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1 APEGGA Assistant Director of Registration Getting Licensed as a Professional Engineer, Geologist, or Geophysicist with APEGGAPARK POWELL, P.Eng.APEGGA Assistant Director of RegistrationThe Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists of Alberta
2 Focus – helping you understand how to become licensed with APEGGA AGENDAOverview of the Canadian engineering and geoscience licensing systemIntroduction to APEGGARegistration with APEGGA – process, procedure, formsQuestions and answersFocus – helping you understand how to become licensed with APEGGA
4 For Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists Licensure in CanadaFor Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists
5 The Canadian SystemIn Canada engineering and geoscience are regulated professionsNo one can practice engineering or geoscience without being licensed – “RIGHT TO PRACTICE”No one can call themselves and engineer or geoscientist without being licensed – “RIGHT TO TITLE”The licensing system was developed to ensure that only qualified and capable individuals are allowed to practice in the professions.
6 The Canadian SystemIn Canada the engineering and geoscience professions are regulated provincially.There is a regulatory body in each province and territory.There is separate and unique legislation in each province/territory.The professions are self regulated and self governing.There is no federal regulatory body.
7 PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC IS PARAMOUNT The Canadian SystemIn Alberta APEGGA has been given the authority and responsibility to regulate the professions of engineering, geology and geophysics.APEGGA is the only body in Alberta or Canada that has the authority to issue a license to practice engineering, geology or geophysics.PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC IS PARAMOUNT
8 The Canadian SystemBeing licensed in any one province does not give you the right to practice in any other province.You must be licensed in each province that you practice in.You can be licensed in all provinces/territories if necessary.Most common is licensure in 2 or 3 provinces where work is being performed.
9 The Canadian SystemIn order to obtain a license in Alberta you will need to apply to APEGGA.In order to obtain a license in another province you will need to apply to the association representing that province/territory.Caution: Each province has slightly different requirements.
10 Engineers CanadaEngineers Canada – formerly CCPE – Canadian Council of Professional Engineers.Engineers Canada is not a regulatory body and has no jurisdiction and no authority.Engineers Canada was created by the 12 provincial regulatory associations to act as a resource and assist in standardizing requirements across Canada.
11 Engineers Canada Initial/Informal Assessment (IA) An academic assessment for immigration purposesA positive IA assessment meant that the person was suitable for immigration. It does not mean that the person was fully qualified for licensure in any Canadian jurisdiction.It has no bearing on APEGGA’s evaluation of qualifications for licensure.
12 Engineers Canada EIEAP – Replaced the IA program. Not an assessment of academic qualifications for licensure in Canada.Assessment for immigration purposes to help people to make informed choices when applying for entrance to Canada.
13 Geoscientists CanadaGeoscientists Canada (formerly Canadian Council of Professional Geoscientists) is not a regulatory body and has no jurisdiction and no authority.Geoscientists Canada was created by the 12 provincial regulatory associations to act as a resource and assist in standardizing requirements across Canada.
14 Academic AssessmentsAPEGGAs Board of Examiners is the only body under the EGGP Act that has the authority to evaluate qualifications for licensure.Evaluations done by other bodies have no bearing on whether a person meets the qualifications for licensure with APEGGA.CCPE IA or EIEAPIQASWES
15 Summary – the Canadian System Regulated ProfessionProvincial JurisdictionMust be licensed in each provinceAPEGGA in Alberta
17 APEGGA – Who and What are We? Created in 1920 by the Alberta GovernmentCreated to regulate the practice of engineering, geology and geophysics in Alberta.Governed by the Engineering, Geological and Geophysical Act of Alberta (EGGP).Primary role is to ensure the protection of the public by ensuring that professional members are qualified, capable and practice competently and ethically.
18 APEGGA – Who and What are We? Currently over 59,000 members.Over 6000 applications for licensure were received in 2010.Of those applications approximately one-third (2000) were from foreign trained graduates in all three professions.APEGGA has offices in Calgary and Edmonton with approximately 70 staff overall.
19 APEGGA – Who and What are We? Registration – evaluates qualifications for licensure.Discipline – monitors members to ensure they are practicing skillfully, ethically and professionally.Investigation – works in coordination with discipline to investigate complaints against members.Compliance – policing non-licensed individuals or businesses that are practicing the professions or using a professional designation.
21 Five criteria for Licensure AcademicsRequire original transcriptsExperienceRequire Work Experience RecordsReferences for all work to be countedCharacterFrom references and self declarationEnglish LanguageTOEFL or Handwritten letterProfessional PracticeNPPE
22 Professional Licensure Professional Engineer, Geologist or GeophysicistCanadian Citizen or Permanent ResidentMust meet the FIVE CRITERIAForeign LicenseeNot a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident
23 Professional Licensure Member In TrainingEngineer in Training – EITGeologist in Training – Geol.ITGeophysicist in Training – Geoph.ITMust satisfy only TWO CRITERIAAcademicsGood CharacterNote: Experience is not reviewed or considered.
24 Professional Licensure Professional Licensee.Minimum academics required are two years of post secondary education acceptable to the Board of Examiners.Six years of experience related to the profession.Assigned a specific Defined Scope of Practice.License to practice independently within that scope of practice.Has the same duties, obligations and responsibilities as a professional member.
25 Professional Licensure Provisional Licensee.Granted to foreign trained individuals who meet all of the requirements for membership except the one year Canadian experience.A designation that can show potential employers that APEGGA has qualified your credentials and only the one year of Canadian experience is required before full licensure.
26 Board of Examiners Executive Board of Examiners Determines whether applicants meet the requirements for registration20 Academic Examiners20 Experience Examiners3 Public MembersMeets 11 times per year(once per month except July)Full Board of ExaminersDeals with policy issues and appealsIncludes the executive Board plus 3 public members and 3 Members at Large.
27 Registration Processing. All documents received File sent to Academic examiner - recommendationFile sent to experience examiner – recommendationFile to Board of ExaminersTimes vary based onthe number of applicationsTime to receive documents – translations, referencesComplications with an application
29 Academic Requirements(Engineering) -How Does APEGGA Evaluate These? CEAB- Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board (Canadian engineering programs)MRA (Mutual Recognition Agreements) with US, UK, Ireland, Australia, NZ, HK, South Africa France Japan and SingaporeFDL (Foreign Degree List) – undergraduate degrees in engineeringNon-FDL - undergraduate degrees in engineering not found in one of the three categories aboveNon-Engineering Degrees – eg. NAIT/SAIT technology diploma, Math degree, Physics degree
30 Academic Requirements -Starting Point Evaluations for Engineering only CEAB-0 exams-0 examsMRAProbably 0 examsProbably 0 examsFDL-FE Exam-FE ExamNon-FDL-FE Exam-FE ExamNon-degreeUp to 24 exams(course-by-course)Up to 24 exams(course-by-course)
31 FE Confirmatory Exam -Why is it Assigned? Confirm the quality and understanding of your undergraduate engineering degreeThe assumption is you have an undergraduate degree in engineering. If you don’t have this you will be assigned exams (up to 24) on a course-by-course basisCovers broad range of material already taken in your degreeMust write exam, can not take university course equivalent instead
32 Fundamentals of Engineering Exam Administered by the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES).8 hours long, problem solving type of exam.4 hour morning session - general - all disciplines.4 hour afternoon session – choice of specific discipline or general engineering.70% required for a pass.2 exam sessions per yearApril/May and October/NovemberInformation at
33 Geoscience Confirmatory Exams Since there is no accreditation anywhere in the world for geology or geophysics education a three exam confirmatory assessment is given to foreign trained graduates.A course by course gap assessment is done for those graduates from institutions in North America.Geoscientists Canada maintain a national educational knowledge base of required courses that satisfies the educational requirements for licensure in Canada.
34 Course-by-Course Exams Assigned to fill academic deficiencies not to confirm an undergraduate engineering degreeCan either write APEGGA exams or take approved university course equivalents
35 APEGGA Technical Exams 3 hours long, problem solving type of examstechnical exams in your engineering disciplineat a level taken by Canadian engineering students in their undergraduate degreeprepared by professors at the U of Calgary and U of Alberta that teach those subjects2 exam sessions per yearApril/May and October/November
36 Waiving FE Exam Waive Exams? Masters or PhD CEAB or MRA institution Same or closely relateddiscipline-technical in nature (containingsignificant engineering designand analysis)-course work must be complete
38 Experience: Quantity 4 years required once academically qualified At least one year equivalent North American engineering experience – in most cases this means one year Canadian engineering experienceMust be Referenced
39 Experience: Quality - the 5 Elements 1. Application of Technical Theory2. Practical Experience3. Development of Management Skills4. Development of Communication Skills5. Development of the Understanding of Societal Implications
40 Experience - QualityThe Board of Examiners places more emphasis on the first two elements than on the last 3 elementsThe Board wants to see evidence of direct engineering experienceUnderstanding of first principlesProblem solvingRefer to “Experience Requirements for Licensure- A Guideline” for more detailed information
41 Levels Of ExperienceTechnologist Level - technician or technologist levelcapped at 12 months maximumProfessional Level - professional level- typically 36 months required- minimum 24 months required if experience credit given for post-graduate degree
42 Construction Engineering & Management This type of work must have the following attributes to be acceptable for full credit.Has full knowledge of the project and liaises with the project owner. Responsible for planning, implementing and finalizing projects. Ensures timeliness, cost, quality and safety. Includes risk assessment, project scope and deliverables, scheduling, site inspections, procurement, resource management, managing people and environmental considerations.Application of theory must be present.Minimum 1 year of theory along with 3 years Construction E & MCan be factored if there is no evidence of the application of theory in the work..
43 Supply Chain Management Includes purchasing, contract administration, quality control and inspectionGenerally little evidence of the application of theoryFactoring is to start at 0.25 and can be raised by the examiner if there is better evidence of the application of theoryMust have a minimum of two years of the application of theory in your discipline and the rest in this field factored at 25%
44 Project/Cost Controls Engineering Includes cost estimating, cost tracking, planning, scheduling, change management and management progress reportingMinimum of 2 years of application of theory with the remaining project/cost controls engineering experience to be factored at 0.25Factoring is to start at 0.25 and can be raised by the examiner if there is better evidence of the application of theory
45 Sales Engineering A salesperson with technical knowledge. Has technical knowledge about the product and service being sold.Uses this knowledge to determine a client’s needsSees a project through from the first contact with the buyer, through to completionIdentifies technical issues and solves problems.Can be factored if there is no evidence of the application of theory in the work
46 Waiving Exams Based on Experience Waive Exams?Experience RequiredAt least 10 years for FDL degrees, geology and geophysics degreesAt least 12 years for non-FDL degreesOverseas experience will be counted if referencedMust be solid engineering level workIncreasing technical competence and levels of responsibilityMust be referenced
47 ExperienceIn all of the cases above the burden is on the applicant to demonstrate the application of theory in their experience.
48 One Year Equivalent North American Engineering Experience 1 year Canadian experienceWhy?What?-engineering level-under supervision and controlof a P.Eng.-P.Eng supervisor will berequired to supply a ReferenceQuestionnaire-Codes and standards-climate conditions-culture-ethics-business practices-work environment
49 One Year Equivalent North American Experience Must gain this experience working under the supervision and control of a professional member.Post graduate experience for a completed Masters or PhD does not satisfy the one year equivalent North American experience requirement.Acceptable experience can be obtained in a university setting but it must be outside the Masters or PhD program.
50 Description of Work Experience Must use the prescribed Work Experience Record form – no other form is acceptableWork Experience Summary – single pageWork Experience Record Details – one page for each job or positionRequire detailed chronological information on job positions, titles, job descriptions, assignments, and duties and responsibilities with emphasis on the engineering content of the work experienceEvidence of Increasing Technical Competency and Levels of Responsibility
51 Description of Work Experience The experience record must focus on the application of engineering or geoscience principles.Detail the actual duties that you performedFocus on the 5 quality elements of experience
52 References -Who Can Be a Reference? Reference must have first-hand personal knowledge of your work experienceReferences should be from engineers or geoscientists – supervisors or clientsPreferred references are from Professional Members in supervisory rolesIf Reference Questionnaire is completed in a language other than English, APEGGA will have it translated at our expense
53 References -How Many are Needed? Minimum of 3 references but more might be requiredProvide reference names and addresses on the Work Experience Record.KEY- need references to cover the entire work historyTIP: If you want the Board to consider waiving exams based on 10 years of experience we will need references to cover at least 10 years of experienceeg if you had 6 jobs over 10 years we will need at least 6 references
54 Discuss registration requirements with your Supervisor to ensure you are getting the right type of training and experience for registrationMost Supervisors know they will be asked to be a Reference but it is a good idea to confirm this with them nowContact references ahead of time to advise them they will be receiving Reference Questionnaire forms from APEGGA and ask them to complete and submit those forms to APEGGA as quickly as possible
55 Waiving Examinations -Based on Experience If you want the Board to consider waiving exams based on experience you should apply for P.Eng or FLIC, not EIT.This is because experience is not a requirement for EIT status and the Board does not evaluate experience for EIT applicants.
56 Reconsiderations & Appeals If you think that there has been information missed or not reviewed you can request a Reconsideration of a Board decisionMust provide new or additional information within 30 days of receipt of your letter.$150 reconsideration feeIf the Reconsideration is denied you can request an Appeal to the Full Board from an unsuccessful ReconsiderationMust provide new or additional information within 30 days of receipt of your letter$150 fee
57 English Language Competency (ELC) TOEFLHandwritten LetterandCanadian P.Eng. ReferencesOR-600 on paper test-250 on computerTest-100 on internet test-letter explaining why you areCompetent in the English language-Canadian P.Eng references alsocomment on your ability tocommunicate in English
59 Professional Practice Examination (PPE) All applicants must write PPETests applicants’ knowledgeof law, ethics, and professionalism
60 – Purchase through APEGGA office or borrow one from a friend. Professional Practice Exam - ContentProfessionalismProfessional PracticeRegulatory Authority RequirementsLaw and Legal ConceptsThe EGGP ActStudy Kit - $155– Purchase through APEGGA office or borrow one from a friend.
61 Professional Practice Examination -Exam Type and Format 100 question, multiple choice2 hours, closed bookPass/Fail with 65% minimumGrade is FinalOffered 4 times per year, typically in up to 20+ locations around North America
62 Applying to Write PPE- EIT, Exam Candidate or Student or active applicant for P.Eng or EITApply using PPE Application Form – found in Application for Registration packagePPE fee - $140For forms and more information refer to APEGGA web-site at
63 General Information Apply using Application for Registration form can download Application documentation from APEGGA web-siteExperience Requirements for Licensure - A Guidelineon the APEGGA web-site (part of Application for Registration package)
64 Application for Registration -Documents to Complete “Application for Registration” formName and contact information of at least 3 references (more than 3 references may be required)“Request for Academic Documents” form - send it to your university not to APEGGACopy of proof of Canadian Citizenship or permanent resident statusapplication feeELC documentation at some point
65 Applicant Identification Once you have submitted your application to APEGGA you will receive a member number such asM12345Use this number for any correspondence with APEGGA.
66 Transcripts and Certificates of Graduation APEGGA must receive original transcripts and Certificates of Graduation directly from your institutionsUse the “Request for Academic Documents” form to instruct your institutions to send your transcripts and Certificates of Graduation directly to APEGGA
67 Transcripts and Certificates of Graduation - APEGGA will get them translated at APEGGA’s expenseIf APEGGA does not receive direct confirmation from your university, the Board will not waive exams based on experience and will also specify which exams you must write
68 Documentation -Summary Academics-transcripts/cert of graduationExperience recordsreferencesExperience-application form-referencesCharacterPPE- PPE examTOEFL-letter plus referencesELCOther-Can citizen/PR Card
69 Length of Time to Evaluate Applications Usually takes 6 to 12 months to complete the evaluation of an applicant’s qualificationsWill vary depending on how long it takes to receive all the required documentationMay take longer if translations required
70 Writing Exams - Guidelines Exam assessments must be started within 2 years of the Board review date.A course by course exam assessment can be satisfied by taking university level equivalents or by writing the APEGGA exams.A confirmatory assessment can only be satisfied by writing the FE exam.
71 “Eligible for Registration” - What Does This Mean? Job advertisements often indicate that an applicant for the job must be “eligible for registration” with APEGGA. What does this mean?It means different things to different employersTo some employers this might mean a person must be eligible for registration immediatelyTo other employers it might mean that they think the person has the skills & abilities to do the job and as long as the person is willing to apply to APEGGA that’s okay even if they have to write exams or meet other requirements
72 APEGGA Services & Benefits -Mentoring programs-Resume Referral Service-Insurance Program & other Member BenefitsRefer to APEGGA web-site for more info
73 APEGGA Mentoring Programs Pool A: employed membersWork related soft skillsPool B: unemployed membersJob search related skillsResume preparationInterviewingNetworkingFor more information contact: Arlene Lack.
74 APEGGA Resume Referral Service Computerized job registry systemEmployers list positions and contact informationIndividuals list 50 word descriptionsSearchable by key words, geographic areas and other variablesOver 1000 job postings this year so far
75 APEGGA Resume Referral Service Searchable by both the employers and the individualsIndividuals can search the posted jobsIndividual can contact employer directlyEmployers can search the 50 word descriptions supplied by individualsEmployer can ask APEGGA to send them the individual’s resume
76 APEGGA Resume Referral Service For more info contact:Sandy Roth atOr see the “Careers” section of our web-site
77 Mobility Must be licensed in each province in which you practice Can be registered in more than one province at the same timeInter-Association Mobility Agreements (IAMA)signed in 1999 for P.Engsigned in 2001 for P.GeoIAMA transfers – streamline the application and evaluation process
78 Contact InformationAPEGGA Web-site ‘www.apegga.org’IEG sectionApplication Forms and instructionsMark Tokarik, LL.B., P.Eng – Director of RegistrationBill Santo, P.Eng – Assistant DirectorPark Powell, P.Eng – Assistant Directoror