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1 Have the BONES OF JESUS really been discovered? (Click on each page with your “mouse cursor” to change to the next page) This Presentation was researched and prepared by Pastor Carl Gallups, HHBC Feel FREE to share this presentation with others!

2 * Mysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and MaryMysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and Mary By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem (The U.K. Telegraph ) 25/02/2007 *The Stone Box - Did An Ossuary Once Contain The Bones Of Jesus' Brother?The Stone Box - Did An Ossuary Once Contain The Bones Of Jesus' Brother? (CBS NEWS) March 27, 2005 * Archaeologists, Scholars Dispute Jesus documentaryArchaeologists, Scholars Dispute Jesus documentary POSTED: 9:27 a.m. EST, February 27, 2007 (CNN) * Jesus Family Tomb Believed FoundJesus Family Tomb Believed Found Jennifer Viegas, (Discovery News) - Feb. 25, 2007 * Digging up the bones of Jesus?Digging up the bones of Jesus? By Marshall Thompson The Associated Press The Seattle Times * Jesus' Brother's "Bone Box" Closer to Being AuthenticatedJesus' Brother's "Bone Box" Closer to Being Authenticated Hillary Mayell for National Geographic News April 18, 2003 * Jesus Box - Is a Fake, Israeli Experts RuleJesus Box - Is a Fake, Israeli Experts Rule Hillary Mayell for National Geographic News June 18, 2003 *Bones of Jesus Found – Canadian Documentary ClaimsBones of Jesus Found – Canadian Documentary Claims (CBS NEWS) *A Great Story But NonsenseA Great Story But Nonsense Jerusalem Post SECULAR RESOURCES USED FOR THIS RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION This same list, along with several EXCELLENT REBUTTAL RESOURCES - appears again at the end of the presentation.

3 'Jesus Tomb' Headlines of New Scientific Evidence Surrounding Jesus' Family Burial Spot Are Sensationalist, Says Biblical Archaeology Expert READ THE ARTICLE HERE: evidence-surrounding-jesus-family-burial-spot-are-sensationalist-says-biblical- archaeology-expert /#JrxprQSyV8o3EgHz.99 evidence-surrounding-jesus-family-burial-spot-are-sensationalist-says-biblical- archaeology-expert /#JrxprQSyV8o3EgHz.99 April 9, 2015 ONE OF LATEST ARTICLES DEBUNKING THIS CLAIM

4 1 Corinthians 15:17-19 (NIV) 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.

5 Jesus Family Tomb Believed Found Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL Feb. 25, 2007 — New scientific evidence, including DNA analysis conducted at one of the world's foremost molecular genetics laboratories, as well as studies by leading scholars, suggests a 2,000-year-old Jerusalem tomb could have once held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth and his family. The findings also suggest that Jesus and Mary Magdalene might have produced a son named Judah. The DNA findings, alongside statistical conclusions made about the artifacts — originally excavated in 1980 — open a potentially significant chapter in Biblical archaeological history. A documentary presenting the evidence, "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," will premiere on the Discovery Channel on March 4 at 9 p.m. ET/PT. The documentary comes from executive producer James Cameron (Titanic) and director Simcha Jacobovici. (An Israeli born Canadian film director.)

6 SIMPLIFIED TIMELINE OF EVENTS This whole controversy is strangely and coincidently connected to the controversial and proven “fraud” – the “Bones of James” box Jerusalem suburb of Talpiyot discovery of an ancient Ossuary. Experts from the Israeli Antiquities Authority excavated the site some time after, finding the 10 limestone boxes inside. 6 of the 10 possibly have names inscribed that are also mentioned in the Bible … Jesus son of Joseph, Mary, Jose, Matthew, Mariamne e Mara (Magdalene?) And “Judah Son of Jesus”... (It is well documented that at least 3 other sites have been found with a “Jesus” and “countless” sites with Mary and Joseph! A fact completely ignored by the filmmakers!)

7 SIMPLIFIED TIMELINE OF EVENTS The BBC first broke the story that these boxes MIGHT contain the names of the Biblical Jesus' family and even Jesus himself. The story quickly loses steam. The “evidence” is so unremarkable that an apartment complex was built on top of the tomb!

8 2002 – An ossuary box shows up supposedly with the inscription – “James... son of Joseph... brother of Jesus” on the Israeli Antiquities Market. The man who owns the shop says he's had it since the 1970's (10 years before the Talpiyot discovery). (See this article from the Toronto Star for verification of this fact.)this article He said he bought it from an Arab antiquities dealer... This reported “new discovery” goes worldwide and is carried by all the major news media outlets, National Geographic and the Discovery Channel. It is called the “James Ossuary” and supposedly presents the first “physical” evidence for the life of Jesus. The words “brother of Jesus” – subsequently are proven to be a hoax by the Israeli Antiquities Authorities. (The “anti-historical Jesus” crowd is thrilled!) The Israeli authorities later arrest the dealer, (Dec. 2004) Obed Golan, with 3 other men for fraud after they attempt to scam the Israeli National Museum for $4 million, claiming that they have a genuine remnant of the Temple of King Solomon. When the authorities raid his business they discover a “factory of fraud” and claim that the man has made millions over the years with his antiquities “scams.” This is all heavily reported and documented by CBS 60 Minutes, National Geographic and several world-renowned newspapers.

9 RECENTLY - (last couple of years) James Cameron (Director of The Titanic) and Simcha Jacobovici begin working on the “film” (The Lost Tomb of Jesus) on the subject of the original 1980 ossuary find. They got permission to break through an apartment floor to re-enter the tomb. They collect “samples” (DNA and patina – the 2,000 year old residue coating the boxes) from within the tomb. DNA samples are from the Jesus and Mary (Magdalene?) ossuaries. The DNA tests showed the remains in the Jesus ossuary were not linked to the remains in the Mary (Magdalene?) ossuary through their maternal sides. Tombs from that time usually contained blood relatives and spouses, leading the filmmakers to make the jump that Jesus and Mary (Magdalene?) were a couple and that they had a child! The filmmakers said testing is continuing to determine whether the two were related through their paternal side. (Remember Dan Brown and the DaVinci Codes?) The filmmakers tested the patina from the two boxes. They claim the samples from the Talpiyot ossuaries matched the patina of the controversial James ossuary, first found around (Update: On the night the show aired, Ted Koppel produced a letter from the head of the Crime Lab that did the analysis. He declared that he could NOT say that the patina was a MATCH and that he never made that claim…only the filmmakers did!) The filmmakers speculate that the James box is a “missing box” from the tomb. (YET THE JAMES BOX is a proven fraud!)

10 FEBRUARY James Cameron and The Discovery Channel THE LOST TOMB OF JESUS It is carried by the major news networks as though it is a BRAND NEW DISCOVERY and completely "scientifically documented" replete with “DNA” and “statistical” evidence. WHEN, IN FACT...it has been known about, scrutinized by experts, disputed and shrouded in fraud and felony arrests for over 25 years. It is an OLD piece of sloppy speculation dug up, enhanced, added to and rehashed just in time for RESURRECTION SUNDAY CELEBRATION … what a coincidence.

11 THE FILM’S 4 BIGGEST CLAIMS DEBUNKED 1. That the Mariamne in the tomb is Mary Magdalene. This LEAP is made from the fact that in one single FOURTH CENTURY “Gnostic” writing - written 300 years AFTER Jesus (Acts of Phillip) …there is a Mariamne mentioned as “Mary Magdalene.” However NONE of the FIRST century writings (the FOUR GOSPELS) written during the lifetime of the eyewitnesses and from where the filmmakers draw their other conclusions about the family of Jesus …EVER refer to Mary Magdalene as Mariamne! To equate the Mariamne in the tomb with the Mary Magdalene of the Bible is absolute intellectual dishonesty and a cosmic leap of “faith!” On top of all this, the box simply reads “Mariamne e Mara” – it is ancient Greek and is properly translated - “Mary also known as Martha.” It does not read Mary Magdalene nor do these words alone connect to ANY ancient literature as Mary Magdalene…it simply says “Mary also known as Martha.” – That’s it! 2.Then DNA “evidence” proves that Jesus and Mary (Magdalene) were married. All it proves is that these two boxes were not related on the maternal side…PERIOD! It says nothing about the paternal side nor if she was related by DNA to any other box in the tomb! AGAIN…another cosmic leap of faith! Note: why couldn’t she have been married to the “Matthew” or the “Jose” in the tomb. What if she was the “daughter” of one of these…we simply do not know ANY of this!

12 THE FILM’S 4 BIGGEST CLAIMS DEBUNKED 3.The “James Box” is a missing box and one of Jesus’ missing brothers. * The James box is a PROVEN FRAUD! * It was found 10 years BEFORE these boxes and the Talpyiot tomb were even discovered! * It does not make up for the fact that the MATTHEW and the JUDAH boxes have no scriptural references whatever to being Jesus’ brothers or relatives! * There IS NO MISSING BOX!…. SEE JERUSALEM POST ARTICLE NEXT SLIDE

13 Kloner: A great story, but nonsense By DAVID HOROVITZ Bar-Ilan University Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who oversaw the archeological work at the Talpiot tomb when it was discovered during construction in What do you make of the assertion that Jesus and his family were buried there? It makes a great story for a TV film. But it's completely impossible. It's nonsense. There is no likelihood that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb. They were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle class family from the 1st century CE. But there is apparently such a coincidence of related names. The name "Jesus son of Joseph" has been found on three or four ossuaries. These are common names. There were huge headlines in the 1940s surrounding another Jesus ossuary, cited as the first evidence of Christianity. There was another Jesus tomb. Months later it was dismissed. Give me scientific evidence, and I'll grapple with it. But this is manufactured. What of the assertion that the 10th ossuary disappeared from your care and may be none other than the "James" ossuary? Nothing has disappeared. The 10th ossuary was on my list. The measurements were not the same (as the James ossuary). It was plain (it had no inscription). We had no room under our roofs for all the ossuaries, so unmarked ones were sometimes kept in the courtyard (of the Rockefeller Museum).

14 THE FILM’S 4 BIGGEST CLAIMS DEBUNKED 4.The Film claims that the statistical “evidence” puts the probabilities of this being Jesus’ family tomb at an “unarguable” level. (600 to 1) But…when these FACTS are accounted for - THAT… * We have NO EVIDENCE WHATEVER that Mariamne e Mara is MARY MAGDALENE. * Matthew and Judah are not listed as relatives of Jesus anywhere in literature – yet they are in the tomb as well. (conveniently ignored by the filmmakers) * Since Jose is a known abbreviation for Joseph – then the “Jose box” is probably Joseph and NOT a separate box containing Jesus’ “brother”. (This possibility was ALSO conveniently ignored by the filmmakers.) When the VERY SAME same statistical analysis used by the filmmakers is used on these adjusted FACTS - we conclude: That the statistical chance the Talpyiot Tomb is the THE tomb of Jesus of Nazareth falls to ONLY.19 to 1. In other words, there is a greater chance that the Talpyiot tomb ISN'T the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth than it is. SEE:

15 From THE LOST TOMB website…this is THEIR “evidence” of how the 6 ossuaries are related. Note – they add “James” – even though it is a fake and was NEVER in the tomb! They also add Simon, Miriam, Judas and Salome to the family tree although these boxes are not even in the tomb! They ASSUME that a “Joseph” (who’s box is supposedly missing from the tomb) was married to Maria and that the Jesus was married to Mariamne…and that Mariamne was Mary Magdalene and that they had a child named Judah. From these fabrications and assumptions they get their 600 to 1 odds that this is the Tomb of Jesus of Nazareth! ONLY A FOOL could believe this!

16 This is what we KNOW from the EVIDENCE in the tomb… 1.A man named Joseph had a son named Jesus 2.A man named Jesus had a son named Judah 3.There are 3 other boxes with inscriptions on them (Mary, Mariamne, Matthew) that we have no clue how they are related to one another! 4. There are 4 other boxes with no inscriptions on them. We have no clue who they could be. THAT’S IT! A FAR CRY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE MOVIE REPRESENTS! The family that is ACTUALLY in the tomb cannot be the family of Jesus of Nazareth – when just the FACTS as we KNOW them are examined.

17 Here is another way of stating ALL that we KNOW from the evidence in the tomb. There were 10 people put in that tomb (10 boxes) 4 of them are nameless – We don’t have a CLUE who they may be. 6 of them have inscriptions – 5 in ancient Aramaic and 1 in ancient Greek. One says – Jesus son of Joseph Another says - Judah son of Jesus ( These 2 boxes are connected (by the inscriptions) as possibly being related. These are the ONLY familial ties that we can possibly conclude from what we actually SEE in the tomb! That’s it! There are no physical evidence links between ANY of the other 8 boxes – except for the fact that these kinds of tombs usually held members of the same family. DNA evidence shows that 2 of the boxes are NOT related. We have no DNA evidence from ANY of the other boxes…according to the filmmakers.) There is another that says Maria – Maria was THE most popular name for girls at this time. There is a box that says Matthew – Jesus has no family member named Matthew. There is another box that says Jose – Jose is a Hebrew abbreviation for Joseph. There is a box that says Mariamne e Mara - it is ancient Greek and reads “Mary also known as Martha.” It does not read Mary Magdalene nor do these words alone connect to ANY ancient literature as Mary Magdalene…it simply says “Mary also known as Martha.” – That’s it! It is an interesting archeological find – but bears no resemblance whatsoever to the family structure of Jesus of Nazareth as portrayed in ALL the existing first century documents about his life! SEE THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THE “SPECULATIONS” MADE BY THE FILM…

18 Here are the SPECULATIONS made by the filmmakers. 1. All 10 boxes HAVE to be of one family. (This may be true…but we don’t KNOW this.) 2.The Jose box is Jesus’ brother. But, it may well be his father (Joseph). 3.The Matthew box is a “relative” of the Mary box. There is no evidence whatsoever for this. 4.The Mariamne e Mara box is Mary Magdalene. A HUGE leap of faith and speculation but an extremely important one to the filmmakers. They admit in their own film that without this “connection” their “statistical analysis” falls way short of anything unusual. The problem is that there is no connection whatsoever. Nowhere in ANY ancient literature is there a “Mariamne also called Martha” who is also called Mary Magdalene…IT DOES NOT EXIST…PERIOD! 5.The Judah box is the child of Jesus and Mariamne. There is no evidence whatsoever for this speculation. The Judah box says – son of Jesus…that is it! The obvious DNA test would have been this one…but, strangely, the filmmakers never attempted this test! 6.There is a “missing box” – which just happens to be (so say the filmmakers) the controversial “James Box” - The owner of that box was arrested for a fraud. The trial is underway in Israel now. The Archeologist in charge of the Jesus Tomb is on record saying that there was no missing box and that the James Box was never a part of this find. (See slide 12 of this presentation) 7. The filmmakers began the movie SPECULATING that the disciples stole the body of Jesus and hid it. This is a 2000 year old speculation that has been disproved time and again by all manner of historical documentation and reasonable logic. 8. The filmmakers end the movie having built a straw-house case that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married, had a child and all these people are buried in the same tomb in Jerusalem. (Remember the Da Vinci Codes? – THEY said that Mary Magdalene died and was buried in France! So…which is it? )

19 1 Tim 3:16-4:2 (The words in RED are added for explanation) Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He (Jesus) appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, (resurrected) was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory. (ascended into heaven without leaving a box of bones behind!) The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith (this above understanding of a resurrected Jesus) and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. (NIV)

20 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 (NIV) 1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.

21 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 (NIV) 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men. 20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

22 Ten Reasons Why The Jesus Tomb Claim is Bogus Leading Scholars Say Discovery Channel 'Documentary' Makesfor Good TV, Bad History and Bad Science Contacts: See List Below MEDIA ADVISORY, Feb. 26 /Christian Newswire/ -- The claim of James Cameron and the Discovery Channel that a tomb contains the bones of Jesus is bogus, said leading Biblical and archeological scholars today.Christian Newswire "Unfortunately, this is a story full of holes, conjectures and problems," said Dr. Ben Witherington, author of What Have They Done With Jesus? and New Testament professor at Asbury Theological Seminary. "It will make good TV and involves a bad critical reading of history. Basically, this is old news with a new interpretation. We have known about this tomb since it was discovered in There are all sorts of reasons to see this as much ado about nothing much." CONTINUED NEXT SLIDE…

23 Ten Reasons Why The Jesus Tomb Claim is Bogus 1.There is no DNA evidence that this is the historical Jesus of Nazareth 2.The statistical analysis is untrustworthy 3.The name "Jesus" was a popular name in the first century, appearing in 98 other tombs and on 21 other ossuaries 4.There is no historical evidence that Jesus was ever married or had a child 5.The earliest followers of Jesus never called him "Jesus, son of Joseph" 6.It is highly unlikely that Joseph, who died earlier in Galilee, was buried in Jerusalem, since the historical record connects him only to Nazareth or Bethlehem 7.The Talpiot tomb and ossuaries are such that they would have belonged to a rich family, which does not match the historical record for Jesus 8.Fourth-century church historian Eusebius makes quite clear that the body of James, the brother of Jesus, was buried alone near the temple mount and that his tomb was visited in the early centuries, making very unlikely that the Talpiot tomb was Jesus' "family tomb" 9.The two Mary ossuaries do not mention anyone from Migdal, but simply has the name Mary, one of the most common of all ancient Jewish female names 10.By all ancient accounts, the tomb of Jesus was empty, making it highly unlikely that it was moved to another tomb, decayed for one year's time, and then the bones put in an ossuary "In light of all the incredible number of problems with the recent claim that Jesus' grave has been found, the time-honored, multi-faceted evidence for the bodily resurrection of Jesus is more convincing than ever," said Dr. Gary Habermas, an expert on the resurrection of Jesus and author of The Case for the Resurrection. "Even the early opponents of the Christian message acknowledged that Jesus' tomb was empty. And the evidence for Jesus' bodily resurrection appearances has never been refuted."

24 EXCELLENT “REBUTTAL” SITES THAT YOU MUST LOOK AT! 1.THE JESUS FAMILY TOMB: FACT OR FICTION? More controversial than The Da Vinci Code? Click here Click here 2. Rebuttal to the claims of the Lost Tomb of Jesus. 3.Have they found Jesus? - The New York Sun March 2 – 2007 Click HereClick Here 4. More ifs and maybes than fact in “Lost Tomb” March 1, 2007 Chicago Tribune Click HereClick Here

25 'Jesus Tomb' Headlines of New Scientific Evidence Surrounding Jesus' Family Burial Spot Are Sensationalist, Says Biblical Archaeology Expert READ THE ARTICLE HERE: evidence-surrounding-jesus-family-burial-spot-are-sensationalist-says-biblical- archaeology-expert /#JrxprQSyV8o3EgHz.99 evidence-surrounding-jesus-family-burial-spot-are-sensationalist-says-biblical- archaeology-expert /#JrxprQSyV8o3EgHz.99 April 9, 2015 ONE OF LATEST ARTICLES DEBUNKING THIS CLAIM

26 * Mysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and MaryMysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and Mary By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem (The U.K. Telegraph ) 25/02/2007 *The Stone Box - Did An Ossuary Once Contain The Bones Of Jesus' Brother?The Stone Box - Did An Ossuary Once Contain The Bones Of Jesus' Brother? (CBS NEWS) March 27, 2005 * Archaeologists, Scholars Dispute Jesus documentaryArchaeologists, Scholars Dispute Jesus documentary POSTED: 9:27 a.m. EST, February 27, 2007 (CNN) * Jesus Family Tomb Believed FoundJesus Family Tomb Believed Found Jennifer Viegas, (Discovery News) - Feb. 25, 2007 * Digging up the bones of Jesus?Digging up the bones of Jesus? By Marshall Thompson The Associated Press The Seattle Times * Jesus' Brother's "Bone Box" Closer to Being AuthenticatedJesus' Brother's "Bone Box" Closer to Being Authenticated Hillary Mayell for National Geographic News April 18, 2003 * Jesus Box - Is a Fake, Israeli Experts RuleJesus Box - Is a Fake, Israeli Experts Rule Hillary Mayell for National Geographic News June 18, 2003 *Bones of Jesus Found – Canadian Documentary ClaimsBones of Jesus Found – Canadian Documentary Claims (CBS NEWS) *A Great Story But NonsenseA Great Story But Nonsense Jerusalem Post SECULAR RESOURCES USED FOR THIS RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION Back to HHBC HOME PAGE


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