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1 It pays out Prize structure in MTG tournaments

2 TO

3 Questions that come to mind Is there a difference between Reg and Comp ? What’s the difference ? How far do we stretch the prizes ? What’s a nice 1 st place prize ? Do we give prizes before or after playoffs ? What should the prize structure look like ?

4 MAGIC INFRACTION PROCEDURE GUIDE 1.1. DEFINITION OF RULES ENFORCEMENT LEVEL (REL) Rules Enforcement Level is a means to communicate to the players and judges what expectations they can have of the event in terms of rigidity of rules enforcement, technically correct play, and procedures used. The REL of an event will increase based on the prizes awarded and the distance a player may be expected to travel. People who travel further are often more competitive and are likely to desire more precise adherence to rules and procedures. The REL of the event should reflect this. Regular Regular events are focused on fun and social aspects, not enforcement. Most tournaments are run at this level unless they offer sizeable prizes or invitations. Players are expected to know most of the game rules, may have heard of policy and what is “really bad”, but generally play in a fashion similar to the way he or she does at home. Players are still responsible for following the rules, but the focus is on education and sportsmanship over technically precise play. Handling infractions in these tournaments is covered by the Judging at Regular REL document. Competitive Competitive events are usually those with significant cash prizes or invitations awarded to Professional events. Players are expected to know the game’s rules—but not to a technically detailed level—and be familiar with the policies and procedures, but unintentional errors are not punished severely. These are events that protect the interests of all players by providing event integrity while also recognizing that not all players are intimately familiar with Professional-level event structure, proper procedures, and rules. Professional Professional level events offer large cash awards, prestige, and other benefits that draw players from great distances. These events hold players to a higher standard of behavior and technically correct play than Competitive events. * Disqualification

5 MAGIC: THE GATHERING® TOURNAMENT RULES 5.2 Collusion and Bribery The decision to drop, concede, or agree to an intentional draw cannot be made in exchange for or influenced by the offer of any reward or incentive. Making such an offer is prohibited. Unless the player receiving such an offer calls for a judge immediately, both players will be penalized in the same manner. Players are allowed to share prizes they have not yet received in the current tournament as they wish and may agree as such before or during their match, as long as any such sharing does not occur in exchange for any game or match result or the dropping of a player from the tournament. As an exception, players in the announced last round of the single-elimination portion of a tournament may agree to divide tournament prizes as they wish. In that case, one of the players at each table must agree to drop from the tournament. Players are then awarded prizes according to their resulting ranking. The result of a match or game may not be randomly or arbitrarily determined through any means other than the normal progress of the game in play. Examples include (but are not limited to) rolling a die, flipping a coin, arm wrestling, or playing any other game. Players may not reach an agreement in conjunction with other matches. Players can make use of information regarding match or game scores of other tables. However, players are not allowed to leave their seats during their match or go to great lengths to obtain this information. Players in the single-elimination rounds of a tournament offering only cash and/or unopened product as prizes may, with the permission of the Tournament Organizer, agree to split the prizes evenly. The players may end the tournament at that point, or continue to play. All players still in the tournament must agree to the arrangement. Example: Before the semifinals of a tournament (in which first place gets 12 packs, second place gets 8 packs and 3rd and 4th get 4 packs each) begins, the players may get permission from the Tournament Organizer to end the tournament, with each player receiving 7 packs.

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11 BoosterPlayersPoints BoosterPlayersPoints Players17 Players * Paired-down always wins

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14 Prizes before/after Playoffs Before People can leave Ranking matters After Ranking is the start Playoff matters IDs

15 Prizes after Top 8

16 Moving on… Let’s make a Tournament

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18 Gettem while it lasts From top to bottom, till all boosters are gone… 18 points (6 wins) gets 10 Boosters (Can’t have 17 points) 16 points gets 8 Boosters 15 points (5 wins) gets 7 Boosters 14 points gets 5 Boosters 13 points gets 4 Boosters 12 points (4 wins) gets the rest (if there are left)

19 BoostersPointsNameRank 816Ben Zaken, Aviad1 413Lotan, Raz2 413Ben Ner, Amir3 413Guterman, Dean4 413Orel, Eyal5 312Simchi, Omri6 312Ayalon, Guy7 312Mandelboim, Ido8 11Danieli, Niv9 11Amiaz, Rom10 11Kaplun, Daniel11 10Arroyo, Oran12 9Havron, Boaz13 9Faran, Ido14 9Hackmey, Daniel15 9Cohen, Elnathan16 9Etinzon, Nadav17

20 Gettem while it lasts Pros: People know the prize structure in advance. Usually works well. Saves us calculations during the event.

21 Gettem while it lasts Cons: Requires us to decide the number of rounds in advance/have plans for different number of rounds. Might require adjustment. 12 points might get more prizes than Prizes might run down very fast:

22 BoostersPointsNameRank 18Ben Zaken, Aviad1 15Lotan, Raz2 15Ben Ner, Amir3 15Guterman, Dean4 15Orel, Eyal5 12Simchi, Omri6 12Ayalon, Guy7 12Mandelboim, Ido8 12Danieli, Niv9 12Amiaz, Rom10 12Kaplun, Daniel11 12Arroyo, Oran12 9Havron, Boaz13 9Faran, Ido14 9Hackmey, Daniel15 9Cohen, Elnathan16 9Etinzon, Nadav17

23 BoostersPointsNameRank 1018Ben Zaken, Aviad1 715Lotan, Raz2 715Ben Ner, Amir3 715Guterman, Dean4 215Orel, Eyal5 12Simchi, Omri6 12Ayalon, Guy7 12Mandelboim, Ido8 12Danieli, Niv9 12Amiaz, Rom10 12Kaplun, Daniel11 12Arroyo, Oran12 9Havron, Boaz13 9Faran, Ido14 9Hackmey, Daniel15 9Cohen, Elnathan16 9Etinzon, Nadav17

24 BoostersPointsNameRank 1018Ben Zaken, Aviad1 615Lotan, Raz2 615Ben Ner, Amir3 615Guterman, Dean4 515Orel, Eyal5 12Simchi, Omri6 12Ayalon, Guy7 12Mandelboim, Ido8 12Danieli, Niv9 12Amiaz, Rom10 12Kaplun, Daniel11 12Arroyo, Oran12 9Havron, Boaz13 9Faran, Ido14 9Hackmey, Daniel15 9Cohen, Elnathan16 9Etinzon, Nadav17

25 1Point=X Boosters =265 Points 265 Points = 33 Boosters 1 Point = 33/265 Boosters = Boosters At least 9 points for a booster ( 9 Points = 1.12 Boosters)

26 BoostersPointsNameRank 116Ben Zaken, Aviad1 113Lotan, Raz2 113Ben Ner, Amir3 113Guterman, Dean4 113Orel, Eyal5 112Simchi, Omri6 112Ayalon, Guy7 112Mandelboim, Ido8 111Danieli, Niv9 111Amiaz, Rom10 111Kaplun, Daniel11 110Arroyo, Oran12 19Havron, Boaz13 19Faran, Ido14 19Hackmey, Daniel15 19Cohen, Elnathan16 19Etinzon, Nadav17 16 remaining boosters

27 1Point=X Boosters =192 Points 192 Points = 33 Boosters 1 Point = 33/192 Boosters = 0.17 Boosters 9 Points = 1.54 Boosters (Rounded down = 1 Booster)

28 1Point=X Boosters =147 Points 147 Points = 28 Boosters 1 Point = 28/147 Boosters = 0.19 Boosters 10 Points = 1.9 Boosters (Rounded down = 1 Booster)

29 1Point=X Boosters =137 Points 137 Points = 27 Boosters 1 Point = 27/137 Boosters = Boosters 11 Points = 2.16 Boosters (Rounded down = 2 Booster)

30 17 out of 33 BoostersPointsNameRank 716Ben Zaken, Aviad1 213Lotan, Raz2 213Ben Ner, Amir3 213Guterman, Dean4 213Orel, Eyal5 212Simchi, Omri6 212Ayalon, Guy7 212Mandelboim, Ido8 211Danieli, Niv9 211Amiaz, Rom10 211Kaplun, Daniel11 110Arroyo, Oran12 19Havron, Boaz13 19Faran, Ido14 19Hackmey, Daniel15 19Cohen, Elnathan16 19Etinzon, Nadav17

31 Lets try 12 out of 33 BoostersPointsNameRank 716Ben Zaken, Aviad1 313Lotan, Raz2 313Ben Ner, Amir3 313Guterman, Dean4 313Orel, Eyal5 212Simchi, Omri6 212Ayalon, Guy7 212Mandelboim, Ido8 211Danieli, Niv9 211Amiaz, Rom10 211Kaplun, Daniel11 210Arroyo, Oran12

32 What about just the Top 8? BoostersPointsNameRank 816Ben Zaken, Aviad1 413Lotan, Raz2 413Ben Ner, Amir3 413Guterman, Dean4 413Orel, Eyal5 312Simchi, Omri6 312Ayalon, Guy7 312Mandelboim, Ido8

33 1Point=X Boosters Pros Fair (Prizes according to points). Cons Can only be done at the end of the event. Long and Tedious.

34 Linear Standing Rank Boosters Sum of Boosters

35 Linear Standing Sum of boosters in known Number of players Eligible of prizes is decided The payout “calculates” itself easily!

36 Linear Standing Rank Y Sum of Boosters Area = Base * Height * 1/2 Boosters = Rank * Prize * 1/2 33 = 11 * Prize * ½ 66 = 11 * Prize Prize = 6 =6

37 Linear Standing Y Sum of Boosters (27) 27 = 10 * Prize * ½ 54 = 10 * Prize Prize = 5.4 ((Rounded down Rank 6

38 Linear Standing Y Sum of Boosters Y=6 Y=5.4 Y=4.8 Y=4.5 Y=4 Y=3.3 Y=2.8 Y=2 Y= Rank

39 Linear for top 10 BoostersPointsNameRank 616Ben Zaken, Aviad1 513Lotan, Raz2 413Ben Ner, Amir3 413Guterman, Dean4 413Orel, Eyal5 312Simchi, Omri6 212Ayalon, Guy7 212Mandelboim, Ido8 211Danieli, Niv9 111Amiaz, Rom10

40 Linear Standing Elegant. Easy and fast to calculate. Can be calculated at the start of the event. Less fair (same points get different prizes, or different points get the same prizes).

41 Escalating Standing The golden ratio φ = “The number of boosters for each rank is 1.61 times bigger than the last” E.g.: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 …

42 Escalating Standing Sum of Boosters (1.618^ #last – 1) * Prize (#last) = Prize #8 = 33 / (1.618^8 – 1)*1.618 = 33 / (46.97 – 1)*1.618 = 33 / =

43 Escalating Standing # # * 1.61 = 0.71 #60.71 * 1.61 = 1.16 #51.16 * 1.61 = #41.88 * 1.61 = 3.04 #33.04 * 1.61 = 4.91 #24.91 * 1.61 = 7.96 #17.96 * 1.61 = = 32.97

44 Ta-Dam! BoostersPointsNameRank 1216Ben Zaken, Aviad1 713Lotan, Raz2 413Ben Ner, Amir3 313Guterman, Dean4 113Orel, Eyal5 112Simchi, Omri6 012Ayalon, Guy7 012Mandelboim, Ido8 5 remaining boosters

45 Ta-Dam! BoostersPointsNameRank 1316Ben Zaken, Aviad1 713Lotan, Raz2 513Ben Ner, Amir3 313Guterman, Dean4 213Orel, Eyal5 112Simchi, Omri6 112Ayalon, Guy7 112Mandelboim, Ido8

46 In summary (Top 8) Escalating LinearBoosters per points GettemAfter playoffs PointsNameRank Ben Zaken, Aviad Lotan, Raz Ben Ner, Amir Guterman, Dean Orel, Eyal Simchi, Omri Ayalon, Guy Mandelboim, Ido8

47 What answers did we get? Is there a difference between Reg and Comp ? What’s the difference ? How far do we stretch the prizes ? What’s a nice 1 st place prize ? Do we give prizes before or after playoffs ? What should the prize structure look like ?


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