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2 Sustainable energy supply; Is Hydrogen an option? Myths and facts C. Daey Ouwens Eindhoven University of Technology

3 Outline Some considerations about sustainability The energy supply (efficient use, fossil, renewables, nuclear) Hydrogen an option? Other choices: “Green” liquids and gases VW scenario Conclusion

4 What is sustainable development? A development which –makes an economic development possible –has hardly any environmental effects –is socially accepted –(optimal organizational structure) (cheap, clean, social acceptable) Process of change, needs creativity Many options; difficult to make choices Central role of technology

5 Considerations Which option is sustainable ? –Solar cells ? –Hydrogen in Fuel cells in cars? –Carbon dioxide sequestration? –Bio diesel from rape seed? –Co-combustion of wood in coal power plants? –Nuclear energy??? Is sustainability possible? Yes we can choose; CO 2 free Can we “predict” future energy supply? No

6 Main lines sustainable energy In order of importance; development over time Demand side Energy efficiency ; buildings, apparatus, greenhouses Recycling of materials Use natural materials Supply side Fossil fuels: methane (Natural Gas, NG) Biomass: “green” liquids, SNG, hydrogen? Hydro power, geothermal, wind, solar energy (PV, heat)?, waves, currents, etc Fossil fuels (coal, oil): hydrogen (CO2 storage)? Nuclear energy ???

7 Hydrogen an option? Two main lines of production Biomass: hydrogen (or “green” liquids or SNG) Fossil fuels: hydrogen and CO 2 storage CO 2 sequestration ; do we accept it?? NUMBY (Electrolysis: too expensive) First conversion by gasification get syngas; CO and H 2

8 Several products from syngas 1.Hydrogen 2.Very clean liquids; Fischer-Tropsch (Shell and Sasol) based on coal and NG; (Biomass, Germany and at ECN Holland) 3.Synthetic Natural Gas (SNG) For 1: change of infrastructure For 2 and 3; holds only for biomass and NG (low emission of CO 2 ) For 2 and 3: no change in infrastructure

9 Hydrogen as a choice Hydrogen problems Production Storage Transport End-use; change in infrastructure As a consequence: expensive

10 Applications Hydrogen Hydrogen in cars - compressed, methanol, petrol, liquid? - fuel cell (weight, reliability, cooling, use at low temperature, cost)? - overall efficiency (well to wheel) Hydrogen in Natural Gas system - mix it with Natural Gas (10 %?);

11 Other choices Based on gasification Green diesel; Fischer-Tropsch (based on biomass and Narural Gas (not CO2 free) Synthetic Natural Gas (based on biomass) By fermentation Ethanol (petrol) - from food crops (sugar beet) now; woody materials in future

12 Other choices Bio diesel - from rape seed - from jatropha and pongamia (Developing Countries) Gas from anaerobic digestion In future Solar (solar cells (PV)), Wind and…. ????

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15 Conclusion Is the introduction of Hydrogen sustainable yet? (cheap, clean and social accetable) Not so sure; change in infrastructure is expensive Hydrogen from coal and oil and NG; do we accept CO 2 sequestration Hydrogen from biomass; more attractive to make green liquids (diesel and ethanol) and SNG Do we need Hydrogen for a sustainable energy supply? No Will we introduce (use) it? Maybe


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