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1 Tim Lai Points to be Made Photo © Kevin Marshall

2  Total beginners  Basic BAEC knowledge  Advanced knowledge

3 Hopefully everyone learns something today!

4  Explanation of Tier Point system  Collecting Tier Points  Use of Avios on British Airways  Other uses ◦ LHR-DME in First Class ◦ CX around Asia

5 “Give a man a fish, feed him for a day… Teach the man to fish, feed him for a lifetime” You get some fish, but also learn how to do it!

6  Advanced Tier Point running (20 mins)  Taxes, Fees and Surcharges (15 mins)  Maximum Permissible Mileage (5-10 mins)  Free form discussion (15 mins) Feel free to ask questions any time!

7  Relies on combination of “Instant Upgrade” and cheap business class fares.  ALWAYS consider auxiliary cost. ◦ Hotels/accommodation ◦ Food ◦ Opportunity cost – annual leave, time with family.  Keep referring to Flyertalk. ◦ Bit.ly/BATPruns

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9  American Airlines and US Airways  Best origins are big cities that aren’t hubs, but close to one. ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]  Best destinations to look for… Anywhere with bad safety!: ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]

10  If East to West coast (and v.v.), ignore flights stopping in DFW.  VERY short Minimum Connection Time ◦ AA does not have to give you First Class if re- booked. ◦ You can request fares and Tier Points from original routing though!

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13  American Airlines main hubs ◦ DFW, LAX, JFK, MIA, ORD

14  US Airways main hubs ◦ CLT, PHX, PHL

15  Buy during Premium Fare sales ex-Europe (Easily TP for around € ). ◦ Ask Kevin about his DUB-LCY-SNN-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX- JFK-LCY-DUB adventure. 1340TP for £1368 = £1.02/TP.  Find your itinerary on ITA Matrix and book by phone. You’ll go crazy booking it online.  Watch out for AA/BA/IB/AY/US codeshares on domestic USA flights. VERY important to put it into AA/US marketed flight.

16  Prices more stable and easier to find than Americas  Cathay Pacific ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]  Malaysia Airlines – Kuala Lumpur ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]

17  CX/MH business class service is FAR superior to AA/US.  Each destination in Asia is interesting in its own right. Can’t say the same about USA.

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19  Most TP Runs in Europe go through LGW, and often through JER. ◦ JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER ◦ JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER ◦ AMS-LGW-AMS  Airports like JER, AMS and FRA do not separate inbound and outbound passengers at gate. Very easy turnaround

20  Not as lucrative as America, Asia and Europe.  British Airways 5 th Freedom  DOH – BAH in First class  Qatar Airways ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ]

21  Next topic…

22  Anywhere between 5-99% of the airfare!  Most people call YQ or YR “Fuel Surcharge”, but it’s called “Carrier Imposed Fee” by BA.  You have to pay them if redeeming Avios. ◦ Some notable exceptions…

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24  Intra-Americas journeys ◦ New York to Toronto ◦ Any flight under 650 miles.  Intra-Asia ◦ HKG to most of Far East Asia is max 10,000 Avios each way in Y.  Domestic Japan ◦ No Taxes!!!  Free positioning flight to Jersey, UK ◦ No Air Passenger Duty payable ex-JER  Aer Lingus and Air Berlin for TATL ◦ AB is £1 in tax!  Air Berlin for Germany -> Abu Dhabi

25  Raised by price of fuel, hardly ever lowered.  Still some regions or cities where YQ is low

26 No specific pattern, but in general…  Europe North America ◦ AB and EI ◦ IB no surcharge! Transfer BA Avios to IB.  Europe South America ◦ IB no surcharge! Transfer BA Avios to IB.  North America South America ◦ No YQ

27  Europe Asia MH, CX, QR usually lower than BA  Intra - Middle East ◦ Nearly all routes low YQ (under €100 for r/t)  Europe Middle East ◦ QR and BA usually lowest

28 Next topic…

29  In a nutshell, how far you’re allowed to fly on a single ticket.  MPM exists because not everywhere has non- stop flights between 2 cities.  Easy to understand and exploit.  Good place to start “travel hacking”.

30  Economy class sales! ◦ Typically base fare is <€100. I have seen £1 before! ◦ MPM does not affect YQ, but might add extra government/airport charges. ◦ Best to do as many transfers in USA as possible. ◦ Limit EU transfers. (Taxes too high)

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33  Ticketed Point Mileage = Great Circle distance between two cities.  E.g. AMS-SFO  5473 miles

34  Maximum Permissible Mileage = TPM + 20%.  MPM of AMS-SFO = 5473 x 1.2 =  IB/BA/AA/US/AY Europe USA flights governed by MPM Rules.  Use KVS tool or Expert Flyer to find routing rules

35 MPM of AMS-SFO = 6568  MPM+5% = 6896  MPM+10% = 7225  MPM+15% = 7553  MPM+20% = 7881  MPM+25% = 8210 Just pay additional X% to the BASE FARE  E.g. if Base Fare is £50, and you fly MPM+25%, you pay an extra 0.25*£50 = £12.5

36  Total 8085 miles <1.25*MPM  Valid routing!

37 If you enjoyed the talks today, or even my blog, please consider using the affiliate links bit.ly/amexgoldnl

38  Any questions?  Feedback always welcome  Contact me any time:


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