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1 De Broglie Waves, Uncertainty, and Atoms
Physics 1161: Pre-Lecture 29 De Broglie Waves, Uncertainty, and Atoms Sections 30.1 – 30.7 1

2 Compton Scattering This experiment really shows photon momentum!
Pincoming photon + 0 = Poutgoing photon + Pelectron Electron at rest Outgoing photon has momentum p and wavelength  Incoming photon has momentum, p, and wavelength l Recoil electron carries some momentum and KE Energy of a photon

3 De Broglie Waves So far only for photons have wavelength, but De Broglie postulated that it holds for any object with momentum- an electron, a nucleus, an atom, a baseball,…... Explains why we can see interference and diffraction for material particles like electrons!!

4 Comparison: Wavelength of Photon vs. Electron
Say you have a photon and an electron, both with 1 eV of energy. Find the de Broglie wavelength of each. Equations are different - be careful! Photon with 1 eV energy: Big difference! Electron with 1 eV kinetic energy: Solve for

5 Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle
Rough idea: if we know momentum very precisely, we lose knowledge of location, and vice versa. If we know the momentum p, then we know the wavelength , and that means we’re not sure where along the wave the particle is actually located! l y

6 Heisenberg Test Dpy = p sinq Dy = w = l/sinq Use de Broglie l
screen Number of electrons arriving at screen w Dpy = p sinq p q p q electron beam Dy = w = l/sinq y x Use de Broglie l

7 The “Uncertainty in py” is Dpy h/w.
Electron diffraction electron beam screen Number of electrons arriving at screen w x y py Electron entered slit with momentum along x direction and no momentum in the y direction. When it is diffracted it acquires a py which can be as big as h/w. The “Uncertainty in py” is Dpy h/w. An electron passed through the slit somewhere along the y direction. The “Uncertainty in y” is Dy  w.

8 electron beam screen Number of electrons arriving at screen w x y py If we make the slit narrower (decrease w=Dy) the diffraction peak gets broader (Dpy increases). “If we know location very precisely, we lose knowledge of momentum, and vice versa.” Remember earlier we saw that a particle whose momentum (and therefore wavelength) is known precisely is very uncertain in position.

9 Rutherford Scattering
Scattering He++ atoms off of gold. Mostly go through, some scattered back! (Alpha particles = He++) Only something really small (i.e. nucleus) could scatter the particles back! Atom is mostly empty space with a small (r = m) positively charged nucleus surrounded by cloud of electrons (r = m)

10 Nuclear Atom (Rutherford)
Large angle scatterings nuclear atom Classic nuclear atom is not stable! Electrons will radiate and spiral into nucleus Need quantum theory

11 Recap Photons carry momentum p=h/l Everything has wavelength l=h/p
Uncertainty Principle DpDx > h/(2p) Atom Positive nucleus m Electrons “orbit” m Classical E+M doesn’t give stable orbit Need Quantum Mechanics!


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