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1 Getting a job as an (academic) plastic surgeon Ivan Hadad, M.D.

2 Disclosures / Background Faculty at Indiana University – August 1, 2013 General surgery training at the same institution

3 Timeline Penultimate Year: – Figure out who you are (and want to be…) – Decide where you will focus your efforts – By AAPS (April), have your CV and cover letter done – Try to meet people at AAPS

4 Timeline Chief (or fellowship) year: – August and September: Send out letters and applications Set up ASPS interviews – ASPS (October): First stage interviews – November: Thank you letters and follow ups – Winter: Invited interviews at institutions – Feb/March/April: Weigh job offer(s) and decide – Spring: Accept an offer / negotiations – Paperwork (a 3-4 month process)! Get to work! (August?)

5 Location, Location, Location Narrow focus, narrowed opportunities Less jobs on the coasts Less jobs in big cities More jobs in smaller cities More jobs in the midwest But if you need to be somewhere, go there…

6 Fellowship or job? Only do a fellowship that you want to do! Don’t do a fellowship to compete for a job you don’t want Recognize that a fellowship may paint you as more specialized than you want to be… Microsurgery fellowships are the new commodity for academic plastic surgery Private practices are much more flexible

7 Fellowship or job? Only do a fellowship that you want to do! Don’t do a fellowship to compete for a job you don’t want Recognize that a fellowship may paint you as more specialized than you want to be… Microsurgery fellowships are the new commodity for academic plastic surgery Private practices are much more flexible NO ONE CARES YOU WENT TO HARVARD!

8 Curriculum Vitae Make it clear and well organized Sections should be in chronologic order Probably don’t mention anything pre-college Don’t lie! Have it looked over.

9 Curriculum Vitae Sections: – Education – Post Doctoral Training (residency & fellowship) – Honors and Distinctions – Research Experience – Research Grants – Publications – Presented Abstracts – Organizations – Volunteer History – Board Certification(s) – Medical Licensure – Personal information Country of Origin, Citizenship, Date of Birth, Birthplace, Languages Spoken

10 Cover Letters Addressed to Program’s chief Make a stock version Have a few people review it! Tailor to the program 1 st paragraph: Who you are Where you trained When you want to start 2 nd paragraph: Sell yourself Note areas of strength and interests State your career goals Mention research if relevant to career goals

11 Cover Letters 3 rd paragraph: Sell why you are interested in that program Clinicals strengths Previous encounters Location 4 th paragraph: State that you are including your CV Name your references 5 th paragraph: Thank you’s Willingness to offer more info

12 Letters of Recommendation You will be asked for these at some point Get 3 letters early Plenty of people here to choose from Get them on letterhead Get them signed Try to get a “To Whom It May Concern” version as a PDF that you can send out

13 Organization Have one folder with EVERYTHING Dropbox is great Always accessible Synced Sharable Scan all documents Include: CV’s Cover letters Letters of recommendation Spreadsheets / To do lists Image of Passport, Diplomas, Drivers License, Medical Licenses, any other applications!

14 Organization ProgramDirector / Chief / PhoneStatus U of AThree O’Mono, MD ed (8/1/12) -Rejected Super Microsurgery Clinic - Florida Adson Brown, MD App sent (9/2/12) - Await response Spreadsheet

15 Finding advertised listings (websites) – Most institutions determine their funding for new employment in September – Check all your resources q 2 -4 weeks – The ASPS website – Registration required – Job Opportunity Board – Post your CV (Useless) – Career tips

16 Finding advertised listings (websites) – The American Council of Academic Plastic Surgeons (ACAPS) – All academic listings – Focused towards more experienced surgeons – Fellowship listings

17 Finding advertised listings (websites) – Higher Education Recruitment Consortium – Very good listings

18 Finding advertised listings (websites) – Scours a number of job websites and periodically s you results – Only physician listings – Sends tailored results by region – Lots of wound care jobs Plastic Surgery News Michele Barnes & Bernie Lee

19 Finding advertised listings (websites) Note: – Listings may be sham listings Program already has an internal candidate Some H.R. protocol states that the job must be advertised publicly (“equal opportunity”)

20 Finding unadvertised jobs Low yield, but necessary effort Focus on your “must-have” job locations or interests

21 ACGME Plastic Surgery Residencies https://www.acgme.org/ads/Public/Reports/Report/1 – Search by Plastic Surgery – Gives addresses & phone numbers – Unfortunately, only lists Program Directors – So… – Go to the residency’s website – Figure out who’s the chief – Go to – Look them up – Get their & phone numbers

22 Finding unadvertised jobs Create “personalized” cover letters your CV and cover letter to the Chief or whoever makes decisions there Some people say real mail is better – I disagree Try a “follow up” message, just prior to ASPS, to ask if they would like to get together Be assertive – Not pushy! – Not pathetic!

23 ASPS Plastic Surgery: The Meatmarket PSA: Senior Residents Conference is mixed into it now Lots of speed dating Get as many interviews as possible scheduled Keep it positive This a much more adult process – There is no pimping – They won’t ask “What’s your greatest weakness?” “I care too much!”

24 ASPS Other tips: – Know their program before (have questions ready) – Take notes right after – Collect business cards – Wear a suit everyday – Be prepared to drink a lot of coffee! – Don’t ask about call (He’s lazy!) – Don’t ask about salary (He’s greedy!) – Seriously: Don’t ask about call or salary! – Don’t be hungover!

25 Visiting interviews They will pay to fly you out there Meet the partners Know who you are Know what you’d like your practice to look like Know what you bring that would be unique Know your 5 year plan Ask about they will help you grow your practice Now it’s ok to ask about call responsiblities It’s ok to ask about “areas for improvement” or “challenges” You can ask about how to achieve partnership Still don’t ask: “How much money???”

26 Job offers (Hopefully) you’ll get a call and an offer letter – Will state your salary – Various other aspects of your responsibilities and benefits – Not an exhaustive document

27 Contracts Everything is negotiable If you don’t ask, you don’t get Less flexibility with university jobs Academia doesn’t necessarily mean lower pay Don’t get hung up on what the salary is, but rather what it could be Don’t try to “nickle and dime” your future employer! This is a massive topic!

28 Contracts “A contract is only as good as the person who offered it.”

29 Summary The job hunt is nothing like the Match Start early Be organized Be assertive Have faculty mentors to coach you along the way Talk with your fellow job hunters Hit up your contacts and prior staff! – YOUR relationships are the key

30 GOOD LUCK!


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