for 36 weeks.See: Organic Chemistry 6: , 1984Coal can form ina few hours.George R. Hill, “Aspects of Coal Research,” Chemical Technology 1972, p. 296.
116 See Dr. Steve Austin’s video from ICR for more on this. or ICR.ORG
117 Coal is nearly always found in layers. This is why we have strip mines. Reader’s Digest Atlas of the World p. 31
118 (She’s right) If you take a look at the amount of coal …in the world, In a radio debate Dr. Eugenia Scott said, “Dr. Hovind, There are 80 separate layers of coal in the Midwest.(She’s right)If you take alook at theamount ofcoal …in the world,
119 “the entire biomass (plants) of the world today could not possibly be converted to that much fossil fuel.(She’s right again!)There had to have been an enormous amount of time involved in the laying down of the coal seams.” Dr. Eugenia Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education, founded to keep creationism out of schools, in a radio debate with me on (WBT Charlotte, NC)(She’s wrong!)
123 http://www. westga. edu/geology/algs_web/bps_field_trips Dr. Don McDonald, Troy State University, , FAX or Samford Hendon
124 Coal seams can have “lenses” and branching layers indicating rapid formation. Creation 1997
125 Branching coal seams Creation Ex Nihilo June, 1994 p. 24
126 Strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick Strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick! Eagle Butte mine in WY. 10,000 square mile coal reserve in Powder River basin. Earth Magazine May, 1993Silver Burdett & Ginn 1987 p. 231
127 W. V. Mr. Newton Anderson found this bell inside a lump of coal in 1944. He still has the bell. I talked with him on(304)See: Ammunition by Norm Scharbough Communique Conservative Publishers PO Box 215, Brownsburg, IN(317)photo
129 4 1/2 inch high zinc and silver vessel found in solid rock in “600 million year old rock” Dorchester, Mass. in 1851.Readers Digest Mysteries of the Unexplained p. 46also Scientific American June 1851 p
130 On June 11, 1891, The Morrisonville Times reported; “A curious find was brought to light by Mrs. S.W. Culp last Tuesday morning. As she was breaking a lump of coal apart, embedded in a circular shape a small gold chain about 10 inches in length of antique and quaint workmanship...The Hidden History of the Human RaceMichael A. Cremo p.113
131 Carved Stone From Lehigh Coal Mine near Webster, Iowa April 2, 1897 Daily News Omaha, Nebraska
132 Cast Iron pot found in coal in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, OK. Now in Creation Evidence Museum,
133 A Shoe Sole From NevadaOct. 8, 1922 American Weekly section of New York Sunday American by Dr. W. H. Ballou. The stitching pattern was clearly visible including the twist of the thread. The rock was “ million years old”.The Hidden History ofthe Human RaceMichael A. Cremopph
134 Y tornáronse las aguas de sobre la tierra, yendo y volviendo: y decrecieron las aguas al cabo de ciento y cincuenta días.And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.Génesis 8:3
135 Halak-va-shub “Going and returning” “Yendo y Regresando” Génesis 8:2-3
143 Y reposó el arca en el mes séptimo, á dicisiete días del mes, sobre los montes de Armenia. And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.Génesis 8:4
144 (he went in 7 days before) (entró 7 dias antes) El año seiscientos de la vida de Noé, en el mes segundo á diecisiete días del mes, aquel día fueron rotas todas las fuentes del grande abismo, y las cataratas de los cielos fueron abiertas;In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.(he went in 7 days before) (entró 7 dias antes)Génesis 7:11
145 Y sucedió que en el año seiscientos y uno de Noé, en el mes primero, al primero del mes, las aguas se enjugaron de sobre la tierra y quitó Noé la cubierta del arca, y miró, y he aquí que la faz de la tierra estaba enjuta. Y en el mes segundo, á los veintisiete días del mes, se secó la tierra. Y habló Dios á Noé diciendo: Sal del arcaGenesis 8:13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first [month], the first [day] of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. 14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried. 15 And God spake unto Noah, saying, 16 Go forth of the ark,Génesis 8:13-16
146 In the ark “Feb.” 10, 600Rain starts Feb. 17, 600Ark hits bottom (5 months later) July, 600Take off cover Jan. 1, 601God says “go forth” Feb. 27, 601Total time in ark= year 17 daysWhy stay in for 7 more months?1. Water not all gone yet-still going and returning.2. Ground still muddy.3. Nothing to eat at first.4. Nothing to build homes with
147 Y las aguas fueron decreciendo hasta el mes décimo: en el décimo, al primero del mes, se descubrieron las cimas de los montes.And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.Génesis 8:5
148 The Hovind Theory7. Over the next few hundred years the ice caps generally retreated, the added water formed the continental shelf, as the cold water absorbed CO2 life spans shortened in the days of Peleg.
149 Lower water levels meant all the continents were connected for the first few hundred years after the flood. Populations spread out across the globe and became “trapped” on their continents by the rising water.
150 A great book about the populations spreading out after the flood.
151 Edge of land bridge with lower water levels. People came to America from both sides.
154 Y á Heber nacieron dos hijos: el nombre de uno fué Peleg, porque en sus días fué repartida la tierra; y el nombre de su hermano, Joctán.And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.Génesis 10:25
157 There are several theories about what was “divided” in the days of Peleg. 1. The languages and nations were divided at the tower of Babel.2. The continents moved and split.3. The water came up (from ice melt) and divided the high spots into islands and continents.4. The land was surveyed to avoid disputes due to population increase.
159 The melting ice made the oceans deeper, wider (causing the continental shelf) and colder. Prentice Hall Earth Science 1989, p.271
160 Post flood beachAverage less than 150 feet deep
161 As the oceans filled in from the melting ice the Mediterranean would be “back filled”.
162 Ancient Egyptian cities discovered under 30 feet of water in Mediterranean Sea. Sea level was lower at some time in the past. Cities have been discovered under water in Cabo de San Antonio, Cuba and Mahabalipuram, India+Bimini Road, Bahamas (news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0528/sunkencities)
163 As the oceans filled in from the melting ice the Mediterranean and Black Seas would be “back filled”.
164 Summer of 2000 Ancient cities discovered under 150 feet of water in the Black Sea. Sea level was lower at some time in the past.
174 For more details on the flood and the hydro-plate theory we recommend this very thoroughly documented book.CSE $23.50
175 Fossils should remind us of God’s hatred for sin.
176 Y de la manera que está establecido a los hombres que mueran una vez; y después de esto el juicio: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:Hebreos 9:27
177 Shortly before the eruption of Mt. St Shortly before the eruption of Mt. St. Helens, Tim Berends of KJSL radio inSt. Louis witnessed to Harry Truman.Tim told me Harrywas a “very profane man… He listenedbut rejected what I had to say…”
178 Harry Truman was warned that Mt. St. Helens was about to erupt Harry Truman was warned that Mt. St. Helens was about to erupt. He refused to heed the warning. As far as we know, Harry is in Hell today.
179 El que tiene al Hijo, tiene la vida; el que no tiene al Hijo de Dios, no tiene la vida. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.1 Juan 5:12
180 El Señor no tarda su promesa, como algunos la tienen por tardanza; empero es paciente para con nosotros, no queriendo que ninguno perezca, sino que todos vengan al arrepentimiento.The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.2 Pedro 3:9
181 Mas como los días de Noé, así será la venida del Hijo del hombre. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Mateo 24:37
182 Porque como en los días antes del diluvio estaban comiendo y bebiendo, casándose y dando en casamiento, hasta el día en que Noé entró en la arca,For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,Mateo 24:38
183 Y no conocieron hasta que vino el diluvio y los llevó a todos, así será también la venida del Hijo del hombre.And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Mateo 24:39
184 Porque es menester que todos nosotros comparezcamos delante del tribunal de Cristo; para que cada uno reciba las cosas hechas en su cuerpo, según lo que hubiere hecho, sea bueno, o sea malo. Sabiendo pues el terror del Señor, persuadimos a los hombres,For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;2 Corintios 5:10-11
185 Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Ciertamente vengo prestamente. Amén. Sea así. Ven, Señor Jesús.Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.Revelación o Ap. 22:20
186 Excuse me! Could somebody show me how to be saved? ¡Perdón! Alguien puede enseñarme como ser salvo?
187 He that winneth souls is wise. El que prende [gana] almas, es sabio.He that winneth souls is wise.Proverbios 11:30