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1 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye The Catcher in the Rye Pages

2 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Carl Luce The immaturity of Holden “Same old Caulfield. When are you going to grow up?”(144) “Your mind is immature.” (147) –Carl seems to be insulting Holden, or at least criticizing him. –Does Holden view this as an insult or a criticism?

3 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Holden’s Volume “Not so loud, for God’s sake, Caulfield. If you can’t manage to keep your voice down, let’s drop the whole” (147)

4 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Holden’s Volume Holden does the same thing while talking to Sally. His voice gets louder and louder Meaning? Out of control?

5 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Psychoanalysis Luce believes a psychoanalyst would be able to help Holden “For one thing, he’d help you to recognize the patterns of your mind.” (148)

6 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Pretends He Has Been Shot “I didn’t want anybody to know I was even wounded. I was concealing the fact that I was a wounded …” (150) Deeper meaning? What type of wound is Holden really talking about?

7 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Odd behavior? Holden drenches his hair in ice cold water and sits in the bathroom while the water soaks his clothes.

8 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Holden Cries “When I finally got down off the radiator and went out to the hat- check room, I was crying and all. I don’t know why, but I was. I guess it was because I was feeling so damn depressed and lonesome.” (153) What causes Holden to cry?

9 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye The Graveyard “All the visitors could get in their cars and turn on their radios and all and then go someplace nice for dinner—everybody except Allie. I couldn’t stand it. I know it’s only his body and all that’s in the cemetery, and his soul’s in Heaven and all that crap, but I couldn’t stand it anyway. I just wish he wasn’t there.” ( )

10 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye The Sleeping Phoebe “It’s funny. You take adults, they look lousy when they’re asleep and they have their mouths way open, but kids don’t. Kids look all right. They can even have spit all over the pillow and they still look all right.” (159) Kids and adults are placed in the exact same situation. –Kids look good. –Adults look bad.

11 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Phoebe and Curtis Weintraub Phoebe writes on Curtis’ windbreaker. “That isn’t nice. What are you—a child, for God’s sake?” (164) Yes, Phoebe is a child. Holden considers Phoebe’s rude action to be a childish action.

12 Geschke/English IV The Catcher in the Rye Phoebe and Curtis Weintraub Odd, considering Holden has always viewed childish actions as positive. Extremism Are all adults (experience) bad? –No Are all kids (innocence) good? –No


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