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1 © 2011 Autodesk Topsoil, Asphalt, SubCut—One Road with Overlapping Corridors as the Answer? CI3123 Bill Neuhauser, P.E. Civil Engineer – Managed Design Inc.

2 © 2011 Autodesk Bill Neuhauser, P.E. C3D I.C.E.  Managed Design Inc. 2005-  Autodesk Reseller since 1988 (Formally Alignex Inc.)  Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin and the Dakotas  Minnesota Technical and Community College – 2002-2005  Instructor - AAS Civil Techs  Consulting firms 1990-2002  Registered Civil Engineer – P.E. (ND/MN)  CADDD Supervisor – LDT, Eagle PT, Geopak  CADDD Manager  North Dakota State University – BS Civil Engineering  AU Presenter – 4 years

3 © 2011 Autodesk Topsoil, Asphalt, SubCut—One Road with Overlapping Corridors as the Answer? CI3123 Common rural highway design requires the designer to take into account not just the placement of the new road but also all that must be removed, including topsoils, asphalt structures, SubCut (muck), etc. How can we do this? With more than one corridor! Let us think outside the box and see what we can accomplish with multiple corridors overlapping and all working together to get your complex job done. We will calculate removals and placements all at one time using multiple corridors, multiple surfaces, and multiple sample line groups. We will discuss how to account for existing Topsoil, SubCut and proposed Topsoil placement.

4 © 2011 Autodesk What are we going to cover today?! Learning Objectives:  Describe SubCut, scarify, topsoil removal and topsoil placement.  Create multiple overlapping corridors to show your existing conditions within one section view.  We will describe why multiple datum surfaces are required and why they are not possible using a standard corridor.  Adjust your Quantity Takeoff Criteria so we can also calculate both removal and placement quantities from these multiple corridors and their multiple surfaces.

5 © 2011 Autodesk Win a Civil 3D Book!!! (And a few other trinkets)  A Practical Guide to AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012  Donated by Rick Ellis Cadapult Software Solutions  Civil 3D and AutoCAD Map 3D books available at www.cadapult-software.com

6 © 2011 Autodesk ADVANCED CLASS This is one of only 5 Advanced Civil 3D classes being offered at AU! So we are going to assume everyone here knows their…….C3D…… You are here because you want to learn something “ADVANCED!”

7 © 2011 Autodesk *DISCLAIMER* What we will NOT cover in this class! *The Basics *Intermediates What we will cover! *Advanced What we might talk about…. THE “PARADIGM SHIFT” If time permits we will talk about this at the end!

8 © 2011 Autodesk What is SubCut?  The ugly stuff from 100 years ago located right below your new and very expensive road bed that needs to be removed if you want your road to last for more than 5 years!

9 © 2011 Autodesk What is SubCut? (cont’d)  SubCut is the additional material below our Roadbed that needs to be removed to give us more structure stability.  SubCut is usually paid for as a separate pay item, since this material can’t be used under the Roadway and must be discarded. There are instances where this SubCut material can be used in ditching and other non-structural fill areas.  Sometimes this SubCut material is just scarified and re- compacted by the contractor.

10 © 2011 Autodesk Why is this an issue in Civil 3D?  As of today there is no “Magic” calculate “SubCut” button in Civil 3D  SubCut requires multiple datum's to be defined within our assembly. This is not possible as of today.

11 © 2011 Autodesk What are we trying to solve today? **QUANTITIES** How much is this going to cost?

12 © 2011 Autodesk HOW? 3 - Assemblies 3 - Corridors 3 - Sample Line Groups Or what I call the 333 plan!

13 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Assemblies:  Subassembly A is the LaneOutsideSuper  Subassembly B is the StrippingTopSoil  Subassembly C is just a Generic called LinkSlopeToSurface Assembly Number one – Existing Conditions

14 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Assemblies:  Subassembly A is the LaneOutsideSuper  Subassembly B is the Generic called LinkSlopeToSurface  We will change the codes of the daylight point to “Daylight_SubCut” and links to “SubBase”. Assembly Number Two – SubCut Condition

15 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Assemblies:  Subassembly A is the LaneOutsideSuper  Subassembly B is the ShoulderExtendAll Assembly Number Three – No-SubCut Condition

16 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Assemblies:  C and D is the Generic LinkSlopeAndVerticalDeflection  E is the Generic subassembly called LinkVertical  Note the Coding of all three links. Assembly Number Three (Cont) – No-SubCut Condition

17 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Assemblies:  Subassemblies F/G are the Generic LinkWidthAndSlope  Subassemblies H/I are the Generic called LinkSlopeToSurface  Subassemblies J/K are the Generic called LinkOffsetOnSurface, *these are used to label the ROW and any necessary easements  **It needs to be noted that all top Links need to be coded “Top” and bottom Links need to be coded “Datum” and the outer Top Link end pt needs to be coded “Daylight,” while the datum outer end pt is coded “Daylight_Datum” Assembly Number Three (Cont) – No-SubCut Condition

18 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Properties  Parameters Tab  What Assemblies Used  Targets Applied  Surface and Boundaries Tab  What Surfaces Need to be Created  What Boundaries Applied

19 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Parameters  Assembly Name:  Corridor 1 – Existing Road  Targets Applied:  Surface Targets  1-EG 1 surface targets  Width/Offset Targets  LT and RT Pave survey figures  LT and RT Outside Ditch survey figures  Slope/Profile Targets  LT and RT Asphalt survey figures Corridor Number One – Existing Conditions Page one

20 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Surfaces  2-C1 – DATUM – OLD PAVEMENT:  Links Used: Datum  Overhang Correction: Bottom Links  3-C1 – DATUM – STRIPPING TPS:  Links Used: Stripping  Overhang Correction: Bottom Links Corridor Number One – Existing Conditions Page two

21 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Surfaces Boundaries  2-C1 – Datum – OLD PAVEMENT:  Boundary Link Used: Daylight-ex-asphalt  Type: Outer  3-C1 – DATUM – STRIPPING TPS:  Boundary Link Used: Daylight-ex-asphalt  Type: Hide Boundary  Boundary Used: Daylight_Strip *** or none  Type: Outer Boundary  Manually Created Surfaces:  4-C1 – COMP1 – EG WITH PAV TPS DATUM  *This is the Bottom of the Asphalt and TPS pasted on to the Existing Ground. Corridor Number One – Existing Conditions Page three

22 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Section Number One Corridor Number One – Existing Conditions Page four

23 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Parameters  Assembly Name:  SubCut  Targets Applied:  Surface Targets  4-C1 – COMP1 – EG WITH PAV TPS  Width/Offset Targets  NONE  Slope/Profile Targets  NONE Corridor Number Two– SubCut Condition Page one

24 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Surfaces  5-C2 – Btm SubBase – Daylight_SubCut:  Links Used: SubBase  Overhang Correction: Bottom Links Corridor Number Two– SubCut Condition Page two

25 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Surfaces Boundaries  5-C2 – Btm SubBase – Daylight_SubCut  Boundary Link Used: SubCut_Daylight  Type: Outer Corridor Number Two– SubCut Condition Page three  Manually Created Surfaces:  7-C2 - COMP2 - COMP1 WITH C2 Btm SubCut - ETW - C3 FILL ABOVE - CUT BELOW  *This is the Bottom of the SubCut pasted onto COMP 2 surface created with Corridor One.

26 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Section Number Two Corridor Number Two– SubCut Condition Page four

27 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Parameters  Assembly Name:  NO_SubCut  Targets Applied:  Surface Targets  7-C2 – COMP2 – COMP1 WITH Btm SubC  **Except TOP daylight Links  Width/Offset Targets  NONE - Project dependent  Slope/Profile Targets  NONE - Project dependent Corridor Number Three– No_SubCut Condition Page one

28 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Surfaces  8-C3 - FG Datum Above SubBase - C3 FILL BELOW – CUT ABOVE:  Links Used: Datum  Overhang Correction: Bottom Links  9-C3 - FG TOP:  Links Used: Top  Overhang Correction: Top Links  10-C3 – DATUM FG TPS:  Links Used: Datum  Overhang Correction: Top Links Corridor Number Three– No_SubCut Condition Page two

29 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Surfaces Boundaries  8-C3 - FG Datum Above SubBase:  Boundary Link Used: Daylight  Type: Outer  9-C3 - FG TOP:  Boundary Link Used: Daylight  Type: Outer  10-C3 – DATUM FG TPS:  Boundary Link Used: Daylight_Sub  Type: Inner Hide  Boundary Link Used: Daylight  Type: Outer  Manually Created Surfaces:  11-C3 – COMP3 – COMP1 WITH TOP  *This is the final Top surface from corridor number three pasted onto COMP1 surface. Corridor Number Three– No_SubCut Condition Page three

30 © 2011 Autodesk Multiple Corridors:  Corridor Section Number Three Corridor Number Three– No_SubCut Condition Page four

31 © 2011 Autodesk Sample Line Groups:  Three sample line groups and their corresponding data:  C1 – Existing Conditions  C2 – SubCut Only  C3 – NO SubCut

32 © 2011 Autodesk Sample Line Groups:  Three sample line groups and their corresponding data:  C1 – Existing Conditions  C2 – SubCut Only  C3 – NO SubCut  *** Note the three different types of icons: Surface, Corridor and Earthworks

33 © 2011 Autodesk Earthworks:  Topsoil Removal:  Cut:  1-EG1  3-C1 – DATUM – STRIPPING TPS  Asphalt Removal :  Cut:  1-EG1  2-C1 – DATUM – OLD PAVEMENT

34 © 2011 Autodesk Earthworks:  SubCut Excavation:  Cut:  4-C1 – COMP1 – EG WITH PAV TPS DATUM – C2 SUBCUT BELOW  5-C2 – Btm SubBase – Daylight_SubCut – C2 SUBCUT ABOVE  Common Excavation:  Cut:  7-C2 – COMP2 – COMP1 WITH C2 Btm SubCut – ETW – C3 FILL ABOVE – CUT ABOVE  8-C3 – FG Datum Above SubBase – C3 FILL BELOW CUT ABOVE  Fill:  8-C3 – FG Datum Above SubBase – C3 FILL BELOW CUT ABOVE  7-C2 – COMP2 – COMP1 WITH C2 Btm SubCut – ETW – C3 FILL ABOVE – CUT ABOVE

35 © 2011 Autodesk Earthworks:  Topsoil Placement:  Fill: (New corridor 3 surfaces created after full design)  10-C3 – DATUM FG TPS  Inner hide Boundary used is Daylight_sub  Outer Boundary is the Daylight_Datum  11-C3 – COMP3 – COMP1 WITH 9-C3

36 © 2011 Autodesk FINAL Earthworks:  All quantities in one are now included in one material list:

37 © 2011 Autodesk Things to remember!  Any surface created in Civil 3D can be sampled by a sample group and used for quantities, not just corridor surfaces!  There are times when only one Datum line will not be enough!  Corridors are just a tool for creating surfaces!  Multiple surfaces, multiple corridors and multiple sample line groups are your tools to get your job done!  If you really want to shine use conditional subassemblies where possible!

38 © 2011 Autodesk The Paradigm Shift!  I was notified about this class last week in June  First week in July we had the SHIFT!  Subassembly Composer Tool!

39 © 2011 Autodesk The Paradigm Shift!  Everything in one assembly, in one corridor, in one sample line group!  Topsoil Stripping  Asphalt Removal  SubCut Removal  Topsoil Placement  ROW and Easement Labels  Shapes for everything above!

40 © 2011 Autodesk Win a Civil 3D Book!!! (And a few other trinkets)  A Practical Guide to AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012  Donated by Rick Ellis Cadapult Software Solutions  Civil 3D and AutoCAD Map 3D books available at www.cadapult-software.com

41 © 2011 Autodesk Topsoil, Asphalt, SubCut—One Road with Overlapping Corridors as the Answer? CI3123 Bill Neuhauser, P.E. Civil Engineer – Managed Design Inc. bneuhauser@manageddesigninc.com

42 © 2011 Autodesk Autodesk, AutoCAD* [*if/when mentioned in the pertinent material, followed by an alphabetical list of all other trademarks mentioned in the material] are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product and services offerings, and specifications and pricing at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. © 2011 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved.


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