1. ASAS TN page1 Introduction IFALPA International Federation or Air Line Pilots Associations founded in 1948 from 13 associations 94 member associations more than 100.000 pilot members located in Chertsey, UK recognized at ICAO level THE GLOBAL VOICE OF PILOTS

2. ASAS TN page2 The mission of IFALPA is to be the global voice of airline pilots, promoting the highest level of safety world wide and providing services, support and representation to all of ist member associations

3. ASAS TN page3 Accident Analysis CommitteeAAC Aircraft Design and OperationADO Airport Ground and EnvironmentAGE Air Traffic ServicesATS Dangerous GoodsDG HelicoptersHEL Human PerformanceHUPER IndustrialIND LegalLEG SecuritySEC Subscr./Constitution/Membersh./Ins.SCAMPI 11 Working Committees

4. ASAS TN page4 ECA European Cockpit Association founded in 1991 19 member associations 31.827 flight deck crew 18 nationalities (EU and EEA) over 80 companies Chairman: T. Iversen, Norway Vice Chairman: Carlos Salas, Spain

5. ASAS TN page5 Austrian Cockpit Association Sindicato Espanol de Pilotos de Lineas Aereas Vereniging van nederlandse Verkehrsvliegers Irish Air Line Pilots Association Britisch Air Line Pilots Association Association Luxembourgoise de Pilotes de Ligne Luxemburg Belgian Cockpit Association Hellenic Air Line Pilots Association Sindicato dos Pilotos da Aviacao Civil Portugal Norsk Flyfeerbund Norway Vereinigung Cockpit, Germany Suomen Liikkeennelenttäjälii, Finland Syndicat national de Pilotos de Ligne, France Associazione Nazional Pilotos Aviazione Commerciale, Italy Premiar Cockpit Union, Denmark Vereinigung des Cockpitpersonals der Swissair Cimber Air Besaetningsforening, Denmark Maersk Air Pilots Association, Denmark Flywebranchens Personal Union, Denmark Svensk Pilotförening ECA - European Cockpit Association

6. ASAS TN page6 Introducing ECA ECA is first and foremost concerned with aviation safety The ECA ATM working group works in close coordination with the IFALPA ATS committee

7. ASAS TN page7 Ancient means of separation assurance the human eye Compass - fly heading Altimeter - maintain altitude Stopwatch -used for time based separation ADF Bearing- Track Separation VOR Radial- Track Separation and more modern FMS Navigation RNP Navigation RVSM

8. ASAS TN page8 NO means of separation assurance TCASlast resort in case of loss of separation TIBAmainly used over AFI EGPWS„loss of precise lateral navigation“

9. ASAS TN page9 Quote from IFALPA Annex 2, Attachment C The basic purpose of air traffic rules and air traffic control is to prevent collisions with the least restriction on aircraft movements whilst providing safe, orderly and efficient use of navigable airspace. Adequate ATC systems should provide the basic service of separation between aircraft IFALPA Manuals refer to ICAO manuals

10. ASAS TN page10 Quote from IFALPA Annex 2, Attachment C States should strive to establish an adequate ATC system as defined by ICAO standards and recommended practices. This ATC system is ground based and controller centered. Where such a system is not yet implemented, states should endevour to create one. The near term investment in ATC systems should be in efforts to continously improve this ground based, controller centered service. DRAFT POLICY 2001

11. ASAS TN page11 Air traffic separation based solely on cockpit displays of traffic information may not constitute a safe mode of operation. The pilot community should not support the transfer of separation responsibility to pilots in any but the most regulated conditions. Quote from IFALPA Annex 2, Attachment C

12. ASAS TN page12 The possibility of pilot-induced mid-air collisions under an airborne-based separation scheme may represent an increased risk that has not been recognised by the developers of airborne separation procedures. For a multitude of human factors and technical reasons, the federation does not recognise the ability of flight crew to perform airborne based separatin on a safe and orderly basis. DRAFT POLICY 2001 Quote from IFALPA Annex 2, Attachment C

13. ASAS TN page13 Therefore, the federation believes that separation responsibility should remain with the controller on the ground and does not support the transfer of responsibility for separation to flight crew outside the scope of current air traffic rules DRAFT POLICY 2001 End quote from IFALPA Annex 2, Attachment C Quote from IFALPA Annex 2, Attachment C

14. ASAS TN page14 Question marks ??????????????????????????? CertificationICAO, states, manufacturer Equipmentlevel of redundancy, HMI, MEL Proceduresseparation minima applicable any form of hierarchie Areas of applicationinterface topics, FIR/UIR vs. Sector Trainingflight crew, atc, dispatch

15. ASAS TN page15 Question marks ??????????????????????????? recurrent checking Mutual understanding between controllers and pilots government oversightcontrol, sanctions

16. ASAS TN page16 Conclusion IFALPA & ECA are prepared to contribute valuable input to Eurocontrol ASAS activities

17. ASAS TN page17 The high level of safety achieved in airline operations lately should not obscure the fact that most of the accidents that occured could have been prevented. This suggests that in many instances the safety measures already in place must have been inadequate, circumvented or ignored. Aviation itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect Insisting on perfect safety is for peolpe who don´t have the balls to live in the real world

18. ASAS TN page18 Thank You for Your attention