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1 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct: International and Home Students in the Creative Arts Silvia Sovic Using Formal and Informal Curricula to Improve Interactions between Home and International Students Oxford Brookes University, 20 June 2008

2 Key Features Students interviewed in their own language

3 Key Features Students interviewed in their own language 14 interviewers from 6 countries (postgraduates in social sciences, from University of London)

4 Key Features Students interviewed in their own language 14 interviewers from 6 countries (postgraduates in social sciences, from University of London) Written questionnaire + semi structured interviews

5 1 st Year Students from Hong Kong India Japan South Korea Taiwan USA

6 1 st Year Students from No. interviewed Hong Kong26 India20 Japan34 South Korea22 Taiwan24 USA15 Total141

7 1 st Year Students from No. interviewed No. of 1 st years% Hong Kong267236% India206133% Japan % South Korea % Taiwan246338% USA154931% Total %

8 Benchmark 21 home students Total interviews = 162

9 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES

10 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES EXPECTATIONS

11 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES EXPECTATIONS …I wanted to study at a place where it wasnt all Koreans. If its all Koreans, then I feel like the point of studying abroad is lost. But here at UAL, there are variety of people from different backgrounds, and thats why I like it here. South Korean student

12 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES EXPECTATIONS I had a really high expectation about what my life may look like here. I dreamed of having good interpersonal relationship with people here, and there is a happy family welcoming me to join. Taiwanese student

13 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES EXPECTATIONS When I was in Taiwan, I expected that I may have many chances to make many friends from diverse cultural backgrounds. However, when I am physically attending a BA course here, I seem to find it a bit different and difficult for me to mix up with other students here. UK students are generally nice, but rather distant to me. Taiwanese student

14 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES LANGUAGE

15 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES LANGUAGE And if you dont know the exact words to use, you are not communicating properly with the person opposite to you. And it makes a big difference, if your control over the language is much better you are more confident and the confidence comes across. And you interact a lot with more people. If you are lacking confidence with your language then even in the crowd of three of four, you will be the quietest one. It has been a problem in the past. Indian student

16 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES LANGUAGE I havent got enough time to improve my English since I started my course. I thought that I would study my course, and in the meantime I would also improve my English. However, I havent even got enough time for my projects, how would it be possible for me to study and to improve my English as well? Taiwanese student

17 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES LANGUAGE I havent got enough time to improve my English since I started my course. I thought that I would study my course, and in the meantime I would also improve my English. However, I havent even got enough time for my projects, how would it be possible for me to study and to improve my English as well? Taiwanese student Even though my IELTS score is 8, it means nothing because in practice I need to face different kinds of people with different accents. Its totally another thing. Hong Kong student

18 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES LANGUAGE I am slightly concerned about my English. I havent got many chances to practice, neither my writing nor speaking. In terms of speaking, as said earlier, I dont pick up chances to make communication with UK students. Taiwanese student

19 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES AGE

20 Age Profile of First-Year International Students Interviewed

21 The students are generally very young. I am 24. I feel like an idiot in front of younger people. Well…I don't know what they think about me. South Korean student

22 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS

23 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS I only meet them at school, but I feel that UK students are always with UK students only. Japanese student In my class, many classmates are British students and this circumstance itself is no problem to study, but many of them are so young like 18 or 19 year old and they seem to want to talk only among them. Japanese student

24 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS There is a big difference between English students and international students. English students stick together and international students are loners…For international students college is their social life. For the English students they already are in their home, near their families with their own school friends. We are away from our homes, families and school friends… Indian student

25 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS British students have already made a group of friends because they have known already someone. It is difficult to join such a group but I need to have strong confidence to do this and I have to make myself to try to join that group. Thats the difficulty to make friends with British students. Japanese student

26 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS Ive tried to get on with them, like Im not even being pushy, not like, Hi, whats your name? I want to be your friend!. But Ill just be like Hi!, you know just getting acquainted, and they just want to have nothing to do with you unless youre British… American student

27 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES

28 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SHYNESS

29 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SHYNESS I met a really shy Japanese guy. Im pretty outgoing and I like talking to people, but he was just afraid of talking in English. He pretended to listen to iPod so that people wont talk to him, and he doesnt have to talk to them. Japanese student

30 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SHYNESS International students from Asia are generally very shy when they first come to this country. We really need the college or our teachers to facilitate engagements between and among students. Alternatively, they can help to initiate interaction among students, which is very important to international students. I am a very shy person and often go with Japanese, South Korean and Hong Kongese. Taiwanese student

31 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SHYNESS They are shy, timid, or so proud. I think most British students have one of these three characters. They are also very young, so there are many UK students, who are reckless. They dont care for international students. For example, they don't say again or speak slowly, when someone does not catch their speaking. So, I hesitate to say something to them. South Korean student

32 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES LANGUAGE

33 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES LANGUAGE They are very nice people, very easy-going. But then, you have to have a very good hang of English. If you cant have a conversation with them fluently, they cant be bothered to be friends with you. They will be nice to you, exchange pleasantries, but they will not bother at all to get to know you better. Indian student

34 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES LANGUAGE I think it is extremely difficult to me. As the same age students, UK students are usually only willing to talk to those speaking fluent English. If I talk to them actively, I dont get a lot of response. Therefore I feel upset. Taiwanese student

35 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES COMPETITION

36 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES COMPETITION The relationship between classmates is bad. Some classmates are not interested in making friends with me. They just want to see my works. We have competition among ourselves… Hong Kong student

37 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES BACKGROUND

38 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES BACKGROUND The fact that I dont have any British friends. Well, not zero but really few…we Japanese are years old, and British students are I dont exactly know why I dont have friends. I believe, because they are younger than me. I hesitate to approach them…their speech is really really fast. I can understand what our tutors say though...I cannot understand my classmates English at all…so I am afraid, I may stop speaking during conversation…I cannot continue saying words. Japanese student

39 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SEGREGATION

40 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SEGREGATION And the thing is that there are so many Asian people in our college… What happens is, I feel that they become lazy like, if you are with Indian people, we'll talk in Hindi, its only natural, you know, and so they also obviously only talk in Chinese or Korean or whatever it is. So they become too lazy to learn more. …When you have a group… mix everyone together. Indian student

41 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES SEGREGATION If there are too many international students, we will form groups according to our countries. We cant communicate with others. Its rare for me to speak English. Hong Kong student

42 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS

43 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS CLASSROOM

44 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS CLASSROOM Its fine with saying hi and bye during class. But we dont hang out after class. Perhaps sometimes its because of their personality. Sometimes we dont communicate well because of language barrier. Hong Kong student

45 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS CLASSROOM We all made efforts to try to understand each other at the beginning of this course. However, there was something that didnt work out well for us. Gradually, we would just greet each other with hi, and there is nothing more than hi in our conversation. It seems to me that they are not really interested in what we are doing. Taiwanese student

46 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS CLASSROOM There might be a generation gap. Inside the school, British classmates willingly talk to me, but if we leave our classroom, even one step, they stop talking to me and seem to enjoy chatting with other British. I hear that in another class, in which there are some mature British students, Japanese often have lunch with them. So I think this might be a matter of generation. I have friends who are mainly from Japan or other Asia. Japanese student

47 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS CLASSROOM I dont have many British friends here. I find it easier to make friends with these British born African students. They seem to me are much easy-going…Some of these white students would greet me when we meet on the corridor. But, some just ignore you. Taiwanese student

48 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct GENERAL ISSUES PERCEPTIONS OF UK STUDENTS OBSTACLES INSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS CLASSROOM Firstly, it is English. Secondly, UK students dont understand why Asian students spend so much time on thinking. And the ways that these two groups of students work are so different. Sometimes, some Asian students try to explain what they think. These UK students just are unwilling to listen. Third, these UK students believe that they are entitled to dominate and to lead where our discussion should go, simply they are westerners. Taiwanese student

49 Hi-Bye Friends and the Herd Instinct My favorite thing about the school is actually how diverse it is. I came from UCLA where everyone was from within six hours of each other and everybody kind of had the same background and here just meeting people whove been to school in different places, who have families in different places, who speak four or five languages sometimes. I really find that really impressive. Its cool to like get a different point of view and even when its been difficult adjusting to that its been a good thing overall. American student

50 The Experience of First-Year International Students For further information about the project: or contact Dr Silvia Sovic, Research Project Coordinator, Creative Learning in Practice Centre for Excellence in Teaching and Learning, (CLIP CETL), University of the Arts, London


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