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3. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 33 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … GREEK It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

4. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 44 Romans 14: Part II P.C. Interpretational Methodology Mark 7:19 What is the Weight of Evidence? 10 points lead to the Truth in 7:19 Mark 7 & Matthew 15 together

5. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 55 Romans 14: Part III - Spelling it Out Yeshua vs. The Purity Purists Acts 10 1Timothy 4 History of Rome Romans 14 Fun with Math Conclusions

6. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 66 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

7. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 77 What do they say…? v1 Don’t dispute about food and holydays v14 Nothing is unclean I am strong and your are weak because…

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9. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 99 Page 690 Romans 14:1 Some recent commentators have exhibited great confidence in their approach to the interpretation of this section.

10. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 10 Page 690 Romans 14:1 This we find surprising; for it seems to us to be extremely difficult to decide with certainty what exactly the problem is with which Paul is concerned in this section.

11. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 11 Page 690 Romans 14:1 Though some interpreters of the epistle seem to take it for granted that the nature of the problem is obvious, various suggestions regarding it have, as a matter of fact, been put forward;

12. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 12 Page 690 Romans 14:1 And there would seem to be at any rate six suggestions which must be considered.

13. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 13 Page 690-691 Romans 14:1 It is often assumed that the people referred to in this section as ‘weak in faith’ or simply ‘weak’ are people who are legalists…

14. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 14 Page 690-691 Romans 14:1 legalists in the sense that they think to earn a status of righteousness before God by their own works…

15. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 15 Page 690-691 Romans 14:1 and imagine that their abstention from meat and wine and observance of special days constitute a claim on God,

16. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 16 Page 690-691 Romans 14:1 people who have not yet learned to accept justification as God’s free gift.

17. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 17 Page 690-691 Romans 14:1 Thus Barrett holds that the weakness to which this passage refers ‘attests a failure to grasp the fundamental principle, which page after page of this epistle emphasizes,

18. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 18 Page 690-691 Romans 14:1 that men are justified and reconciled to God…by faith alone – or, better, by God’s own free electing grace’.

19. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 19 James 2:14-26 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? (KJV) 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man keeps on saying he has faith but keeps on not having works? Can that faith save him? (EXP)

20. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 20 James 2:14-26 WP 14 “What doth it profit” Rhetorical question “but keeps on not having works” It is the spurious claim to faith that James here condemns. “Can that faith save him?” Negative answer expected.

21. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 21 James 2:14-26 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. (KJV) 17 Even so faith, if it keeps on not having works, is dead itself. (EXP)

22. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 22 James 2:14-26 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. (KJV) 18 But someone will say, Hast thou faith? I have works also. Show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I, by my works, will show thee my faith. (EXP)

23. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 23 James 2:14-26 WP 18 “Yea, a man will say” James introduces an imaginary objector who speaks one sentence. “thou hast faith and I have works” The objector can be regarded as asking a short question: “Hast thou faith?” In that case James replies: “I have works also.”

24. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 24 James 2:14-26 WP 18 “Show me thy faith apart [ cwri.j ] from thy works”. This is the reply of James to the objector. “The point lies in “apart” [ cwri.j ], which means not “without”, but “apart from”, that is, “the works that properly belong to it and should characterize it.” (Hort) It is not faith or works, but proof of real faith (live faith vs. dead faith).

25. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 25 James 2:14-26 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

26. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 26 James 2:14-26 WP 18 James goes on with his reply…belief that God exists (there is one God), a fundamental doctrine, is not belief or trust in God. “Thou doest well”. That is good as far as it goes, which is not far. “The demons also believe.” They go that far. They never doubt the fact of God's existence.

27. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 27 James 2:14-26 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? (KJV) But dost thou wish to know? You man, you empty vessel, faith apart from works is worthless. (EXP)

28. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 28 James 2:14-26 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. (KJV) You see then how that by works a man is shown to be righteous, and not only by faith. (EXP)

29. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 29 James 2:14-26 WP 24 “Is justified” Here not “is made righteous,” but “is shown to be righteous.” James is discussing the proof of faith, not the initial act of being set right with God. “And not only by faith” This phrase clears up the meaning of James. Faith (live faith) is what we must all have (2:18), only it must show itself also in deeds as Abraham's did.

30. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 30 James 2:14-26 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (KJV) For as the body apart from breath is dead, so faith apart from works is also dead. (EXP)

31. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 31 James 2:14-26 WP 26 “Apart from the spirit” “Apart from breath” (the breath of life). It is not easy to tell when one is dead, but the absence of a sign of breath on a glass before the mouth and nose is proof of death. Startling picture of dead faith in our churches and church members with only a name to live.

32. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 32 Who was this James? Head of the Jerusalem assembly 1:1 Author of the epistle written to the 12 tribes scattered abroad, which are of the dispersion. [EXP & cont.] 1:21 …receive with meekness the implanted|inborn (put within) [ e;mfuton ] word (Torah – Jer. 31), which is able to bring about your actual salvation.

33. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 33 Who was this James? 1:22 Keep on becoming doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word only, and not a doer [no works], he is like a man who looks into a mirror. 1:24 He glances at himself, and off he goes, straightway forgetting what manner of man he was.

34. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 34 Who was this James? 1:25 But he who looks carefully into the perfect law of liberty [which is what ???], and continues therein, having become not a hearer that forgetteth, but a doer marked by works, in his doing, this man shall be blessed. Excursion to Psalms 119:43- 48 “Vav” With what is liberty associated? Torah or freedom from Torah?

35. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 35 Psalms 119:43- 48 43 Take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments. 44 So shall I keep thy Torah continually into perpetuity. 45 And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.

36. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 36 Psalms 119:43- 48 46 I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed. 47 And I will delight myself in thy commandments, which I have loved. 48 My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes.

37. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 37 Who was this James? While head of the Jerusalem assembly… He decreed the final decision in Acts 15 that the new incoming Gentiles need to adhere to the same Levitical commandments that Moses required the new incoming Gentiles back in the wilderness. He met Paul when he arrived in Jerusalem (Acts 21).

38. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 38 Who was this James? What was his lifestyle? 21:20 …James said, “Do you see, brother, how many tens of thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous for the law.

39. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 39 Who was this James? What was his lifestyle? 21:24 Take these men, and purify thyself with them, and pay their expenses, that they may shave their heads. Then, all may know that you are not teaching the Jews to commit apostasy [ avpostasi,an ] as regards the teachings of Moses; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

40. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 40 Who was this James? Conclusion on James He was the head over all the churches He set down church policy He was proud of the number of Jewish believers and their zeal for keeping Torah He counted himself in that group He invited Paul to take specific actions so that all could know once and for all if Paul should also be counted in that group

41. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 41 Who was this James? 1:25 But he who looks carefully into the perfect law of liberty [which is what ???], and continues therein, having become not a hearer that forgetteth, but a doer marked by works, in his doing, this man shall be blessed. Based on his words and his lifestyle, what is the Perfect law of Liberty?

42. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 42 The Perfect Law of Liberty If Torah is the Perfect law of Liberty, what are the “works” he refers to in the “faith apart from works” section? 1:22 His “the word inborn” statement at 1:21 speaks to “the works that properly belong to faith and should characterize it.” It is not faith or works, but proof of real faith (live faith vs. dead faith) which equals Observance of Torah from the heart.

43. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 43 Back to ICC p. 690-691 It is often assumed that the people referred to in this section as ‘weak in faith’ or simply ‘weak’ are people who are legalists in the sense that they think to earn a status of righteousness before God by their own works…

44. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 44 Back to ICC p. 690-691 …and imagine that their abstention from meat and wine and observance of special days constitute a claim on God, people who have not yet learned to accept justification as God’s free gift.

45. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 45 Back to ICC p. 690-691 Thus Barrett holds that the weakness to which this passage refers ‘attests a failure to grasp the fundamental principle, which page after page of this epistle emphasizes that men are justified and reconciled to God…by faith alone – or, better, by God’s own free electing grace’.

46. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 46 Continuing in ICC p. 694 A sixth possibility is that the weakness of the weak consisted in a continuing concern with literal obedience of the ceremonial part of the OT law. Note: Their definition of the “ceremonial part of the OT law” was the Sabbath, feast days, clean & unclean, sacrifices at the temple including discharging vows, etc.

47. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 47 Continuing in ICC p. 695 …the weak felt that they could not with a clear conscience give up the observance of such requirements of the law as the distinction between clean and unclean foods, the avoidance of blood, the keeping of the Sabbath and other special days. Who do we know is in this group? The avoidance of blood vs. Acts 15 and Concord?

48. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 48 Continuing in ICC p. 696 …the weak in faith are also characterized by a certain weakness of character, a liability to yield to social pressure and allow themselves to be blown off the course which their own faith has set them free.

49. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 49 Continuing in ICC p. 696 The attachment to the ceremonial requirements of the law (Fs, NMs, & Ss; clean and unclean, no blood, etc.) is a feeling, which, while it goes very deep, is ill-defined and difficult to defend by argument.

50. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 50 Continuing in ICC p. 696 It accords too with what is said about the grief, the spiritual ruin, to which the weak (James and other Observers of Torah) can easily be brought to. For to have a deeply-felt conviction but be unable to marshal clear-cut arguments in it’s defense is to be in very serious danger of losing one’s personal integrity.

51. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 51 Continuing in ICC p. 696 The weak were abstaining from meat and observing days because they felt sincerely, albeit mistakenly, that it was only along this particular path that they could obediently express their response of faith to God’s grace in Christ.

52. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 52 Continuing in ICC p. 696 The mention of abstinence from wine is not so easily accommodated in this framework. Perhaps the reference to abstinence from wine should be understood as hypothetical rather than as indicating an actual characteristic of the weak.

53. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 53 Conclusion in ICC p. 697 The most probable explanation of the nature of the disagreement between the weak and the strong is that, whereas the strong had recognized that, now that he (Yeshua), who is the goal and substance and innermost meaning of the OT law has come, the ceremonial part (Fs, NMs, & Ss; clean and unclean, no blood, etc.) of it no longer requires to be literally obeyed…

54. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 54 Conclusion in ICC p. 697 …[on the other hand], the weak felt strongly that a continuing concern with the literal observance of the ceremonial law was an integral element of their response of faith to Christ. What are we up against?

55. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 55 What do they say…? v1 Don’t dispute about food and holydays v14 Nothing is unclean I am strong and your are weak because you want to continue to observe God’s Righteous Standard (the Torah) [the ceremonial law] whereas I have been set free from it This is what we are up against.

56. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 56 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

57. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 57 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

58. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 58 Implications for Paul Paul & James Acts 21 Paul’s conscience Conclusion:

59. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 59 Paul & James Acts 21 Acts 21:21 They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs. [NIV]

60. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 60 Paul & James Acts 21 Acts 21:24b … and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself ALSO walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

61. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 61 Implications for Paul Paul & James Acts 21 Paul’s conscience Conclusion:

62. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 62 Paul’s Conscience Acts 23:1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day. Acts 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to always have a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.

63. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 63 Paul’s Conscience 2 Corinthians 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

64. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 64 Paul’s Conscience 1 Timothy 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience… 1 Timothy 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience… 2 Timothy 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers with pure conscience…

65. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 65 Implications for Paul Paul & James Acts 21 Paul’s conscience Conclusion:

66. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 66 Conclusions for Paul Paul is weak (observes Torah) and strong (Romans 15:1) at the same time. Paul teaches Colossae Gentiles to keep the ceremonial law Paul supports James, the elders, the other apostles, the whole church, and God in the blood restriction (Acts 15) Paul: A Middle of the Road Christian.

67. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 67 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

68. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 68 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

69. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 69 What does the Doctor say? P.C.s say it’s really about food… Let’s talk about some food!

70. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 70 Dr. David Caron Professor of Biological Sciences University of Southern California The History Channel Shellfish

71. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 71 Shell Fish Filter the water of toxins including the feces of all the aquatic life. 3 types of Shell Fish Poisoning available Amnesic Shell Fish Poisoning Paralytic Shell Fish Poisoning Neurologic Shell Fish Poisoning

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73. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 73 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

74. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 74 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

75. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 75 Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … Matthew 7:9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask for bread, will he give him a stone? Matthew 7:10 Or if he ask for a fish, will he give him a serpent? Luke 11:12 Or if he shall ask for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? Romans 14:14 Or if he asks for food, will give him poison?

76. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 76 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

77. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 77 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

78. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 78 It’s all GREEK to me… Clean  -> kaqa,rtou Unclean -> avkaqa,rtou Common -> koino.n Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. Acts 10:14 o` de. Pe,troj ei=pen( Mhdamw/j( ku,rie( o[ti ouvde,pote e;fagon pa/n koino.n kai. avka,qartonÅ

79. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 79 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

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87. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 87 ohn Hus 1415

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89. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 89 John Hus 1415 Quote: “In 100 years, God will raise up a man whose calls for reform cannot be suppressed”.

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92. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 92 Thomas Linacre 1490 Quote: “Either this […] is not the gospel or we are not Christians”. Either this [GREEK NT] is not the gospel or [since we are following the Latin Vulgate NT], we are not Christians.

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128. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 128 Summary Wycliffe 1370 Linare 1490 Colet 1496 Erasmus 1521 Luther 1522 Coverdale 1535 Matthew 1535 Great 1539 Geneva 1557 Bishop 1568 KJV 1611 Rheims 1861 GNT 1966

129. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 129 Romans 14: Setting the Stage What do they say that it means? Implications for Paul What does the Doctor say? Bread|Stone & Fish|Serpent & … It’s all GREEK to me History of Scholarly Interpretation

130. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 130 Romans 14: Part II P.C. Interpretational Methodology Mark 7:19 What is the Weight of Evidence? 10 points lead to the Truth in 7:19 Mark 7 & Matthew 15 together

131. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 131September 28, 2010 http://hodsbs.org 131

132. July 2, 2011 http://hodf.org 132 But before we start The agenda and why FOT + 600 / 25% = 4Q -> The Story Law, Sabbath, Feasts, Food, Required Matt 5:17, Col 2:14, Rom 10:4, Eph 2:15 The 8 + Rom 14 Col 2:16-17, Gal 4:10 Rom 14, Matt 15, Mark 7, Acts 10, 1Tim 4 Acts 15