1. Bill Anderson Purdue University 23 March 2011 Perspectives on Launch Propulsion System Roadmap

2. General Comments Roadmap is comprehensive and appears to represent the interests of most stakeholders US leadership in space is not mentioned in the draft Apparent need for variety of launch systems provides opportunity for international cooperation Impact of space assembly and operations, human-rated systems Systems and technologies need to be optimized and down- selected - may have economic and political consequences Continued support of selected mature systems and more sustained investment in future technologies is sensible Maintaining skilled workforce and inspiring and developing new scientists and engineers should be primary Reliability and Affordability aspects should be done by commercial sector with NASA oversight

3. Propulsion System Developments Solid and liquid systems are proposed Liquid HC, methane, hydrogen engines are proposed – why not develop international partnerships for expander cycle and methane engines? Large lifter appears to be unique to NASA’s needs - Is it necessary? Green propellants, high-energy density hydrocarbons, densified cryos have limited payback Serving broad range of interests can compromise main mission

4. Liquid Rocket Propulsion System Technology Investments

6. 8 Engines – Boosters and Upper Stages Hydrogen, RP, and Methane-Fueled

7. Liquid Rocket Propulsion System Technology Investments Aare What needs to be done? Manufacturing & Materials represent 19/26 of the “Major Challenges”

8. Liquid Rocket Propulsion System Technology Investments Answer is to test, test, test

9. Research Needs for Rocket Engines – Survey Questions What cycles should we be working on Technology areas needing fundamental results What are the research needs Objectives of the fundamental studies Any Relative Comments 2010 JPC Panel on Liquid Propulsion

10. Broad Research Areas Mission Dependent Optimization of Engine Cycles System Level Models –Engines and test facilities –Efficient use of variable-fidelity tools Materials, Fabrication, and Joining Processes –Productive source of incremental improvements –Coatings and material systems –Thermo-mechanical strain-resistant materials Life Prediction and Measurement –Local, time-dependent environments –Strain-life models Turbomachinery –Cavitation, engine transients, and off-design margins Thrust Chambers and Propellants

11. Survey Results Cycles –Heavy-lift HC-fueled engines, LOX-methane, combined cycle Research Objectives –Fundamental experiments & detailed modeling of combustion instability, throttling, ignition, & transients –Benchmarking: high-fidelity simulations and high-fidelity measurements/experiments with well-known BC’s –Management and analysis of huge data sets –Properties and processes of mixtures at supercritical conditions –Life, reliability, and cost –Atomization modeling –Careful scale-up to multiple-element environments –Development and validation of robust CFD codes for design –Thermal degradation of HC fuels –Higher-energy, less-toxic mono/bipropellants –Material treatments

12. Additional Comments Sustained basic research program that supports long-term goals is critical Many phenomena are specific to the type of injector, cycle, and propellants that are used Application of high-fidelity simulations to rocket combustors is years away Educational opportunities need to be increased, esp for flight experiences Number of PhD’s entering industry and government should increase

13. Closing Comments Roadmap needs to be better focused

14. Closing Comments Roadmap needs to be focused Objective and rigorous study on launch needs is necessary to define optimized launch architecture and select launch propulsion systems

15. Closing Comments Roadmap needs to be focused Objective and rigorous study on launch needs is necessary to define optimized launch architecture and select launch propulsion systems Development and implementation of heritage launch systems should be left to industry, NASA should continue to support foundational engineering for these systems

16. Closing Comments Roadmap needs to be focused Objective and rigorous study on launch needs is necessary to define optimized launch architecture and select launch propulsion systems Development and implementation of heritage launch systems should be left to industry, NASA should continue to support foundational engineering for these systems Development of new systems (60K expander cycle, methane engine, heavy lifter) should be conducted with international partners

17. Closing Comments Roadmap needs to be focused Objective and rigorous study on launch needs is necessary to define optimized launch architecture and select launch propulsion systems Development and implementation of heritage launch systems should be left to industry, NASA should continue to support foundational engineering for these systems Development of new systems (60K expander cycle, methane engine, heavy lifter) should be conducted with international partners Launch manifest does not support development of highly reusable system, or investment in propellant technologies

18. Closing Comments Roadmap needs to be focused Objective and rigorous study on launch needs is necessary to define optimized launch architecture and select launch propulsion systems Development and implementation of heritage launch systems should be left to industry, NASA should continue to support foundational engineering for these systems Development of new systems (60K expander cycle, methane engine, heavy lifter) should be conducted with international partners Launch manifest does not support development of highly reusable system, or investment in propellant technologies Strong and visible focus on advanced systems is necessary – combined cycle, ground- and air-launched – but they need to be down-selected also

19. Number of Graduate Students Majoring in Propulsion in the School of Aeronautics and Astronautics 2007 2008 2009 2010

20. Graduate Student Placement MLPW Florida TPAcademia JSAurora Flight Sciences NP??? NNAcademia MDSpaceX YYBlue Origin TMPW Rocketdyne KMSpaceX EBAerospace Corp CJBlue Origin JWPW Rocketdyne PHRedstone RSBlue Origin KLSpaceX LDVentions DHBlue Origin LOWoods Hole SRBlue Origin