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1 GIN Testbed Status 5/11/2006 Peter Arzberger, Cindy Zheng

2 Grids and People EGEE EGEE Erwin Laure, Olivier van der Aa, Mona Aggarwal, Oscar Koeroo, etc.Erwin Laure, Olivier van der Aa, Mona Aggarwal, Oscar Koeroo, etc. PRAGMA PRAGMA Peter Arzberger, Phil Papadoupolos, Mason Katz, Cindy Zheng, Yoshio Tanaka, Yusuke Tanimura, Somsak Sriprayoonsakul, Putchong Uthayopas etc.Peter Arzberger, Phil Papadoupolos, Mason Katz, Cindy Zheng, Yoshio Tanaka, Yusuke Tanimura, Somsak Sriprayoonsakul, Putchong Uthayopas etc. TeraGrid TeraGrid Charlie Catlett, Dane Skow, JP Navarro, Laura Pearlman etc.Charlie Catlett, Dane Skow, JP Navarro, Laura Pearlman etc.

3 First Application and Middleware Test TDDFT/Ninf-G TDDFT/Ninf-G Lead: Yoshio Tanaka, Yusuke Tanimura (AIST)Lead: Yoshio Tanaka, Yusuke Tanimura (AIST) Deployed and runDeployed and run PRAGMA - AIST, NCSA, SDSC PRAGMA - AIST, NCSA, SDSC TeraGrid – ANL TeraGrid – ANL Working on deployment to EGEE – LCGWorking on deployment to EGEE – LCG Middleware interoperability problem Middleware interoperability problem Assumptions by middleware about local architecture are the main cause – bad ideaAssumptions by middleware about local architecture are the main cause – bad idea head node, home directory, etc. head node, home directory, etc. New version of Ninf-G should resolve current problem New version of Ninf-G should resolve current problem Release todayRelease today Resume deployment and testing after GGF17Resume deployment and testing after GGF17

4 Lessons Learned, Issues and Work (1) Progress Progress Committed individualsCommitted individuals Authentication Authentication People involved so farPeople involved so far gin-auth, gin-ops, Globus people gin-auth, gin-ops, Globus people User obtain initial accessUser obtain initial access Process documented by Cindy Zheng, goc.rocksclusters.org/gin/gin-egee.htm Process documented by Cindy Zheng, goc.rocksclusters.org/gin/gin-egee.htmhttp://pragma- goc.rocksclusters.org/gin/gin-egee.htmhttp://pragma- goc.rocksclusters.org/gin/gin-egee.htm Not easy, not simple Not easy, not simple Need documentation to guide users Need documentation to guide users Need to simply the process. How? Can this be tied to any other GIN working groups effort? Need to simply the process. How? Can this be tied to any other GIN working groups effort? DN incompatibilityDN incompatibility Summarized by Oscar Koeroo, grid.net/gin/Cert-probs-GIN.pdf Summarized by Oscar Koeroo, grid.net/gin/Cert-probs-GIN.pdfhttp://goc.pragma- grid.net/gin/Cert-probs-GIN.pdfhttp://goc.pragma- grid.net/gin/Cert-probs-GIN.pdf Commented by Charles Bacon (Globus), grid.net/gin/DN_Charles-Bacon.htm Commented by Charles Bacon (Globus), grid.net/gin/DN_Charles-Bacon.htmhttp://goc.pragma- grid.net/gin/DN_Charles-Bacon.htmhttp://goc.pragma- grid.net/gin/DN_Charles-Bacon.htm Need both standard and flexibility Need both standard and flexibility Voms server is modified to handle both styles of DN strings Voms server is modified to handle both styles of DN strings

5 Lessons Learned, Issues and Work (2) Software stack and Community Software Area (CSA) Software stack and Community Software Area (CSA) People involved so farPeople involved so far JP Navarro, Yoshio Tanaka, Yusuke Tanimura, Mason Katz, etc. JP Navarro, Yoshio Tanaka, Yusuke Tanimura, Mason Katz, etc. Software stack is different among grids. Problems with conflicting requirements.Software stack is different among grids. Problems with conflicting requirements. CSA as a solution for users to deploy their sub- stack and share installed software CSA as a solution for users to deploy their sub- stack and share installed software JP Navarro will summarize the discussionsJP Navarro will summarize the discussions Near term - work on CSA within each gridNear term - work on CSA within each grid Need focused discussion on solution for GINNeed focused discussion on solution for GIN Any other GIN working groups are working on related issues?Any other GIN working groups are working on related issues?

6 Lessons Learned, Issues and Work (3) Cross-grid monitoring Cross-grid monitoring Need to view/monitor jobs/resources in GIN environmentNeed to view/monitor jobs/resources in GIN environment People involved so far:People involved so far: Somsak Sriprayoonsakul, JP Navarro, Laura Pearlman, Oxana Smirnova, Ben Evans, etc. Somsak Sriprayoonsakul, JP Navarro, Laura Pearlman, Oxana Smirnova, Ben Evans, etc. Summary by Somsak Sriprayoonsakul, by Somsak Sriprayoonsakul, Get some monitoring software together, develop a common schema Get some monitoring software together, develop a common schema Wiki - grid.net/index.php?title=GIN_%28Grid_Inter- operation_Now%29_MonitoringWiki - grid.net/index.php?title=GIN_%28Grid_Inter- operation_Now%29_Monitoringhttp://wiki.pragma- grid.net/index.php?title=GIN_%28Grid_Inter- operation_Now%29_Monitoringhttp://wiki.pragma- grid.net/index.php?title=GIN_%28Grid_Inter- operation_Now%29_Monitoring Multiple ideas and works should be fineMultiple ideas and works should be fine Needs more communication with gin-info. (Other groups?) How to do that.Needs more communication with gin-info. (Other groups?) How to do that.

7 Questions How do we communicate our lessons learned to GIN community and beyond? How do we communicate our lessons learned to GIN community and beyond? How do we get enough human resources for work? How do we get enough human resources for work? Do we expand the activity? If so: Do we expand the activity? If so: Do we grow the number of grids in participating in the testbed?Do we grow the number of grids in participating in the testbed? Do we start a second application?Do we start a second application? Possible candidate: Savanah Study (Climate simulation; greater data needs) Possible candidate: Savanah Study (Climate simulation; greater data needs) Middleware – Nimrod/GMiddleware – Nimrod/G David Abramson, Colin Enticott, Monash University, AustraliaDavid Abramson, Colin Enticott, Monash University, Australia Requirements: user account, GT2,3,4, 75GB user disk spaceRequirements: user account, GT2,3,4, 75GB user disk space Do we focus next on a simplest application that runs easily on most machines (e.g. Hello World)Do we focus next on a simplest application that runs easily on most machines (e.g. Hello World) To systematically document process To systematically document process To involve more grids To involve more grids

8 Proposed Next Steps More communications between groups More communications between groups Group leads on all groups mailing lists?Group leads on all groups mailing lists? Combined list to post info/status from all groups?Combined list to post info/status from all groups? Complete TDDFT / Ninf-G interoperation between PRAGMA, TeraGrid, EGEE Complete TDDFT / Ninf-G interoperation between PRAGMA, TeraGrid, EGEE Community Software Area Community Software Area Work on within each gridWork on within each grid Need to discuss/work on what to do for GIN.Need to discuss/work on what to do for GIN. Cross-grid monitoring Cross-grid monitoring Support grass-root effortSupport grass-root effort Encourage exchange ideas/info with other groupsEncourage exchange ideas/info with other groups New application/middleware testcase New application/middleware testcase Hello World?Hello World? Something already on EGEE, TeraGrid..?Something already on EGEE, TeraGrid..? Nimrod/Savanah?Nimrod/Savanah? More grids? More grids? Recommendation of an immediate GIN activity… Recommendation of an immediate GIN activity… Need committed peopleNeed committed people

9 Enjoy Kabuki at Kabuki-ZA Feast at Ginza Drink GIN


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