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1 ACTAR WORKSHOP BORDEAUX
Emanuel Pollacco

2 From: Particle Physics To: Nuclear Physics
Big is beautiful To: Nuclear Physics Small is mignon David Robert Nygren Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory First TPC 1978 PEP-4 detector, e+e- at SLAC. Emanuel Pollacco

3 ACTAR Workshop A workshop to provide the international NUCLEAR PHYSICS community with an electronic instrumentation for Time Projection Chambers. General Electronics for TPC: GET Possible extension to other instrumentation. A workshop for Engineers & Physicists organized by Engineers. Emanuel Pollacco Emanuel Pollacco

4 Multi-Project & Multi-Laboratory
ACTAR Darsebury, GANIL, Santiago, Saclay, CENBG… CENBG Saclay R3B collaboration MSU RIKEN Project General Electronics for TPC (GET) Covers Front End Electronics to DAQ Most Projects Lab1 Lab2 Lab3 Lab4 Project GET Projects Lab1 Lab2 Lab3 Lab4 ACTAR MSU-TPC R3B Emanuel Pollacco CENBG-TPC

5 What should YOU be doing at Bordeaux?
Organization Organigram Partitioning of Tasks Who will construct (S&H) what? Milestones Budget Who will pay for what? Who is going to ask for what? ANR, … Adopt Budget Model Conceptual Phase Drawing Specifications Conceptual Design Building Pro-type Testing Pro-type Construction Phase Building of units Testing of units “ Nuclear Physics Needs A multi-project => multi-design => multi-requirements ==>Scale-Free Through-Put & Ch. N° NOT USUAL! Emanuel Pollacco

6 Must Construct an Organigram Work Packages? To inscribe in?
A Discussion with conclusions before we are leave Bordeaux. Emanuel Pollacco

7 When are our target dates for the experiments?
j When are our target dates for the experiments? Availability of manpower? Budget constrains? Have numbers for Wednesday morning. Emanuel Pollacco

8 Budget Model How are we going to pay for this project?
When do you expect to have a response from the financial body? How are we to share the costs? Please prepare a slide for discussion on Wednesday morning. Emanuel Pollacco Emanuel Pollacco

9 Some suggestions Emanuel Pollacco Emanuel Pollacco

10 Other Instrumentation
Bardelli ACTAR Workshop Ljubljana 2008 To what can we apply the GET electronics apart from TPC oriented instrumentation? Complete or Partial applications? Ge (higher resolution-HiSPEC/FAIR) Si for particle ID (high sampling-GASPARD, HYDE, EXL) Bragg detectors (VAMOS/GANIL) RDT (MUSETT-VAMOS/GANIL) Is GET DAQ a possible “standard” for high data through-put for GANIL? What must we do to make it so? Emanuel Pollacco Emanuel Pollacco

11 Front End Electronics & DAC
W Detector – Electronics interface. Data Registering Amplification/Digitizers Data Concentrators Data Selection (Trigger) Compression Event Processing Event Builders Routers Data Control (Detector & Electronics) Network-Based Run Control Data Flow Control OnLine Monitoring Parameter Control Test Functions/Diagnostics Calibration Online Control Control Management I assume that physicists have thought of:- Different modes of data taking Calibration, Trigger, Detector ensemble Analysis Criteria & Specifications Resolution, dynamic range, through-put, … Emanuel Pollacco

12 Electro - mechanics Discussion Tomorrow
“Topology” of the electronics will depend significantly on the electro-mechanics layout Integrated amplification stage, with spark protection: • with 20 μm resistive layer, silicon survives breakdowns now gating grid anode wire Spark Protection Detector: Radiation environment Pre-Amp A-A ADC Discussion Tomorrow CoBo NIKEFF DAQ Emanuel Pollacco

13 What "Topology"? End CAP TPC Discussion Tomorrow A B C D
anode wire gating grid Spark Protection Spark Protection Spark Protection Spark Protection Detector: Radiation environment Discussion Tomorrow Pre-Amp A-A ADC A-A A-A : ASIC+ADC card CoBo: COmpression BOard A-A ADC A-A ADC CoBo CoBo CoBo ADC CoBo Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay DAQ DAQ DAQ DAQ Options Emanuel Pollacco A B C D

14 Need for a CONTROL Strategy
FEB FEB FEB FEB FEB FEB FEB A-A ADC CoBo TPC Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay Spark Protection Need for a CONTROL Strategy A-A ADC FPGA - Control Temperature Slow Control Relay Data Transfer Dead time etc Optic link transfer CoBo– FPGA – Memory – Optic Links Data Compression Base-line Computation Computation of time, energy and shape Choice of algorithms Temporary Storage Optic link transfer Board Cooling Trigger Options By Sector/Event Shape/Multiplicity CoBo Control DAQ Emanuel Pollacco B

15 Some work has been done. Information & Discussion needed.
Data Concentration Base Line adjustment? Zero removal? Time Calibration & Time Stamp? Charge? What is the latency for a give given FPGA for all these calculations? Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay Where shall we do the data reduction? In CoBo? Some work has been done. Information & Discussion needed. A-A 288 ch A-A 288 ch A-A 288 ch A-A 288 ch S Disc CoBo 1152 ch A Signal S Disc ADC A S Disc FPGA ADC A ADC ADC Scale-Free ? N(A-A)/channels = 1, 2, … N(A-A)/N(Cobo) = 1, 2 or … 8 N(CoBo)/N(PCI-Express) = 3, 2 or 1 PCI-EXPRESS Emanuel Pollacco

16 Possible System External & Internal Trigger Scale Free Architecture
Number of Channels Through-Put Data Treatment Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay Spark Protection Pre-Amp A-A ADC CoBo DAQ A-A** ROD** A-A* CoBo* End-Cap EVENT BUILDER ROD CoBo** 6 CoBo*** A-A*** Emanuel Pollacco

17 Do we have an agreed upon timing-diagram (at least)?
Spark Protection Pre-Amp A-A ADC CoBo DAQ A-A** ROD** A-A* CoBo* End-Cap Si EVENT BUILDER ROD CoBo** 6 Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay Do we have an agreed upon timing-diagram (at least)? It will be useful ... Emanuel Pollacco

18 A Trigger Architecture
Inspect What do we want for this? B5 B6 B7 B8 TRIGGER Logic Unit A-A 288 ch Some work has been done. Discussion needed. B0 B1 B2 B3 B4 A-A 288 ch A-A 288 ch A-A 288 ch CoBo 1152 ch S Disc A4 A S Disc S Disc A3 A S Disc A2 A S Disc A1 Inspect A1 A0 Emanuel Pollacco

19 END Emanuel Pollacco

20 How Long? How Much €? Development Production
How long for an AFTER+ - 2 FTE How long for a A-A – 2.5 FTE How long for a FEM – 2.5 FTE How long for a DCC – 4.0 FTE Total 9 FTE Production Testing  you will do it, no? Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay Emanuel Pollacco

21 ASIC-on-Pad? MAPS? DREAM-Land? 64 pads 2x2mm² 16 mm 6,400 pads
ADC 6,400 pads ADC 6,400 pads 160 mm Emanuel Pollacco

22 TPC Work to be Done. Set Task & Date. B A-A CoBo FEB FEB FEB FEB FEB
ADC CoBo TPC Emanuel Pollacco, CEA Saclay Spark Protection A-A ADC Control Temperature Slow Control Confirmation Signal Visualization Cooling Security Automat parameters A-A – AFTER + ADC + Pulser + Multiplicity … 288 ch/A-A Multiplicity sum for 1152 channels Event Pattern Board cooling Calibration Ext & Int - Pulsers Time, Energy & Shape Slow Control Dics Level Gain Shape Work to be Done. Set Task & Date. CoBo Control DAQ Emanuel Pollacco B

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Need to have slide: Need To Make Estimates of the Engineering Times involved. Need to Make Estimates of the fixed costs involved. From 1 & 2 we can obtain Price/Channel. Provide a bases for the individual demands to the different authorities. The Contribution in engineering time will be reduced from the final bill. Travel costs etc – to be paid by each laboratory. The final bill – how do we pay for it? Proportional to the number of channels? A fixed cost part + the number of channels? We pool all the money together … ? Common funding from say ANR? Need to have a kitty or money pool to perform the developments. Emanuel Pollacco

24 Drift Time for Hydrogen
Emanuel Pollacco

25 Costing Exercise Engineering Costs Fixed Costs Items Considered:-
Software & Hardware Fixed Costs Items Considered:- AGET (AFTER+) A-A (FEC+) CoBo (FEM+) Router (DCC+) Engineering costs for Industrialized Production Testing – done by the laboratory in question Facilities on card & bench test to allow this procedure AGET – not included Spark Protection A-A ADC CoBo Router Emanuel Pollacco


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