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1 Amsterdam, September 27, 2014.The end of timePage: 1 Hajnal Andréka and István Németi Defining time and space experimentally.

2 Amsterdam, September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 2 a tangible mathematical model for relationist view of Mach and Leibniz: rich theorypoor theory Interpretation in the sense of math logic Timeless theoryTheory of time emergence

3 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 3 Signaling Theory SigTh Language: James Ax’s paper “The elementary foundations of spacetime”, Foundations of Physics 8 (1978), Experimenters Signals Send Receive

4 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 4 SigTh: Axioms all formulas valid in the intended model: Experimenters: straight lines of slope < 1 in R 4 Signals: finite segments of lines of slope 1 in R 4 Sends: starting point of segment lies on line Receives: end point of segment lies on line Sends(e,s) s e’ e Receives(e’,s)

5 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 5

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7 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 7 No clocksNo meter rods

8 Amsterdam, September 27, 2014.The end of timePage: 8

9 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 9 Special Relativity SpecRel Language: Mathematical world Real numbers Bodies: Observers, photons Coordinatizing World-view relation Physical world W(o,b,t,x,y,z)

10 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 10 SpecRel: Four axioms Photon Axiom: the world-lines of photons are exactly the straight lines of slope 1, in each worldview Event Axiom: all observers coordinatize the same physical reality Self Axiom: the owner of a reference frame sits tight at the origin Number Axiom: the structure of our numbers forms a real closed field

11 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 11 Thm: SpecRel can be interpreted in SigTh. Moreover, they are definitionally equivalent theories. On the proof: Comparing theories: dynamics of changing vocabularies, our paper in Johan’s Outstanding Logician Volume. Key point of interpretation is algorithm for setting up coordinate systems in terms of signaling.

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13 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 13 e e’ e e’’ s s’ s’’ s’ s’’

14 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 14 Desargue’s theorem e e’

15 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 15

16 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 16 Order of events Equi-duration of time-lapses Addition Multiplication.

17 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 17 Physical world Experi- menters signals Mathematical world real numbers Defining new universes, new entities in many-sorted logic. Preprint, Andréka, H., Madarász J., Németi, I.

18 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 18 Logic and relativity (in the light of definability theory). Madarász J., PhD Dissertation, ELTE Budapest, Physical world experi- men- ters signals Mathematical world real numbers Spacetime: Minkowski geometry Time? Space?

19 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 19 Theories of the known, which are described by different physical ideas may be equivalent in all their predictions and are hence scientifically indistinguishable. However, they are not psychologically identical when trying to move from that base into the unknown. For different views suggest different kinds of modifications which might be made and hence are not equivalent in the hypotheses one generates from them in one’s attempt to understand what is not yet understood. I, therefore, think that a good theoretical physicist today might find it useful to have a wide range of physical viewpoints and mathematical expressions of the same theory (for example, of quantum electrodynamics) available to him. … there is always a range of applications and problems in this realm for which the special viewpoint gives one a special power and clarity of thought, which is valuable in itself.

20 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: General relativistic spacetime of static black hole -- Spacetime of rotating black hole -- undirected signals for EPR, faster-than-light experimenters

21 September 27, 2014.The End of TimePage: 21 OF TIME as a primitive notion


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