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2 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky

3 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Introduction

4 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Overview Moral & Ethical Arguments Practical Arguments Faulty Arguments

5 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Categories a) The appeal to nature b) Undesirable psychological consequences c) Undesirable social consequences d) Questionable motivations and skewed priorities e) Common argumentative fallacies

6 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

7 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance

8 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…

9 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning

10 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning  provides us with a need for morality

11 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning  provides us with a need for morality  allows for sacrifice

12 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning  provides us with a need for morality  allows for sacrifice  prevents us from being overly risk averse

13 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning  provides us with a need for morality  allows for sacrifice  prevents us from being overly risk averse  is what makes beauty exist

14 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning  provides us with a need for morality  allows for sacrifice  prevents us from being overly risk averse  is what makes beauty exist  is a vital imperfection

15 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: The Appeal to Nature Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death life extension violates nature and upsets the balance critics contend that death has value; death…  gives life meaning  provides us with a need for morality  allows for sacrifice  prevents us from being overly risk averse  is what makes beauty exist  is a vital imperfection …and what if something exists beyond this life?

16 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Psychological Consequences The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:

17 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Psychological Consequences The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives: boredom and tedium

18 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Psychological Consequences The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives: boredom and tedium ennui

19 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Psychological Consequences The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives: boredom and tedium ennui madness from repetition and predictability

20 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Psychological Consequences The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives: boredom and tedium ennui madness from repetition and predictability losing a sense of psychological continuity with oneself

21 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences

22 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices

23 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive

24 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access

25 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution

26 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution Undesirable demographic skews

27 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution Undesirable demographic skews parallel populations

28 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution Undesirable demographic skews parallel populations problem of incumbency

29 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution Undesirable demographic skews parallel populations problem of incumbency scientific and cultural stagnation

30 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution Undesirable demographic skews parallel populations problem of incumbency scientific and cultural stagnation Overpopulation, the environment and Malthusian considerations

31 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Undesirable Social Consequences Social and distributive injustices cost prohibitive unequal access unfair distribution Undesirable demographic skews parallel populations problem of incumbency scientific and cultural stagnation Overpopulation, the environment and Malthusian considerations an issue of sustainability

32 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Questionable motivations and skewed priorities Problematic motivations

33 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Questionable motivations and skewed priorities Problematic motivations “…no known social good…”

34 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Questionable motivations and skewed priorities Problematic motivations “…no known social good…” anti-social behavior

35 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Questionable motivations and skewed priorities Problematic motivations “…no known social good…” anti-social behavior individual actions are against the collective best interest

36 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Questionable motivations and skewed priorities Problematic motivations “…no known social good…” anti-social behavior individual actions are against the collective best interest more pressing concerns for society to deal with

37 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Faulty Arguments Argumentative errors and biases

38 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Faulty Arguments Argumentative errors and biases pseudoskepticism

39 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Faulty Arguments Argumentative errors and biases pseudoskepticism ad hominem

40 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Against Longevity: Faulty Arguments Argumentative errors and biases pseudoskepticism ad hominem psychological eccentricity and quirkiness

41 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Overview Primacy of moral argumentation Practical arguments are catching up On the defensive

42 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Categories a) The value of life and the undesirability of death b) The ethical and legal right to life extension c) Desirable social consequences d) Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible

43 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The value of life and the undesirability of death Life is good, death is bad

44 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The value of life and the undesirability of death Life is good, death is bad demonstrating the value of living

45 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The value of life and the undesirability of death Life is good, death is bad demonstrating the value of living ongoing personhood and the questionable de-valuation of life

46 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The value of life and the undesirability of death Life is good, death is bad demonstrating the value of living ongoing personhood and the questionable de-valuation of life maximum lifespan?

47 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The value of life and the undesirability of death Life is good, death is bad demonstrating the value of living ongoing personhood and the questionable de-valuation of life maximum lifespan? death as existential violation

48 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The value of life and the undesirability of death Life is good, death is bad demonstrating the value of living ongoing personhood and the questionable de-valuation of life maximum lifespan? death as existential violation stopping the global death counter

49 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The ethical and legal right to life extension Ethical and legal issues

50 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The ethical and legal right to life extension Ethical and legal issues pro-life ethics is sound

51 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The ethical and legal right to life extension Ethical and legal issues pro-life ethics is sound a civil rights issue

52 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The ethical and legal right to life extension Ethical and legal issues pro-life ethics is sound a civil rights issue respecting civil liberties

53 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The ethical and legal right to life extension Ethical and legal issues pro-life ethics is sound a civil rights issue respecting civil liberties

54 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: The ethical and legal right to life extension Ethical and legal issues pro-life ethics is sound a civil rights issue respecting civil liberties improving access

55 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Desirable social consequences Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…

56 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Desirable social consequences Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death… better personal accountability

57 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Desirable social consequences Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death… better personal accountability stake in the future

58 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Desirable social consequences Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death… better personal accountability stake in the future makes utilitarians happy

59 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Desirable social consequences Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death… better personal accountability stake in the future makes utilitarians happy the Longevity Dividend

60 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing….

61 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing…. life extension is in effect

62 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing…. life extension is in effect the continuation of medical sciences

63 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing…. life extension is in effect the continuation of medical sciences the continuation of the human mission

64 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing…. life extension is in effect the continuation of medical sciences the continuation of the human mission the importance of accountability

65 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing…. life extension is in effect the continuation of medical sciences the continuation of the human mission the importance of accountability the problem of prohibition

66 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky For Longevity: Managing the inevitable and working towards the feasible There’s no point in arguing…. life extension is in effect the continuation of medical sciences the continuation of the human mission the importance of accountability the problem of prohibition of feasibility and obligations

67 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Conclusion

68 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Conclusion a complex and difficult topic

69 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Conclusion a complex and difficult topic heading into uncharted waters

70 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Conclusion a complex and difficult topic heading into uncharted waters projecting fears and hopes

71 Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky Conclusion a complex and difficult topic heading into uncharted waters projecting fears and hopes trusting ourselves and our institutions

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